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UPaCCBT: The BehaviourTree Ultimate Paladin Healer Custom Class

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@Gilderoy

Many thanks for your advice. I have done all the reforging as you suggested (and should probably also look to replace my haste trinket too with something like Core of Ripeness)
I have made the multiplier setting and will try and get in a raid and let you know the results :). I suppose the selective healing is better for when you go up on the web in fights like beth and can't properly target those "downstairs to heal them?

Thanks
 
Gilderoy said:
@dimention: thank you, happy is working good for you :)
@Reaver8005: The CC has no way to tell if the tank teleported out of the dungeon or just teleported to the next room. the only thing you can do is "disable Beacon" (i do not remember if is available in dungeon setting) and cast beacon of light by yourself :)
@wooinau and all the discussion: That's IMVHO the wrong way of using selective healing.
You want your tank to be healed more then the other, fine, that's what "Healing tank priority" and "Multiplier" are for.
Selective healing is a big bad butcher knife while you need a sharp stiletto for the raid job most of the cases.
Try setting "Healing tank priority" to 100% and "multiplier" to 1 with selective healing OFF and see if that help.
Also this CC was programed with a Crit/Spirit set in mind, meaning all your pieces of gear should have Crit/Spirt or be reforged to have Crit/Spirit.
This is because Haste is a mana burner AND increase overhealing.
Why do not use selective healing?
Because of beacon of light. Since it copy 50% of all the healing done to anyone else on the tank every heal NOT on the tank will heal for 150%
This means that your healing meter will skyroket.
Ok, but to not let the tank die there is Healing tank priority and multiplier. with setting of 100 and 1 this means that the CC will heal someone that is not your tank only if that someone has Half or less the health percentage of your tank.
@Dubbelu: happy is working good for you :)

What this CC do best? healing 2 tank at a time.
If you are in raid and you are assigned to heal 2 tanks then select tank1 as tank in lazy raider, turn on "ignore beacon" put by hand beacon of light on tank2 put "healing tank priority" to 100 and muyltiplier to 1 and see the magic ;)
At least when I raider i used to heal like this :)

@JeffKing1989:
1: multiplier is a multiplier, multiplayer at 0 means "do nothing" :P Change multiplier to 1 and play arond with heal tank priority, try it at 100%
2: well man if your party cannot stay out of big AOE and the CC has to heal them back to 100% what to you expect? that heal witout using mana? ^___^
3: i'd try 5, do not go above 7 and remember that only work with IntellyWait and not with any other casting system
4:Spirit!! a loooooooooooong way.
Idealy you want Crit/Spirit on every piece of gear.
@15outland: you are Horde? that's just normal, man.
It target your enemy and heal your ally, no reason to target someone you need to heal, she just do this internally.
look at recount or at the log and you will see that the CC is healing your ally around you, WITHOUT targetting them.
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Thanks for clearing that up brah :D

Not sure if its CC related, but I'm having rezzing problems with this particular CC, once he dies, and doesn't res, just waits the 6 minutes and possible Deserter.. :(
 
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@wooinau: exactly or for the first Tol Barad boss when you need to heal only your side :)
Let us know how it goes!
@15outland: I have seen plenty of post regarding the not resurrecting in bg bug, I do not think is CC related..
 
Evening Gilde,

Have you looked into the problem where he uses Divine Shield when carrying flag? It has happened many, many times now and it's getting a bit frustrating. Same for my teammates :).

I left a post with 4 logs a page or two back.
 
Gilderoy said:
@Reaver8005: The CC has no way to tell if the tank teleported out of the dungeon or just teleported to the next room. the only thing you can do is "disable Beacon" (i do not remember if is available in dungeon setting) and cast beacon of light by yourself :)
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Thanks Gilderoy. Would be a "nice to have" setting in a future release, but not important right now.
 
wooinau said:
@Gilderoy

Many thanks for your advice. I have done all the reforging as you suggested (and should probably also look to replace my haste trinket too with something like Core of Ripeness)
I have made the multiplier setting and will try and get in a raid and let you know the results :). I suppose the selective healing is better for when you go up on the web in fights like beth and can't properly target those "downstairs to heal them?

Thanks

@wooinau and all the discussion: That's IMVHO the wrong way of using selective healing.
You want your tank to be healed more then the other, fine, that's what "Healing tank priority" and "Multiplier" are for.
Selective healing is a big bad butcher knife while you need a sharp stiletto for the raid job most of the cases.
Try setting "Healing tank priority" to 100% and "multiplier" to 1 with selective healing OFF and see if that help.
Also this CC was programed with a Crit/Spirit set in mind, meaning all your pieces of gear should have Crit/Spirt or be reforged to have Crit/Spirit.
This is because Haste is a mana burner AND increase overhealing.
Why do not use selective healing?
Because of beacon of light. Since it copy 50% of all the healing done to anyone else on the tank every heal NOT on the tank will heal for 150%
This means that your healing meter will skyroket.
Ok, but to not let the tank die there is Healing tank priority and multiplier. with setting of 100 and 1 this means that the CC will heal someone that is not your tank only if that someone has Half or less the health percentage of your tank.
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I agree with all of this, I however use the combat no movement bot, instead of lazyraider (always have and have never tried lazyraider, but works well enough to not try it). So I am not sure if that makes a difference or not. The talent spec on the front page is kinda bad aswell and I would stick with what you had. I never use selective healing, so that was probably your biggest problem. Because I 2 heal almost all fights, I stick the tank healing priority to 70, and that way i heal him first and heal the raid aswell. For beth you wont need to change anything, just make sure the tank your going up with or down with is your focus. The only fight i make any changes at all on is for Bael, where I make the tank healing priority to max setting and then use a macro to quickly change my focus to whomever is taking the shards. Good luck!
 
@Megser: I know, but the code is there, composite.cs lines 1439 and 1753 reads like
new Decorator(ret => (_wanna_DS && !Me.HasAura("Alliance Flag") && !Me.HasAura("Horde Flag") && Me.HealthPercent < _min_DS_hp && !GotBuff("Forbearance") && Me.Combat && IsSpellReady("Divine Shield") || ((GotBuff("Blind") || Me.Stunned || GotBuff("Polymorph")) && unitcheck(tar) && tar.HealthPercent < _min_DS_hp)),
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and
new Decorator(ret => _wanna_HoP && tar.HealthPercent < _min_HoP_hp && tar.Guid != tank.Guid && !IsTank(tar) && !tar.ActiveAuras.ContainsKey("Forbearance") && IsSpellReady("Hand of Protection") && tar.Distance < 30 && tar.InLineOfSight && (Me.Combat || tar.Combat) && !tar.HasAura("Alliance Flag") && !tar.HasAura("Horde Flag"),
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Meaning that if she cast it while carring the flag Me.HasAura (and tar.HasAura) are returning bad values
Since the flag do not give you a Buff but give you an Aura (just like Concentration aura) and the HasAura work for the proper paladin aura check I'm not sure where the error is..
@Reaver8005: agree :)
@nfantry: only think lazyraider do better than combatbot IMVHO is the tank selection. If you are happy with my code to autoselect tank based on role or from focus then stay loyal to combat bot, if you want a way to select the tank by cliking on a name from a list then go to lazyraider :)
@15outland: thank you :)
 
So rev231 is online!
What this rev do is add the checks for the flag also to the PVE rotation. If this will work this means we have bigger problems..
And it will explain why the Arena part is broken too.
That means that the composite that decide where we are decide it well (I know it from the log) but then load in memory the wrong rotation.
Rev231 solve the divine shild with flag issue?
If yes can you remember in witch revision it started? is realy important.
For those that were having problem in arena, can you try editing by hand the RAF settings and tryng again pls?
 
rev232 is online, improuved a little bit of logging, I think I'm getting nearer and nearer to the Hearth of the problem :)
 
Hey , Lovely CC just a few Qustions.. the new update.. is it just for the Test Hb.. as my Hb updated last Nite? do i still use 220?.. and i did have a little Look, but is there something up with the Raiding? on this CC, i find it very slow. and not half as good as in Dungs , just spams Holy shock, ive tryed to Reset wow/and Hb.. and the settings are like its New just but Speed on , happend Each raid now (5 times sinces ive used use,

But keep going this is by far the best CC ive used or Seen. great work
 
Slack3r said:
Hey , Lovely CC just a few Qustions.. the new update.. is it just for the Test Hb.. as my Hb updated last Nite? do i still use 220?.. and i did have a little Look, but is there something up with the Raiding? on this CC, i find it very slow. and not half as good as in Dungs , just spams Holy shock, ive tryed to Reset wow/and Hb.. and the settings are like its New just but Speed on , happend Each raid now (5 times sinces ive used use,

But keep going this is by far the best CC ive used or Seen. great work
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Same question as above post: is rev 232 for the release version of HB (5418)?
Because on your attachments it still says 230 and 232 are for test version of HB (5387)
Please clear this up for us.
 
haven't tryed myself rev 5418 BUT it seems to be a little bit bugged by looking at the release thread.
Rev232 will work on HB5418 but HB5418 seems bugged, so use at your own risk :)
 
nfantry said:
I agree with all of this, I however use the combat no movement bot, instead of lazyraider (always have and have never tried lazyraider, but works well enough to not try it). So I am not sure if that makes a difference or not. The talent spec on the front page is kinda bad aswell and I would stick with what you had. I never use selective healing, so that was probably your biggest problem. Because I 2 heal almost all fights, I stick the tank healing priority to 70, and that way i heal him first and heal the raid aswell. For beth you wont need to change anything, just make sure the tank your going up with or down with is your focus. The only fight i make any changes at all on is for Bael, where I make the tank healing priority to max setting and then use a macro to quickly change my focus to whomever is taking the shards. Good luck!
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Thanks for the tips :) Hopefully I get to test them out tomorrow..

Could you tell me, did you also change the multiplier or just the healing priority?

You say you're 2 healing, so are you using /focus on your tank and then manually beaconing the other tank? I was just wondering how the mechanics of that worked.

Thanks
 
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Well after several hours running this CC with Lazyraider on 5418, everything seems to be working for me just fine.
 
will try rec 232 when my arena mates are on...

I've to edit RAF-Settings to test ?What should i look for?
 
wooinau said:
Thanks for the tips :) Hopefully I get to test them out tomorrow..

Could you tell me, did you also change the multiplier or just the healing priority?

You say you're 2 healing, so are you using /focus on your tank and then manually beaconing the other tank? I was just wondering how the mechanics of that worked.

Thanks
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Thats a good point! I should be putting the beacon on the opposite tank I suppose, however it wouldnt work that way with me using Combat bot instead of LazyRaider, The way I am doing it, is setting the tank I am healing as focus and then my beacon goes on him aswell. I could turn the beacon off, so I would have to do it manually, I will look into that next raid. And no I dont use a multiplier at all except on the Bale fight.
 
BTW, if I use the 'Get tank from focus' option, do I still need to set the Tank in lazyraider?
And how do you disable beacon of light?
 
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JeffKing1989 said:
BTW, if I use the 'Get tank from focus' option, do I still need to set the Tank in lazyraider?
And how do you disable beacon of light?
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First question, no, the focus is enough.

Second question, you can disable the CC from using beacon by ticking the "Show Advanced Options" at the far bottom left of your Raid tab in the CC options and then tick "Do no cast/check Beacon of Light". You will obviously then need to make sure you manually cast beacon on a target and don't let it drop off if the fight lasts longer than 5 minutes.
 
Thanks guys for all of the help!

Last night things went much better. 6/7 FL10n and topped heals.

The only sticky point was on Baleroc, I had to manually flash heal for the shards, because the healing was too slow for this otherwise to get my stacks up. Otherwise, everything was just so much better thanks to the advice from Gilderoy and Nfantry :)
 
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