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Hello, i am interested in buying this bot for my new botting rig project.



However i need some help with it ...



i wanted to ask here how many vmwares + d3 + db i can run with this setup:



Corsair Hydro Series H60 84,9 €
MSI GTX 960 2GD5T OC 193 €
Intel® Core™ i7-4790K 344 €
Sea Sonic X-Series X-650 KM3 650W ATX 2.3 124 €
Corsair Carbide Air 540 119,9 €
2x ADATA Premier Pro SP900 2,5" SSD 128 GB 129,8 €
MSI Z87-G43 91,9 €
Seagate ST2000DM001 2 TB 79,9 €
2x Crucial DIMM 16 GB DDR3-1600 Kit 215,8 €



1383,2 €



Or if this build wont even get near 20 then a suggested build would be great - my max budget is around 2000€
 
No way you can run 20 VM's on that. Each D3 instance + VM requires at least 3GB RAM to run or 4GB recommended. Now if you plan to run multiple D3 instances within the 1 VM then thats a different story
 
My D3 uses 1,2GB RAM. Demonbuddy 100-200. You will need around 1GB for the operating system. So at least 2.4GB per instance. 32/2,4 = 13
My D3 uses 300MB of GPU RAM. This card has 2GB of RAM 2000/300 = 6.
My D3 + DB uses up to 15% of CPU on a i5 2500k. This CPU is much more potent, so lets calculate with 5% per instance. 100/5 = 20
My Computer uses 20-30% GPU Load on a GTX750Ti OC. The 960 has nearly double the power. So lets calculate with 15%. 100/15 = 6

So the biggest bottleneck is the GPU.
If you upgrade to 2x GTX 960 with 4GB RAM (around 250€ each) run 12 VMs with DB.
If you get 2x GTX 970 and go to 48GB RAM you can probably use 15-20. Probably the CPU gets too weak, but you could overclock it a little.

This calculations are all dependend on how much power you lose running vmware. Im not sure if vmware can distribute all the power without losing anything. Probably not.

Why do you want to run them in different VM?

btw. I have read somewhere that you can turn the graphics of d3 completely off. I don't know if this is suitable for you, but you can save a lot of gpu/cpu/ram with this technique.
 
jotd said:
My D3 uses 1,2GB RAM. Demonbuddy 100-200. You will need around 1GB for the operating system. So at least 2.4GB per instance. 32/2,4 = 13
My D3 uses 300MB of GPU RAM. This card has 2GB of RAM 2000/300 = 6.
My D3 + DB uses up to 15% of CPU on a i5 2500k. This CPU is much more potent, so lets calculate with 5% per instance. 100/5 = 20
My Computer uses 20-30% GPU Load on a GTX750Ti OC. The 960 has nearly double the power. So lets calculate with 15%. 100/15 = 6

So the biggest bottleneck is the GPU.
If you upgrade to 2x GTX 960 with 4GB RAM (around 250€ each) run 12 VMs with DB.
If you get 2x GTX 970 and go to 48GB RAM you can probably use 15-20. Probably the CPU gets too weak, but you could overclock it a little.

This calculations are all dependend on how much power you lose running vmware. Im not sure if vmware can distribute all the power without losing anything. Probably not.

Why do you want to run them in different VM?

btw. I have read somewhere that you can turn the graphics of d3 completely off. I don't know if this is suitable for you, but you can save a lot of gpu/cpu/ram with this technique.
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Wow thank you so much for the post , finally some good intel ( I tried different boards pending for replies or nothing useful so far ).

Reason for this is that I want to bot future games as well not only diablo 3 ,and some have a client cap / different bot which needs focus on the window.

Well 20 was just a high number to ensure the comfort of being on the good side. 12 would be great too - so maybe I will go with a single 980 instead ?

(On a different board people said that AMD cards are working better with vmwares - not sure if true)
 
Sadly I can't help you with vmware. I tried to bot with vmware 2 years ago and I didn't work very well, pretty laggy. But probably they are going forward in this regard.
A GTX980 isnt really cost effective - but I don't know if vmware supports SLI. Probably not.
 
TBH you are much better off running Multiple games on the main OS than putting in a VM most games are hard to get to work on a VM, If you want it to use less resources turn the graphics and all the video settings down to nothing as it wont mater if you are botting. there are ways to get your D3 and Bot to be like 500MB total memory usage.
 
twiztidicp420 said:
TBH you are much better off running Multiple games on the main OS than putting in a VM most games are hard to get to work on a VM, If you want it to use less resources turn the graphics and all the video settings down to nothing as it wont mater if you are botting. there are ways to get your D3 and Bot to be like 500MB total memory usage.
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haku said:
Reason for this is that I want to bot future games as well not only diablo 3 ,and some have a client cap / different bot which needs focus on the window.
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Well....
 
If you read the posts here , then you would see what my goal is..

Bump , still looking for a build suggestion :(
 
haku said:
Hello, i am interested in buying this bot for my new botting rig project.



However i need some help with it ...



i wanted to ask here how many vmwares + d3 + db i can run with this setup:



Corsair Hydro Series H60 84,9 €
MSI GTX 960 2GD5T OC 193 €
Intel® Core™ i7-4790K 344 €
Sea Sonic X-Series X-650 KM3 650W ATX 2.3 124 €
Corsair Carbide Air 540 119,9 €
2x ADATA Premier Pro SP900 2,5" SSD 128 GB 129,8 €
MSI Z87-G43 91,9 €
Seagate ST2000DM001 2 TB 79,9 €
2x Crucial DIMM 16 GB DDR3-1600 Kit 215,8 €



1383,2 €



Or if this build wont even get near 20 then a suggested build would be great - my max budget is around 2000€
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Why do you want to run so many? You can't sell items. You can't make any money. You can't even transfer items between your own accounts. Items are all belong to a single account
 
you should be able to run about 12-14 instances if not using vwmare, and you will need more then 256 gb on the ssd drives for that
 
i want to unload the account on selling sites, also build should be future proof for other games.
 
1. Selling the accounts arent as easy as you think
2. VM's are a hassle now and not worth the resources

just use the full resources of your host to bot all the games you want.

I used to bot with VM's back when you could run XP guests and this was resource intensive however I could proxy or VPN my connection on each guest. I just tried again using 7 and after days of fiddling with it the VM's got tossed and all bots run on host leap's and bound's better than they ever did on a guest. 80% of mystery problems gone just by using the host.
 
jotd said:
Well....
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Well what i was saying is that most games wont run on a VM or there are issues. The only time you will have a problem not using a VM is if you get a bot that "uses" the mouse instead of memory injection.
 
twiztidicp420 said:
Well what i was saying is that most games wont run on a VM or there are issues. The only time you will have a problem not using a VM is if you get a bot that "uses" the mouse instead of memory injection.
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Yea , I want to run other bots too , and some dont have background mode. Also some games have client limits and so on.
 
haku said:
Yea , I want to run other bots too , and some dont have background mode. Also some games have client limits and so on.
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Well with your budget realistically you could do about 5 to 10 bots/vm's depending on the game and its requirments and the OS needed to run the bot and the bots requirements. To do 20 on 1 box you talking over 5000$, and dont forget if you plan on botting alot of the same game you will need to invest in VPN's so they all arent coming from the same ip.
 
okay thanks all i will just go for a build and see how many i can fit in
 
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