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UPaCCBT: The BehaviourTree Ultimate Paladin Healer Custom Class

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15outland said:
anyone know when this CC will be updated so it isn't always crashing, making it quite hard, especially with arena >.<
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stormchasing is on vacation until after the new year. I am sure he will get to it shortly after that,
 
15outland said:
Ok, also, would I use the same for PVP? - focusing on the mastery?

And what do people use for the pvp settings?
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Sorry, I was talking about PVE. I don't know much about PVP (like what stat is "considered" better for PVPING) but yes haste will burn mana in PVP as well. However, PVP probably will make you cast a lot more often than PVE because you also have to dispel alot... so I guess, stack on Spirit. But I don't know about Mastery. If Mastery is a good stat for PVP, then stack on Spirit first then Mastery.
 
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JeffKing1989 said:
My healing build is Int > Mastery > Spirit > Haste - 6694 Int, 15.10 Mastery and 2695 Spirit. All unbuffed. My haste is pretty low (1281 or 10%). Glideroy said that this CC is designed for Spirit / Crit Holy Paladins, and said that Haste burns mana faster because the CC doesn't delay in healing - thus you keep casting and casting, losing mana faster. Also, don't get more than 15% crit. 15% (20%+ with raid buffs) crit is good enough for proccing Conviction almost all the time.

I've been topping healing charts ever since with my Mastery build. Slower casts but more effective heals. Since the CC reacts pretty quick, the slower casts (due to low haste) doesn't matter.

I barely OOM too. The settings I changed: Holy Light to 90%, Divine Light to 85%, Flash of Light to 40%, Infusion of Light (Divine Light) to 75%, and tank priority to 70% and 0% Multiplier. This is just the general stuff. Why higher %? Because Mastery works nicely and better with Divine Light, Flash of Light and Holy Radiance. So, use these spells more often than Holy Light - since Holy Light is an inexpensive/very little heal and the fact that you'll slow cast, it's better not to use Holy Light a lot.

Also, while you're slowly casting (again due to low haste), you're still regening mana and still giving the CC more time to decide what spell to use next. Understand what I mean?

tldr: Too much haste (1300+) you'll burn mana faster because the CC is designed for Spirit. Prioritise on Mastery and Spirit instead. Don't use more than 15% crit.
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Good tips there, Jeff :) Could you tell me if you adjusted the Holy Radiance setting at all, or is it at default?
 
@bambam922 sorry, but your log says nothing bout the dispelling / cleansing ... n urgent dispels, no dispels while noone is to heal, nothing.
I'll try to reproduce the problem when i'm doin arena matches.

Do u have a addon like skada or recount? if yes, can u please a screenshot from the dispelling stats?
I tried PVE dispelling with:
- everything disabled -> CC does not dispel - OK
- everything enabled -> CC does dispel - OK
 
@Stormchasing

The problem seems to have fixed itself.
Last night I was doing arena on Rev 249 and I watched as my toon dispelled while letting my arena partner died.
After I made the above post with my logs, I reverted back to a revision that I knew was working quite well, Rev 221.
Dispels were fixed and all that good stuff.
After you made your post asking for recount data, I updated back to Rev 249 and the dispel problem seems to be fixed.

Ill let you know if the problem arises again.
 
I had a severe problem where the CC was basically doing virtually nothing since my update to 5588. I tried deleting and redownloading the CC, no joy... and then completely deleted HB and reinstalled it as well as the CC and that worked. Back to working well. ;)

*Edit* what was strange too is that I don't ever hit the 'Update' button... I had already downloaded the update and installed it in it's own directory. I even put each class that I use in it's own directory to reduce the number of CCs that each has to compile.
 
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JeffKing1989 said:
My healing build is Int > Mastery > Spirit > Haste - 6694 Int, 15.10 Mastery and 2695 Spirit. All unbuffed. My haste is pretty low (1281 or 10%). Glideroy said that this CC is designed for Spirit / Crit Holy Paladins, and said that Haste burns mana faster because the CC doesn't delay in healing - thus you keep casting and casting, losing mana faster. Also, don't get more than 15% crit. 15% (20%+ with raid buffs) crit is good enough for proccing Conviction almost all the time.

I've been topping healing charts ever since with my Mastery build. Slower casts but more effective heals. Since the CC reacts pretty quick, the slower casts (due to low haste) doesn't matter.

I barely OOM too. The settings I changed: Holy Light to 90%, Divine Light to 85%, Flash of Light to 40%, Infusion of Light (Divine Light) to 75%, and tank priority to 70% and 0% Multiplier. This is just the general stuff. Why higher %? Because Mastery works nicely and better with Divine Light, Flash of Light and Holy Radiance. So, use these spells more often than Holy Light - since Holy Light is an inexpensive/very little heal and the fact that you'll slow cast, it's better not to use Holy Light a lot.

Also, while you're slowly casting (again due to low haste), you're still regening mana and still giving the CC more time to decide what spell to use next. Understand what I mean?

tldr: Too much haste (1300+) you'll burn mana faster because the CC is designed for Spirit. Prioritise on Mastery and Spirit instead. Don't use more than 15% crit.
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I was wondering what situations do you use this gear setup in? Are you primarily 5-mans? 10/25 Raids? Your thought are very interesting. I am going to have to give it a run in a LFR and see whats what. Thanks for the info.

*Edit- Just ran a full DS LFR and was tops in healing the whole time. I did have some mana issues during Madness. This could have been due to the other healers not pulling their weight though. Otherwise it seemed pretty good to me. Gonna try a 10 man later on.
 
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I'm using this in lazy raider for 5 man dungeons and It keeps auto selecting either greed or need and messes it up a lot. Any one know how I can turn this off? or it it a setting in lazy raider?
 
I would check to see if auto-equip or some other plugin is enabled that handles loot. Neither this CC nor Lazyraider (I believe) handles anything with regards to loot or rolls.
 
Its doesn't like to heal in 25 man raids but other then that it is a boss CC! Keep it up! :)
 
bustahwolf said:
I'm using this in lazy raider for 5 man dungeons and It keeps auto selecting either greed or need and messes it up a lot. Any one know how I can turn this off? or it it a setting in lazy raider?
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LR or this CC doesn't roll on loot, check your Plugins (Auto-Equip,Auto-Equip2, and so on)
 
Hm i really tried to find the right Settings for 25 LFR but my Pally heals like 3 Heals in one Boss fight or something i really tried to adjust settings but everything the same he Heals only 2-3 times so i don't mean it causes an error its just not good for 25 man? Itemlvl of my Pala is right now 382
Sorry for my English i suck..
 
serowix said:
Hm i really tried to find the right Settings for 25 LFR but my Pally heals like 3 Heals in one Boss fight or something i really tried to adjust settings but everything the same he Heals only 2-3 times so i don't mean it causes an error its just not good for 25 man? Itemlvl of my Pala is right now 382
Sorry for my English i suck..
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I have had no problems with 25 man's as of yet. Maybe try a fresh install of HB and this CC with no other plugins running. What kind of CPU do you have? There are a lot of decisions that have to be made very quickly with a 25 man. Maybe that is a bottleneck?
 
assassin said:
I have had no problems with 25 man's as of yet. Maybe try a fresh install of HB and this CC with no other plugins running. What kind of CPU do you have? There are a lot of decisions that have to be made very quickly with a 25 man. Maybe that is a bottleneck?
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So my CPu is Amd Phenom 2 X6 1100T not bad processor i think im just setting it wrong ..
How can i tell u whats wrong my Char has like 500k Healing done at the end of a fight and the other guys having 3Mil or more Healing done ^^
 
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