Want to bot but feel insecure

[MisterL]

Hi all!

I want to try out botting.

I've had one account permabanned in TBC for using rude language, and since then I've been very careful not to get banned anymore on my new account.
The idea is:

I don't want to bot on my "main" account, since I don't want to risk my character (I've got arround 6 lvl 85's with a lot of glad titles etc that I don't want to lose )
So would it be possible to use some old account from TBC I have, and upgrade it to wotlk/cata, and then transfer some characters over to my new account?
If my old account (which was linked to my main account arround a year ago with RAF and has the same registered name) gets banned, would this do any harm to my main account?

Thx a lot in advance for any replies and tips,

With Kind Regards,
MisterL

 

[rogiis]

You can transfer your characters if its on the same B net account.

 

[MisterL]

If they are linked together and my bot account would get banned, would this harm my "main" account in any way then?

 

[Bammeh]

Most likely, yes.

 

[T@rget]

If they are linked together and my bot account would get banned, would this harm my "main" account in any way then?

As long as you only break World of Warcraft's EULA only that specific account will get banned afaik. If you break the Battle.net EULA the whole Battle.net account can be closed

 

[MisterL]

So the only way to avoid this is having 2 accounts with different names completely seperated from one another?

 

[seafunk]

Botting alone usually won't ban you so quickly (you'll get a few suspensions instead). If you don't bot with your main account and abstain from selling gold through the linked botting account, you should be fine. Once you go down the goldseller road though, blizzard might just ban your main account along with the botting account. Makes sense? No, but better be safe than sorry.

So the only way to avoid this is having 2 accounts with different names completely seperated from one another?

Yeah, best keep two separate accounts with the bot account on a fake name, make sure to write down all the details. Ideally you choose the name of a friend or close relative for reasons of easier restoration in some cases. But any stranger's name will usually do the trick.
TBC accounts are now less than ten Euros, including vanilla key and 1 month gametime. So upgrading an old account and buying gametime would actually be more expensive. And if you do some laid back noobish botting to level your first toon on that account, you'll usually be done within a month. Enjoy!

 

[MisterL]

As long as you only break World of Warcraft's EULA only that specific account will get banned afaik. If you break the Battle.net EULA the whole Battle.net account can be closed

Hmmm, allright, thx

Is it also possible to not have them linked, but just have it like this:
Main acc: Mister L
Bot acc: Mister L

If they see me using the same IP, same name, etc, but the accounts are NOT linked together in any way besides my name and IP, they'd only have the right to ban my bot account I think? And what would they do if I ever transfered a character among these accounts and a few days later they ban it? (From my Bot acc to Main acc)

Thx for the replies

 

[thephoenix25]

There is no guarenteed way to be sure, but imo. Fresh account, using seperate email account (make a record of any fake name address, secret question etc) not Raf'd, not on same bnet as your main and not bought with the same credit card. Use on a seperate computer for your bot, or at the very least not at the same time as your main on one computer. Don't add the bot account to your guild bank too early, and don't add bot toons as friends on you main. This way even if your main is stung, there isn't much to link your main to the bot, and you should be able to reverse any suspesion/ban. Good luck

 

[rogiis]

Use a VPN if u want to feel more secure.

 

[MisterL]

Botting alone usually won't ban you so quickly (you'll get a few suspensions instead). If you don't bot with your main account and abstain from selling gold through the linked botting account, you should be fine. Once you go down the goldseller road though, blizzard might just ban your main account along with the botting account. Makes sense? No, but better be safe than sorry.

Hmm, sounds unlogical from blizzard, but I wont be selling gold so that wont be a problem I think The only thing I'd see myself doing is sell the account with a lvl 85 pvp char or something on ebay for some cash and start over again. (Ofc I wouldn't have them linked on Battle Net then, I can always put some random keysmash in the first & last name area so I can later send in my ID if i want to change my name on the account to transfer characters).

 

[MisterL]

There is no guarenteed way to be sure, but imo. Fresh account, using seperate email account (make a record of any fake name address, secret question etc) not Raf'd, not on same bnet as your main and not bought with the same credit card. Use on a seperate computer for your bot, or at the very least not at the same time as your main on one computer. Don't add the bot account to your guild bank too early, and don't add bot toons as friends on you main. This way even if your main is stung, there isn't much to like your main to the bot, and you should be able to reverse and suspesion/ban. Good luck

If I would put in a different account name & last name, I could basically say: I share my PC with many people in my household and I wasn't aware that some-one else was botting on this computer in my home, so it's not my fault!?! ;P

 

[seafunk]

Hmmm, allright, thx

Is it also possible to not have them linked, but just have it like this:
Main acc: Mister L
Bot acc: Mister L

If they see me using the same IP, same name, etc, but the accounts are NOT linked together in any way besides my name and IP, they'd only have the right to ban my bot account I think? And what would they do if I ever transfered a character among these accounts and a few days later they ban it? (From my Bot acc to Main acc)

Thx for the replies

Blizz doesn't give a flying fuck about their rights btw. Game master enjoy being fully shielded off from the long arm of the law by blizzard and they have banned a lot of accounts unrightfully. Unless you have a lawyer and are willing to have him work for a 50 Euro account or find a really nice gm, the chances of restoration are usually very slim by ways of pointing out the unrightfulness of such a ban.


While blizzard usually doesn't ban ip/hardware id/MAC, I know of a case where that has happened. He was a semi professional gold seller though, so he had two dozens of accounts that were banned. I personally am momentarily running 21 through the same PC and haven't had such issues.

 

[seafunk]

How are you gonna make profit with selling your account? You'll be looking at:

Vanilla & TBC key: ~10 Euros
WotlK: ~16Euros
Cata: ~17 Euros
Gametime: ~19 Euros

--> 62 Euros, now add to that the HB license, the power cost, the time invested and you will have a hard time selling these for any profit at all. Please enlighten me, if anyone can prove me wrong.

 

[seafunk]

If I would put in a different account name & last name, I could basically say: I share my PC with many people in my household and I wasn't aware that some-one else was botting on this computer in my home, so it's not my fault!?! ;P

That's probably your best bet. Use a birth date close to yours, so you can say it's your younger brother or whatever. If you can write believable stories like that, you have pretty good chances of getting an account restored. I really wouldn't worry about your main account too much though as long as it isn't linked to your botting accounts. Especially not if you're doing some small time botting. Last month blizz linked 5 of my accounts to gold selling and only gave them 72h suspensions with one of them being restored within the hour after a mail.

 

[MisterL]

^_^

Vanilla - TBC 10 euro
WOTLK 16
Cata 17
So that's like 43 euro together, and playtime I can get for free basically.
So if I'd make a lvl 85 char, and sell it for 200-300 euro, it'd be a decent profit right? I hear chars can even go up to 600 EU if you find a lucky buyer (lvl 85 PvP char with full pvp gear & gladiator title).

 

[seafunk]

Free playtime? Tell me about it! If you're referring to selling gold for palytime, that's not free at all. You are still paying the exact same price. And where the heck do lvl85 toons still sell for 200-300 Euros? I thought 20-30 was more realistic these days... :/

Maybe I just don't know enough about pvp accounts there... If you're that good at it and got a system to gear them up quickly with little playtime, I say go for it! Make sure you can sell them for the pirce you listed though. Regarding the key prices, you can get them even cheaper if you buy them in bulk.

 

[MisterL]

Ye I'll 100% be able to sell the chars for minimum 300 euro each and quite possible 500 EU+ each, depends on customer.
The playtime I buy for gold, and I can make fast gold with arena boosts (arround 100k~ish gold every 1-2 hour(s)), and I pay 16k gold for 2 months playtime (got some chinese who sells for this price that I and my friends bought tons of).
I got a friend who recently sold 2 botted pvp chars that he hardly invested time in for 1200 EU, seems like so easy money lol

 

[seafunk]

Gogogo! Too bad I suck at pvp and will keep sucking at it. :/ Do you just play bg's with a pvp bot or manually pvp?

Edit: Just make sure you pay taxes on the money. Seriously.

 

[Gentoo]

^_^

Vanilla - TBC 10 euro
WOTLK 16
Cata 17
So that's like 43 euro together, and playtime I can get for free basically.
So if I'd make a lvl 85 char, and sell it for 200-300 euro, it'd be a decent profit right? I hear chars can even go up to 600 EU if you find a lucky buyer (lvl 85 PvP char with full pvp gear & gladiator title).

I just bought a cata account with 2 85's, several alt's at different level's all decked out in BOA gear. The 85's have banks full of purples..

Paid less than 100 bucks US.. I wouldn't count on making money selling toons.