Ultimate Paladin Healer
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It will start healing when someone is below 95%hp. Just because the tank is in 348 gear doesn't mean hrs good, he could be in dps mostly gear I donno. But if he is getting hit for a ton and you are having trouble healing either you need better gear or the tank does. Maybe he doesn't have like any avoidance or block so he gets hit over and over again by a truck.
Mainly what I'm trying to say is if you can't keep up healing in heroics you or the tank needs better gear.
Mainly what I'm trying to say is if you can't keep up healing in heroics you or the tank needs better gear.
Also a little update on things to come. We'll be putting in better logic for healing and it will determine how fast people are loosing health and stuff rather that just looking at their raw hp. We are going to pit better prioritizing on keeping tanks and healers up over dps and will have some aggro logic to see who has aggro and if a dps pulls aggro it will know what to do (heal wise and maybe hand of salvation I think it's called, off the top of my heal).
But the main thing we are going to be doing is to see how fast players are loosing hp and heal based on that. I believe that it will make it much much better this way and won't be casting flash of light if a player is at 20% hp but not taking any damage. Also sacrificing a dps to keep the tank up will be part of the prioritizing because it's better to loose a dps than to loose a tank and wipe.
So overall, we are going to make this run better and faster than a human, and not just a substitute for a human
But the main thing we are going to be doing is to see how fast players are loosing hp and heal based on that. I believe that it will make it much much better this way and won't be casting flash of light if a player is at 20% hp but not taking any damage. Also sacrificing a dps to keep the tank up will be part of the prioritizing because it's better to loose a dps than to loose a tank and wipe.
So overall, we are going to make this run better and faster than a human, and not just a substitute for a human
ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW
last night I took my pally 5man heroics for the first time.
Gear is avg 343 or something like that and the 3 heroics was S M O O T H
He never ran out of mana and people were like WE LIVED THRU THAT? awesome
As usual now we have people that stand in S#$% and go duh when you scream
but this can handle it GREAT WORK
on this part >>>>better prioritizing on keeping tanks and healers up over dps
I was curious I saw this guy that constantly stood in crap he would hit 50% and the bot would start a big heal.
The tank would get to 50% and the bot would continue the dps cast before the tank cast.
What is best. finish dps cast or stop and switch to cast on tank?
I guess it would have to be how much time is left, is the dps still dropping, is it a DK ROFL
man that makes it some touch calls but the tank has to be #1 I guess.
sometimes I think we need a moron button...you stand in crap, don't get behind the boss...heal yourself
are you doing a druid one next
last night I took my pally 5man heroics for the first time.
Gear is avg 343 or something like that and the 3 heroics was S M O O T H
He never ran out of mana and people were like WE LIVED THRU THAT? awesome
As usual now we have people that stand in S#$% and go duh when you scream
but this can handle it GREAT WORK
on this part >>>>better prioritizing on keeping tanks and healers up over dps
I was curious I saw this guy that constantly stood in crap he would hit 50% and the bot would start a big heal.
The tank would get to 50% and the bot would continue the dps cast before the tank cast.
What is best. finish dps cast or stop and switch to cast on tank?
I guess it would have to be how much time is left, is the dps still dropping, is it a DK ROFL
man that makes it some touch calls but the tank has to be #1 I guess.
sometimes I think we need a moron button...you stand in crap, don't get behind the boss...heal yourself
are you doing a druid one next
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I was using this at the weekend and I found it to be fantastic, I was doing ZA and it coped quite easily.... one thing that i found a little annoying is when it won't cast judgement unless your a certain distance from the boss, i presumed that this is if you don't talent for the extra distance?
This is one thing that I did find, I did a BH25 run and i was using the aoe heals ect and it was casting holy shock/World of glory, but none of my heals were divine light/holy light it seemed as if the tanks dropped but by the time the bot registered the health he was healed back up therefore outside of the divine light threashold when i finished the fight I was on 85%.
My take on this is that when the tank drops this is when the bot would want to cast divine light but the bot is casting holy shock on someone else so it is stuck in a global so when the global is off the tank is back up to full hp. Maybe when were in a raid we could do a setting to just use aoe heals ect and concentrate holy shock and heals on the tank and offtank rather than the raid if that makes sense?
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I started a discussion in another thread regarding BG healing. HB follows the hotspot, but it seems that this CC will activate on enemies instead of allies, so ill post here to enlighten the situation and hope for some feedback.
Issue:
1. My toon runs AV,
2. HB takes it from hotspot to hotspot and
3. the CC kicks in when it is close to the other faction. (or is it HB?)
4. it runs toward the enemy to attack it, and heal allies around (if any)
The situation should be like this:
1. HB paths around
2. CC see Allies and stay with them, ignore enemies
3. heal heal heal.
I have seen my pally ignore allies that are very low on HP because there is no enemies around to "trigger it"
Does this make sense?
My logs are wtfhuge because of the tank finding spam, but I can fire it up if any of the CC dev's have problem reproduce it.
Issue:
1. My toon runs AV,
2. HB takes it from hotspot to hotspot and
3. the CC kicks in when it is close to the other faction. (or is it HB?)
4. it runs toward the enemy to attack it, and heal allies around (if any)
The situation should be like this:
1. HB paths around
2. CC see Allies and stay with them, ignore enemies
3. heal heal heal.
I have seen my pally ignore allies that are very low on HP because there is no enemies around to "trigger it"
Does this make sense?
My logs are wtfhuge because of the tank finding spam, but I can fire it up if any of the CC dev's have problem reproduce it.
@DonutDan: it raid heals better then me
@haxed: well if its canceling heals because the tank is already at full hp (or pretty close) i dont know whats wrong. who cares if other healers beat you to heal the tank, itll save you the mana when they are running low and you are still at full mana
@kayes: well it should be healing everyone around you in combat or not. as for the tank i think the newest version fixes that and will put you as the tank. but it should be healing anyone in your party/raid who is low on health. i know it does for a fact when i run raids and the pvp healing section isnt really that much different except for style of healing
@styles: im not writing a druid one, but i believe one is being made based off my old healing CC
@haxed: well if its canceling heals because the tank is already at full hp (or pretty close) i dont know whats wrong. who cares if other healers beat you to heal the tank, itll save you the mana when they are running low and you are still at full mana
@kayes: well it should be healing everyone around you in combat or not. as for the tank i think the newest version fixes that and will put you as the tank. but it should be healing anyone in your party/raid who is low on health. i know it does for a fact when i run raids and the pvp healing section isnt really that much different except for style of healing
@styles: im not writing a druid one, but i believe one is being made based off my old healing CC
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@sparks: the heal tank VS heal dps is thricky, i'm thinking about a weight system but nothing is in good shape for now no, we will not be doing a dudu CC next, at least I have no plan for any other CC
@Haxed: she ignore any enemy that is more than 29 yards away. this is so because all pala attack except for judge have 30y range and i do not realy wanna mess another time the targetting code, plus a lot of people do not have some of the talents for the range and all will be more messed up witha greather distance for judgment.
@Donutdan: again, this is meant to help you save some time, not play better then you
@kayes: what do you want is not possibile in current HB that's the short version
what do you want is not handled by a CC but by a botbase.
the CC can tell the what what to do when she is called, and only when she is called.
BGbot call the cc when he detect an enemy in range and so the cc react to the enemy, do not call her for allies and for sure do not follow allies.
So what do you need to do something like that is use a botbase or plugin like Squire that follow people up and call the cc when someone need heals instead that when an enemy is near.
(i tryed squire and didn't like it but maybe you will
in short words is not the cc the responsable for what you want but the botbase
no, we will not be doing a dudu CC next, at least I have no plan for any other CC @Haxed: she ignore any enemy that is more than 29 yards away. this is so because all pala attack except for judge have 30y range and i do not realy wanna mess another time the targetting code, plus a lot of people do not have some of the talents for the range and all will be more messed up witha greather distance for judgment.
@Donutdan: again, this is meant to help you save some time, not play better then you
@kayes: what do you want is not possibile in current HB
that's the short version what do you want is not handled by a CC but by a botbase.
the CC can tell the what what to do when she is called, and only when she is called.
BGbot call the cc when he detect an enemy in range and so the cc react to the enemy, do not call her for allies and for sure do not follow allies.
So what do you need to do something like that is use a botbase or plugin like Squire that follow people up and call the cc when someone need heals instead that when an enemy is near.
(i tryed squire and didn't like it but maybe you will
in short words is not the cc the responsable for what you want but the botbase
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so.. rev62 is online, she fix a little problem with judge, make sure you cast seal after a battle ress, try not to waste every man for himself in arena and add a first attempt to weight the heal so she heal the tank more, experimenal, need to be activated, to activate the new behaviour chante tank_healer from false to true, always in ultimatepalahealer.cs let me know! ^_^
let me know! ^_^I see what you mean by this actually, i never thought of it like this... I was just reading some paladin guides and it says that if you finish with half your mana then you didn't heal enough.