[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

[Akaduduz]

Hi Milz.
I use demonic premium warlock in arena only with the embedded combat bot.
Np till now but i want to ask:
Is enyo "better" only for arena?
Does it jukes more accurately?
Does enyo do interrupts more often?
Can you plz give me some hints what to use and why?
Thx in advance!

 

[larrylot]

Hey! Just wondering how this routine preforms in the arena? Anyone playing at higher raitings?

 

[Honorbuddyuser1]

This only shows how you didn't bother to set it up properly, or you have no gear.

I'm having trouble with knowing how to set it up properly. There is a lot to configure and I am totally clueless. I am currently just using the pve quick setup, not sure what else to do. DPS is kinda weak, especially with destruction. Any ideas or links to setup files?

 

[Millz]

Hi Milz.
I use demonic premium warlock in arena only with the embedded combat bot.
Np till now but i want to ask:
Is enyo "better" only for arena?
Does it jukes more accurately?
Does enyo do interrupts more often?
Can you plz give me some hints what to use and why?
Thx in advance!

Enyo is better than Combat Bot. Give it a try

Juking is mostly down to luck. Used to be pretty consistent in MoP, but the underlying combat log system changed in WoD which made it less reliable.

I'm having trouble with knowing how to set it up properly. There is a lot to configure and I am totally clueless. I am currently just using the pve quick setup, not sure what else to do. DPS is kinda weak, especially with destruction. Any ideas or links to setup files?

Have a try of nilrem's settings (you can obtain them via the Settings Manager in the Demonic interface). They're better tuned for raiding/PvE.

 

[Techguy1220]

Hey nilrem so starting to work on xhul and mann is coming next... 2 question, I see alot of warlocks doing afflic for xhul so would the settings you have in your download work for that since there isnt much settings to change. and 2nd question, for mannorath going demo, the previous setup you had for brf is that still viable for a demo?

 

[Millz]

New build pushed, awaiting approval;

[09/Jan/2016]
- Added delay before breaking crowd control.
- Fixed a bug where the CR would repeatedly consume food while already eating.

 

[Millz]

New build pushed, awaiting approval;

[15/Jan/2016]
- Delay before raid buff no longer pauses the bot.

 

[nilrem2004]

Hey nilrem so starting to work on xhul and mann is coming next... 2 question, I see alot of warlocks doing afflic for xhul so would the settings you have in your download work for that since there isnt much settings to change. and 2nd question, for mannorath going demo, the previous setup you had for brf is that still viable for a demo?

Affliction becomes very strong with high ilevel gear so it's viable on many fights. Settings should work for affliction. About demo, it should work but can't say for sure bcs I didn't try it.

 

[CraFtOrz]

Dear Millz,

I've been using this routine for quite some time and just came back to mythic raiding. I was doing top parses before and now it seems that my performance has lowered alot. I know that I don't have my 2 set yet and I don't have a ring as well but I've taken this into consideration. We are currently pushing mythic gorefiend and I believe the bot is having some issues.


-Only 2-3 Shadowburns on the whole fight, even with 20% cancel casting because we are 2 destruction warlocks.
-Not using havoc as much as possible with shadowburns
-Not burning down adds when in Gorefiends belly. Is it normal it is not using chaos bolts on the skeletons and only spamming incinerate?
-Casting immolate on everything, I know that it's hard to get a TTD when the adds pop up with not much health so maybe that isn't possible to solve. (I'll try doing 2 immolates instead of 3 max and see the results)

I've added the logs so you can see if there's anything wrong going on.

View attachment 5268 2016-01-14 18.39.txt

Thanks alot for your help! I know this routine is the best just want to make sure everything is perfect

 

[Techguy1220]

I have noticed that when in mythic gorefiends belly the cr doesn't target the adds down there.

 

[Millz]

Dear Millz,

I've been using this routine for quite some time and just came back to mythic raiding. I was doing top parses before and now it seems that my performance has lowered alot. I know that I don't have my 2 set yet and I don't have a ring as well but I've taken this into consideration. We are currently pushing mythic gorefiend and I believe the bot is having some issues.


-Only 2-3 Shadowburns on the whole fight, even with 20% cancel casting because we are 2 destruction warlocks.
-Not using havoc as much as possible with shadowburns
-Not burning down adds when in Gorefiends belly. Is it normal it is not using chaos bolts on the skeletons and only spamming incinerate?
-Casting immolate on everything, I know that it's hard to get a TTD when the adds pop up with not much health so maybe that isn't possible to solve. (I'll try doing 2 immolates instead of 3 max and see the results)

I've added the logs so you can see if there's anything wrong going on.

View attachment 196170

Thanks alot for your help! I know this routine is the best just want to make sure everything is perfect

Hey

There's been 225 casts of Shadowburn in that log file. With Charred Remains, it'll only cast on current target if target's time to death is < 10s. With the cancel cast shadowburn enabled, it'll cast on any unit it can with less than the specified HP % (which it appears to have been doing in that log file).

It'll use Havoc & SB where it can. Otherwise it'll use Chaos Bolt. There's a couple of occurrences where that hasn't worked correctly, but for the majority of the log it looks correct, i.e....

[SIZE=1][B][00:28:21.260 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 1] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Grim Ambusher.387F @ 22.9% - 1.3m - 10.7yds] [Id:94861] [TTD:7.2][/B]
[/SIZE][SIZE=1][00:28:21.473 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Havoc, On:Grim Ambusher.387F[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][B][00:28:21.776 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 99] [Embers: 1] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Keen-Eyed Gronnstalker.387F @ 5.6% - 307.7k - 13.4yds] [Id:94894] [TTD:1.4][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][00:28:21.986 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Shadowburn, On:Keen-Eyed Gronnstalker.387F[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][00:28:22.646 D] [Demonic ~ Debug] Targeting: Grim Ambusher.387F[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][B][00:28:22.753 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 2] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grim Ambusher.387F @ 10.5% - 581.4k - 10.7yds] [Id:94861] [TTD:3.1][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][00:28:23.002 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Shadowburn, On:Grim Ambusher.387F[/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][B][00:28:23.746 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 1] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grim Ambusher.387F @ 4.7% - 260.0k - 10.7yds] [Id:94861] [TTD:1.1][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][00:28:23.991 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Shadowburn, On:Grim Ambusher.387F[/SIZE]

Skeletons... Gorebound Constructs... It is casting the full range of abilities on these units - quick snippet below.

[SIZE=1]	Line 17587: [03:12:03.294 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Rain of Fire] [On: Gorebound Construct.637F @ 57.2% - 718.9k - 26.2yds] [Id:90508] [TTD:999][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]	Line 17591: [03:12:04.873 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 87] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Gorebound Construct.637D @ 32.4% - 407.4k - 21.3yds] [Id:90508] [TTD:33.8][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]	Line 17596: [03:12:06.130 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 98] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Immolate] [On: Gorebound Construct.637F @ 50.6% - 636.0k - 30.2yds] [Id:90508] [TTD:55][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]	Line 17601: [03:12:08.348 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 95] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Gorebound Construct.637B @ 63.4% - 797.3k - 27.7yds] [Id:90508] [TTD:999][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]	Line 17604: [03:12:09.472 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Gorebound Construct.637B @ 63.4% - 797.3k - 21.4yds] [Id:90508] [TTD:207][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]	Line 17607: [03:12:10.328 N] [Demonic] [HP: 99] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Gorebound Construct.637B @ 60.6% - 761.7k - 16.7yds] [Id:90508] [TTD:197.8][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]	Line 17609: [03:12:15.708 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Gorebound Construct.637B @ 19.2% - 240.7k - 12.6yds] [Id:90508] [TTD:2.9][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1]	Line 17612: [03:12:16.629 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Gorebound Construct.637B @ 0.8% - 9.5k - 8.6yds] [Id:90508] [TTD:1][/SIZE]

Immolate -> It'll cast this on units with a TTD (time to death) more than 6 seconds. You're correct though, sometimes it's just a case of it hasn't got an accurate enough TTD value and casts it on a unit that dies quick.

I have noticed that when in mythic gorefiends belly the cr doesn't target the adds down there.

Which units is it not targeting? It definitely targets the Gorebound Constructs (skeletons...)

 

[CraFtOrz]

Hello Millz,

Here's some feedback from your analysis of the log:

1.There's been 225 casts of Shadowburn

There's also pretty close to 20 pulls on this log (32 if I look at all the "Encounter_start"), that means around 10 shadowburns per fight. I know from outside logs that some fights had only 2 shadowburns (I've been called out). With the amount of adds, there should be more than that.

2. Gorebound Constructs... It is casting the full range of abilities on these units - quick snippet below.

Yes it is casting full range of abilities once they are out of the belly, but inside it just casts incinerate, I have to use Chaos Bolts manually. I think they are called Shadowy Constructs on the inside.
See below, casting 6x incinerate at 4 embers.

[03:50:11.250 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 83] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 79.0% - 372.4k - 24.9yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:11.290 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 83] [Embers: 4] [Hotkey] Shadowfury Target
[03:50:12.472 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 93] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 78.5% - 370.0k - 22.0yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:12.548 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Shadowfury
[03:50:13.285 D] [Demonic ~ Debug] Started moving.
[03:50:13.733 D] [Demonic ~ Debug] Stopped moving.
[03:50:13.742 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 72.4% - 341.2k - 18.4yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:15.335 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 66.6% - 313.7k - 16.9yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:15.549 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Incinerate, On:Shadowy Construct.6C19
[03:50:17.016 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 94] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 61.0% - 287.7k - 13.8yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:17.214 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Incinerate, On:Shadowy Construct.6C19
[03:50:18.661 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 88] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 49.3% - 232.4k - 11.9yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:18.851 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Incinerate, On:Shadowy Construct.6C19

Thanks.

 

[Maaadcat]

Hi

It's possible to turn off in ui the window "demonic premium" ?

Thx

 

[Millz]

Hello Millz,

Here's some feedback from your analysis of the log:

1.There's been 225 casts of Shadowburn

There's also pretty close to 20 pulls on this log (32 if I look at all the "Encounter_start"), that means around 10 shadowburns per fight. I know from outside logs that some fights had only 2 shadowburns (I've been called out). With the amount of adds, there should be more than that.

2. Gorebound Constructs... It is casting the full range of abilities on these units - quick snippet below.

Yes it is casting full range of abilities once they are out of the belly, but inside it just casts incinerate, I have to use Chaos Bolts manually. I think they are called Shadowy Constructs on the inside.
See below, casting 6x incinerate at 4 embers.

[03:50:11.250 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 83] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 79.0% - 372.4k - 24.9yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:11.290 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 83] [Embers: 4] [Hotkey] Shadowfury Target
[03:50:12.472 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 93] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 78.5% - 370.0k - 22.0yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:12.548 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Shadowfury
[03:50:13.285 D] [Demonic ~ Debug] Started moving.
[03:50:13.733 D] [Demonic ~ Debug] Stopped moving.
[03:50:13.742 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 72.4% - 341.2k - 18.4yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:15.335 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 66.6% - 313.7k - 16.9yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:15.549 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Incinerate, On:Shadowy Construct.6C19
[03:50:17.016 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 94] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 61.0% - 287.7k - 13.8yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:17.214 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Incinerate, On:Shadowy Construct.6C19
[03:50:18.661 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 88] [Embers: 4] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Shadowy Construct.6C19 @ 49.3% - 232.4k - 11.9yds] [Id:91554] [TTD:1]
[03:50:18.851 D] [Demonic ~ CL] Cast:Incinerate, On:Shadowy Construct.6C19

Thanks.

Hey

Shadowburn -> Yep, agree. I've made some changes to the code. Hopefully it will be a bit more efficient from the next build. It only shadowburn's adds when not in full AoE mode (i.e. no F&B). Just something to be aware of.

Shadowy Construct -> It's classing these units as being trivial (note the TTD:1 bit at the end of the line). This is because the unit's max HP isn't very high. The routine is expecting these to die very quick. After ~3 seconds if the unit hasn't been killed it'll start calculating it's TTD, but by this point chances are it actually is going to die within the next second. Pretty hard to get around this.

Cheers

Hi

It's possible to turn off in ui the window "demonic premium" ?

Thx

Yeah, disable on the advanced tab (overlay), and restart HB.

 

[CraFtOrz]

Hello Millz,

Thanks for the feedback.

Is there a way to force chaos bolt on low health adds?

Let's say before 40% hp even if TTD is 1? It would cast at least one chaos bolt and cancel cast for shadow burn if possible.

 

[Techguy1220]

Hello Millz,

Thanks for the feedback.

Is there a way to force chaos bolt on low health adds?

Let's say before 40% hp even if TTD is 1? It would cast at least one chaos bolt and cancel cast for shadow burn if possible.

I understand your concern with this, I am actually playing affliction for that fight and was destro. I just found a way around it being inside the belly of using like ctrl for enyo to disable the CR while inside and manually casting since your not really inside the belly for a long period of time. Then when you are broken out or come out hit your enable button for enyo (in my case ctrl) and turn it back on and go about ur business.

 

[CraFtOrz]

I know that I could go manually, I'm just trying to help maximize the bot.

Also, I'm considering using Affliction on more fights now just because it seems to be better until I have my 2 set and my ring for destruction.

 

[Millz]

Hello Millz,

Thanks for the feedback.

Is there a way to force chaos bolt on low health adds?

Let's say before 40% hp even if TTD is 1? It would cast at least one chaos bolt and cancel cast for shadow burn if possible.

Think of it as if you're grinding low level mobs (which demonic will class as trivial), you wouldn't want to cast a long chaos bolt where a quicker spell would do.

Same applies for low level instances or mobs that have low HP values but come in large waves (i.e. 100 mobs with 1k HP each... MoP instance for example - can't remember the name).

It's pretty difficult to make it apply everywhere yet still *work*.

 

[CraFtOrz]

Yes I understand, it's why I would suggest a checkbox for burn low health adds. Though I know UI changes aren't great... Oh well!

 

[Millz]

Yes I understand, it's why I would suggest a checkbox for burn low health adds. Though I know UI changes aren't great... Oh well!

What I could do is use the 'Encounter_start' event, then for instance, if we're in a mythic difficulty - don't treat any units as trivial..... Wouldn't break compatibility with other situations (questing, low mobs etc), but not sure how well that would actually work when inside the raid... In reality, there's very very few units in a mythic difficulty raid which would die in < 3 seconds from spawning.