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Two IP adresses, one computer

Croga said:
Because it's a useless practice which doesn't make any sense.
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yeah blizz is known for banning with sense. like lvl 1 accounts with toons that never moved out of the starting zone.
and also never have false positives - so they really just ban with sense.

...damn irony button was activated. im so not sorry
 
Croga said:
So to conclude:
- An IP can relate to a lot of different persons
- One person can have different IP addresses

THAT is why Blizzard doesn't use IP addresses to ban people. Because it's a useless practice which doesn't make any sense.
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I tend to agree , but they actually use IP address once they identify an ofending account to check for other accounts using that same IP. And then, they investigate the IP sharing accounts. Or the IP sharing accounts that were online at the time of the investigation.

If one account is botting in one IP, and there are other 3 accounts using the same IP, chances are extremely likely that the others (or at least some of the other accounts) are botting too. It doesn't take a genious mind to figure that out. Guess Blizzard does too...

That also gives an adequate explanation to why Blizzard really lock, suspends and tries to severely discourage using VPN's. If the amount of people using public VPN's to connect were higher than what It already is, and they don't autolock accounts using the known IP ranges they provide, that system of investigating IP sharing accounts would be far less effective, as there would be too many accounts sharing the IP to be investigated one at a time.

Just random thoughts, I know.
 
joachimb said:
So nothing to do apart from buying another cheaper computer.
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There's not an answer that can be provided to that question. All we have are opinions, about how do we think blizzard bans.

You can try to cover the easy steps, that is, periodically changing MAC , IP, and some HWID's. You can go further, and use VM's , with specific IPs using VPNs. Or you could buy a cheaper comp. Or you could do nothing and bot 30 bots in the same PC. All in all, there's too much ground to cover, meaning we would never know what specifically blizzard is using to identify our pcs. There are many, many "identifying numbers" that blizzard could use. Furthermore, they could easily encript them before sending them or storing them, massively increasing difficulty in knowing their methods. It could be hard as impossible in effective terms, you can't reverse what you don't know you're looking for.

So, it is all up to you, in the end. There's many things you could do that could, or could not, help in avoiding bans. You can try all, spend a week setting things up, or do nothing and go balls against the wall.
 
Well I think I will go with the second option. As my comp is quite powerful I'll put another team of five under VM with another IP. But I have a feeling that Blizz targets VPN more than the rest ...

After writing that, I realize I might just go balls against the wall. ^^
It's just that that time I got everything banned I felt sooo bad ...
 
I just setted up a virtual machine but it's very slow, I can't run any WOW.
The host machine does not experience any lag, I must have setted up something wrong on the guest.
Could anyone give me a hand ? my skype is jbrindeau, I have teamviewer. It would be very appreciated :)
 
Well that's What i did and I have quite a good computer, best AMD GPU, i7,...
I don't understand :(
 
joachimb said:
I now have my VPS but I would like to run 5 bots on real IP and 5 others on the VPS IP¨, how can I do that ? (maybe two wow installations ? I have no idea)
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As people already informed you - use VMWare, its not hard, even for non-techs.

The whole point is, you were 99% banned, because used tons of bots on single wow client simultaneously.

They do it via their Own namespace in the Windows Registry, used to link all the wow licenses, ran on single machine/wow client - and the data is compared with their behavior-based ban-flags, then ban all the linked and flagged-botting licenses in the same time. Easy as that.

Myself got banned on 7 accounts in single hit two times, before I figure it out.

But that is not new practice from Blizzard, there is enough threads about it already.


On the question, as soon as you dedicate machine for each botting group, you are fine, and the IP barely does matter, simply because, when they banned 7x GB2 bots, they left the 12/24-uptime PP rogues untouched ...
 
Yeah but as I said, I created one vmware machine and it's very buggy !
Maybe you could give me your vmware settings :)

(If you'd like to give me a hand with this : jbrindeau on skype)

EDIT : I erased my machine, I will try testing a new one.
 
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