Upgrade pc SSD vs. Raid-0

[peteyboy23]

If you're certain it's the HDD, then why post the question? You already have your answer, so buy the SSD.

In my personal experience with SSD, it did not eliminate lag in Dalaran. That's all I'm saying.

Maybe your SSD is either faulty, or of poor quality. What are the rest of your system specs?

 

[fpsware]

you guys and your new fangled technology. i'm perfectly happy waiting on my commodore 64 and it's tape drive. now get off my lawn.

This had me pissing myself with laughter.

 

[DaSoul]

If you're certain it's the HDD, then why post the question? You already have your answer, so buy the SSD.

In my personal experience with SSD, it did not eliminate lag in Dalaran. That's all I'm saying.

Because i am not shure about how things are being loaded..comparison between large and small files. I never found benchmarks of someone playing wow in dalaran with a Raid 0 system made of 4 sata drives, the read/write speed is a lot more then a single drive but the access times are just slower then on a ssd.

I don't know what is important for fast loading dalaran for example...whether it is very short access times to the hdd or if its best to have very high read/write speeds. If i buy 4 good SATA drives i can reach same read/write speed as with a ssd (i guess) in the same price range..and with the raid build i'd even have a lot more space. Thats why i started this thread.

But the feedback seems to be definitely to buy a SSD. Any suggestions on what to buy?(space for os + wow + tools like teamspeak) What do i need at least in read/write speed? What is important to look at? Thanks for your help.

 

[Owneth]

i7 920 @ 4.0GHZ (1603 mhz ram speed)
Gold Torx Drive (SSD) 64GB I think...
12GB of Cosair DDR3 XMS
1 TB WD/Caviar Drive (black)
and a old 9800GTX (XFX) Oc'ed to 755 Core 1153 mem 1888 shader clocks

I am consistantly 100-300FPS in Dal at the well facing the horde bank with steps in sight along with the horde entry area for Inns and such (Diagnal View w/well in front of me) im @ 75+FPS and 100 in all other areas in city and 200+ at banks inside... (no vsync)

I tear through WoW like butter.

I can load over 18 WOW logged in clients at once... also from my storage drive. Takes longer than running from main drive but it loads fast and never crashes!

I really never use that many but its been tested to do so before I start getting laggy.

 

[zomgmage]

TBH.. I have a i7 quad @ 4.4ghz, 6gb ram @ 200mhz, GTX285, 4x SSD raid 0.....

And I still lag in Dal. I run Vsync so 60fps is my cap. but I drop down to 30-40ish in dal. WoW is an old game thats been patched to hell with new graphics updates and stuff.

 

[hiddenlol]

SSD's do not affect FPS.

If you want dal to load faster (Hearth there and the load screen go away quicker) get and SSD. If your a bogan who wants to drain more power from your PC and fill your case will cables then get 4 SATA drives. If you want more frames get a better graphics card.

 

[DaSoul]

SSD's do not affect FPS.

If you want dal to load faster (Hearth there and the load screen go away quicker) get and SSD. If your a bogan who wants to drain more power from your PC and fill your case will cables then get 4 SATA drives. If you want more frames get a better graphics card.

So you really want to tell me that a GTX 470 is to slow?

 

[Bioern]

so if i don't want to have max performance but max wows opened at the same time...is it better to get a ssd or a raid?

 

[mezz0]

Both are limited by your (motherboard or pcie) controller. Unless you have a hardware raid controller, go with the SSD.

fyi; current (gaming) motherboards might advertise raid, they are ALL software raid.

 

[Bioern]

Both are limited by your (motherboard or pcie) controller. Unless you have a hardware raid controller, go with the SSD.

fyi; current (gaming) motherboards might advertise raid, they are ALL software raid.

so can you tell me a good AM3 motherboard with hardware raid support?
And with the hardware raid support it would be better than the ssd in running maximum wows at the same time?
Thanks in advance

 

[j0achim]

Harddrive performance is no longer determined by the amount of megs it can tranfser, but rather IOPS. In raw performance a average SSD beat any normal HDD by 20x ~ 70x the amount of IOPS it can handle.

A high performance HDD (7200rpm) can handle abount ~90 IOPS, while a high performance SSD can handle 55000 IOPS (read) 16000 IOPS (write). In the end this is what will determine the end performance because its not "huge" files your working with but ratehr bits and bytes beeing constantly changed. (SSD example: Intel's second-generation X25-M solid-state drive)


Again as pointed out, a harddrive alone will have little effect on the FPS itself.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOPS

 

[DaSoul]

Both are limited by your (motherboard or pcie) controller. Unless you have a hardware raid controller, go with the SSD.

fyi; current (gaming) motherboards might advertise raid, they are ALL software raid.

okay and does it make any difference if i buy a pcie ssd or a sata ssd?

the pcie seems to be a lot faster..example:

OCZ RevoDrive PCIe SSD 120 GB ~ 260 ?
Transferrate:
up to 540 MB/s (read)
up to 480 MB/s (write)

OCZ ColossusLT 3,5" SSD 120 GB ~280 ?
Transferrate:
up to 260 MB/s (read)
up to 260 MB/s (write)

why is the better ssd more expensive?

 

[mezz0]

If you are serious about going the raid way, you shouldn't get it onboard. I highly doubt you will even find one onboard. (price of controller is loads more then motherboard).

Pick your slot type (PCIe or PCIx), pick the amount of SATA or SAS disks you want to add and then look up the prices of the controllers.

Mind you we are talking 600$ and up for only a controller. Then you still need to buy the disks too. But if you need the capacity and the features raid offers you can't go wrong. Personally I came back from using raids as a home user. Get your self a nice and fast 32gb or 64gb ssd for your OS and wow. Use a large older drive for 'dump storage'. You'll be happy, I guarantee.