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Tony
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hehe,you are welcome dude 
I just came from MG as well, but noticing a few Banned posts - how safe is this Bot?
I want to be sure that it's not an injection bot like there was for AION. That was a nightmare, I lost about 4 Accounts before I gave up on that - it was super easy for them to detect you.
I want to be sure that it's not an injection bot like there was for AION. That was a nightmare, I lost about 4 Accounts before I gave up on that - it was super easy for them to detect you.
as with all bots and if u look on macro goblins site there was also alot of ban topics there.. theres always a risk of being ban as far as i know and can tell the only way to get that ban is " A : Run a Public Profile thats not safe anymore B : Be Reported by another player" so bot smart make your own paths and im sure u will be fine 
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Ryftomate is an injection bot.
I've used and made both passive and injected bots in WoW. I lost more accounts with the passive bots.
Ok, so there is quite a risk.
Do you have a plan in place for if they do put protection in? Like I said with AION all was fine then boom - thousands were banned. They kept saying it was safe again and I lost about 4 accounts.
Don't get me wrong, i'm prepared to lose some accounts - I just wondered if you had any contingency in place. I never played WoW, but some quick research shows me you have two very popular bots for that game - do you use injection on those as well?
Do you have a plan in place for if they do put protection in? Like I said with AION all was fine then boom - thousands were banned. They kept saying it was safe again and I lost about 4 accounts.
Don't get me wrong, i'm prepared to lose some accounts - I just wondered if you had any contingency in place. I never played WoW, but some quick research shows me you have two very popular bots for that game - do you use injection on those as well?
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Tony
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Dev team is constituted of experienced people,its the Hb/Gb team
so dont worry
while botting there is always a risk tho
so dont worry
while botting there is always a risk tho
The WoW Bots use injection as well, but are still very difficult to detect -- I've been botting with it for a couple years with only two suspensions, both of which my own fault. AION was an interesting case, as the major bot over there wasn't very well coded (imho), and pretty explicitly interacted with memory addresses, if I recall correctly. While I haven't seen the code to Ryftomate, I do know that their WoW bots are coded as safely as possible, so it stands to reason that the same care would be taken to this project.
That said, nothing is undetectable 100% of the time, because there's human intervention involved -- if a bot gets stuck on a wall, or does anything else remotely suspicious, one can get reported.
As Tony notes, there is always risk.
That said, nothing is undetectable 100% of the time, because there's human intervention involved -- if a bot gets stuck on a wall, or does anything else remotely suspicious, one can get reported.
As Tony notes, there is always risk.
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Hawker
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Ryfotmate has a tripwire so we can kill all instances if Trion does something that concerns us. We use this bot for our own farming. Believe me, we are paranoid about detection and doing all we can to protect against it.
For obvious reasons, I can't go into specifics but we do have scans in place.
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I thought Trion never had any protection software against botter's? i thought they only mostly bann from GM investiagtion's and plaster how many botters they have banned once every week, unless that's changed.
Just the movment with this bot is sooo bad ass i love how Little i crash with it also, Macro goblin i was LUCKY if it ran for 4 hours when i was at work, this one 8 hours lastnight no problems , " aside from when my bags get full it kind of bugs " then 4 hours when i was at work, i just 100% love this bot an am a life long fan
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Just the movment with this bot is sooo bad ass i love how Little i crash with it also, Macro goblin i was LUCKY if it ran for 4 hours when i was at work, this one 8 hours lastnight no problems , " aside from when my bags get full it kind of bugs " then 4 hours when i was at work, i just 100% love this bot an am a life long fan
That's the advantages with having a very basic bot, easy to update and stable, Hawker created HB1 (Wow bot) and it started like this bot now completely awesome, i just hope they dont go down the same road as HB2 and ruin it.
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Tony
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As a veteran-botter for as long as bots have existed for MMORG's i must say this bot acts very well. And it being an injectionbot was very obvious due to spells and megafast looting. From experience i must say I've had mixed experience with injectionbots, as it can be easily detected by certain systems put in place. However, Rift at the moment dont have this capability yet, so for now we are safe.
If Rift implements some warden'ish programming i suggest having a Plan B for reworking the bot into something memoryread- & write, dont you think? as hidden roguepatches tend to screw you over if some wardenprotection would be put into action.
As it stands now, this bot is top of the foodchain as Rift-bots goes, and the Dev team has impressed me in many ways it appears this bot has a bright future ahead, cheers
If Rift implements some warden'ish programming i suggest having a Plan B for reworking the bot into something memoryread- & write, dont you think?
as hidden roguepatches tend to screw you over if some wardenprotection would be put into action.As it stands now, this bot is top of the foodchain as Rift-bots goes, and the Dev team has impressed me in many ways
it appears this bot has a bright future ahead, cheersTesting. ATM, I can only see 10 out of 16 posts in this thread. Posting a test reply to see if it fixes the issue.
EDIT: This fixed the problem. Strange.
Blizzard has Warden. Honorbuddy is injection based and it's still going strong and hasn't had a detection banwave since I've been a user. Like I said, these guys do a pretty good job.
Is it 100% safe? Botting never will be but I don't think these guys want to lose their accounts any more than I do mine and by protecting their own interests, they're also protecting mine.
EDIT: This fixed the problem. Strange.
Blizzard has Warden. Honorbuddy is injection based and it's still going strong and hasn't had a detection banwave since I've been a user. Like I said, these guys do a pretty good job.
Is it 100% safe? Botting never will be but I don't think these guys want to lose their accounts any more than I do mine and by protecting their own interests, they're also protecting mine.
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As a veteran-botter for as long as bots have existed for MMORG's i must say this bot acts very well. And it being an injectionbot was very obvious due to spells and megafast looting. From experience i must say I've had mixed experience with injectionbots, as it can be easily detected by certain systems put in place. However, Rift at the moment dont have this capability yet, so for now we are safe.
If Rift implements some warden'ish programming i suggest having a Plan B for reworking the bot into something memoryread- & write, dont you think?
As it stands now, this bot is top of the foodchain as Rift-bots goes, and the Dev team has impressed me in many ways
So you want them to re-wite most of the bot? also you dont seem to know that we have the best reverse engineering bot dev's, Apoc, Hawker, Nesox and Main.
I have full faith in them since HB is a injection bot and has never been detected even doe it must of been on warden's radar for a long time and been on the top of the food chain for over a year.
Yeah, i did want them to rewrite the bot
for the reason we've seen the last day. Injectionbots are fail, memoryreading is safe, injection is nasty, end of discussion.