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TuanHA Rogue - The Ultimate Experience

bloggo said:
- subterfuge | cr using opener on enemy, waiting few seconds, using second opener, starting auto-attack

i think it would be an improvement if the cr starts auto-attacking right after the first opener, woudn't it?
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thumbs up for that. I like it too and hope that special edition is final in a few days. Getting bored on my 2,2 Tuanha hunter =D =D =D
 
Thanks guys for all the tips, my rogue just needed a shitload of gear (freshly dinged 90 without enchants/gems) ><
But I can see that my damage will be on par once I get decked out :D
 
bloggo said:
- subterfuge | cr using opener on enemy, waiting few seconds, using second opener, starting auto-attack

i think it would be an improvement if the cr starts auto-attacking right after the first opener, woudn't it?
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I've fixed it :D
 
Insanityy said:
hey tuan is your 21/22 eta stilled eta'ed? :)
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Yes, hopefully.

I keep tweaking every detail for official release now (mean I play rogue a lot lol)

Small detail like stop auto attacking if enemy is Invuneralbe (bubble, dispersion, in cyclone...) to get out of combat and re stealth... all possible ability are coding and being improved.
 
Hey TuanHA - Gave this a quick go on my fully decked out rogue, 9 kills 4 deaths in AB. Not bad but some deaths were probably my fault going commando.

One thing I did notice is that if you're rooted/frozen and can't escape (trinket/CloS) the routine lags very hard (when framelocked). You need to add a check at the start of the routine something like..

new Decorator(ret => (Me.IsRooted || Me.IsStunned) && SpellOnCooldown("Cloak of Shadows") && cantuseitem(trinket), new ActionAlwaysSucceed())

You get the idea...
 
Millz said:
Hey TuanHA - Gave this a quick go on my fully decked out rogue, 9 kills 4 deaths in AB. Not bad but some deaths were probably my fault going commando.

One thing I did notice is that if you're rooted/frozen and can't escape (trinket/CloS) the routine lags very hard (when framelocked). You need to add a check at the start of the routine something like..

new Decorator(ret => (Me.IsRooted || Me.IsStunned) && SpellOnCooldown("Cloak of Shadows") && cantuseitem(trinket), new ActionAlwaysSucceed())

You get the idea...
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Thank Millz, I think I need restructure my CR to work more nicely with framelock... it a bit outdated :D

Need your help too.

More precise on the lag on rooted, I can't just stop rotation there because while rooted, I can still Throw and kill nasty totem, shiv, kick nearby units or doing something else :D

Maybe just stop rotation when I got CCed and no trinket up.
 
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tuanha said:
Thank Millz, I think I need restructure my CR to work more nicely with framelock... it a bit outdated :D

Need your help too.

More precise on the lag on rooted, I can't just stop rotation there because while rooted, I can still Throw and kill nasty totem, shiv, kick nearby units or doing something else :D

Maybe just stop rotation when I got CCed and no trinket up.
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Just having a quick look at the code, there's so much unnecessary stuff.. You need to combine things !

For instance..

Code: 
        private static bool AmbushCheck()
        {
            if (!SpellManager.HasSpell("Ambush"))
            {
                return false;
            }

            if (!IsStealthed(Me))
            {
                return false;
            }

            if (Me.CurrentTarget == null)
            {
                return false;
            }

            if (!Me.IsBehind(Me.CurrentTarget))
            {
                return false;
            }

            if (PlayerEnergy > THSettings.Instance.ShadowDanceEnergy)
            {
                return false;
            }
            return true;
        }

Can be done..

Code: 
        private static bool AmbushCheck()
        {
            if (Me.CurrentTarget == null || !SpellManager.HasSpell("Ambush") || !IsStealthed(Me) || !Me.IsBehind(Me.CurrentTarget) || PlayerEnergy > THSettings.Instance.ShadowDanceEnergy)
            {
                return false;
            }

            return true;
        }

Or searching for units... You're using Where(u => conditions).FirstOrDefault() which means you're scanning all units which are valid, then selecting the first in the list..

I.e. We have units A/B/C/D/E

A - Invalid
B - Valid
C - Valid
D - Invalid
E - Valid

Your code will check the conditions on all 5 units, find the 3 which are valid, then pick the first (B).

If you change it to just a straight FirstOrDefault(u => conditions), it does..

A - Invalid
B - Valid -> Stop scanning, we have one..

If there's 40 units near you, and your scanning a full list of units each traverse, it'll have some serious lag implications.

It's also spamming out null exceptions on mass, it's probably the worst lag inducing problem with routines. This error in particular is causing the routine some serious issues.

[16:10:40.717 D] System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Styx.WoWInternals.WoWObjects.LocalPlayer.IsBehind(WoWUnit unit)
at TuanHARogue.Classname.AmbushShadowDanceCheck() in c:\<snip>\Routines\TuanHARogueOpenBeta\THCommon.cs:line 85

Which is this code..

Code: 
        private static bool AmbushShadowDanceCheck()
        {
            if (!Me.HasAura("Shadow Dance"))
            {
                return false;
            }

            if (!Me.IsBehind(Me.CurrentTarget))
            {
                return false;
            }
            return true;
        }

It's causing an error because you're checking parameters/conditions on a unit which can be (and is in this case) null.

Calls like that should be done..

Code: 
if(Me.CurrentTarget != null && !Me.IsBehind(Me.CurrentTarget)) { return false; }

[16:21:47.170 D] System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at TuanHARogue.Classname.CurrentTargetCheck() in c:\<snip>\Routines\TuanHARogueOpenBeta\THHelpers.cs:line 810

Code: 
if (CurrentTargetCheckIsWithinMeleeRange)
                {
                    CurrentTargetCheckInLineOfSpellSight = true;
                }
                else if (Me.CurrentTarget.InLineOfSpellSight)
                {
                    CurrentTargetCheckInLineOfSpellSight = true;
                }

You're over-complicating things..

Code: 
if(Me.CurrentTarget != null && (Me.CurrentTarget.IsWithinMeleeRange || Me.CurrentTarget.InLineOfSpellSight))
{
   CurrentTargetCheckInLineOfSpellSight = true;
}

The compiler will check each condition in the order you list them, and since InLineOfSpellSight is probably one of the most intensive calls the HB API has (since it does a full game world trace line between you and the target checking if objects are in the way and whether they'll block LoS) you need to have that call last.

Anyway, just some pointers...

*Edit*

Attaching your combat log is causing lua errors too.

*Edit 2*

Really need to use blind too..

[GetUnitsCall].FirstOrDefault(u => u != Me.CurrentTarget && (u.IsTargetingMeOrPet || u.IsCastingHealingSpell/*something like that?*/) && u.Distance <= 15)


I'll PM you my bill for a consultancy fee ;)


*Edit 3*

Sap isn't aggressive enough when out of combat
Need to add smoke bomb defensively
Targeting friendly players when out of combat (not in a BG when noticing this...)
Stealthing when picked up an orb (causing me to drop it) -> Aura = "Orb of Power"
 
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thanks for your great cc Tuanha, it would be awesome if this cc have pick lock function. when grinding, questing, pickpoketing, pp and pl would make decent gold I think
 
tuanha said:
Yes, hopefully.

I keep tweaking every detail for official release now (mean I play rogue a lot lol)

Small detail like stop auto attacking if enemy is Invuneralbe (bubble, dispersion, in cyclone...) to get out of combat and re stealth... all possible ability are coding and being improved.
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sweet, yea it has some very nice logic already just using for my dailies atm kills so much faster then anything ive used and really nice openers :D dont know about finishers though because they have all been dead by the end of the starter lol, millz had a few nice suggestions hopefully his consultancy fee isnt too much ;)
 
Hey, I have been using this for both pvp BGs and pve raids and it has been great. However, when I use it for Arena 2v2 it does nothing. It just doesn't attack anyone or anything? Is there something I am doing wrong?

Building Rotation Completed
----------------------------------
Hold 1 second Control + P To Toggle Pause Mode.
----------------------------------
10:748 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
10:907 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
14:790 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
14:939 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
21:266 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
21:418 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
21:576 HP: 100% Energy: 101 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
25:083 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
25:264 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
25:409 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
25:574 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
29:289 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
33:083 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
33:772 HP: 100% Energy: 107 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
36:899 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
37:220 HP: 100% Energy: 102 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
Hold
Not in game
05:288 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Deadly Poison (Wound Poison)
13:192 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
Hold
Not in game
Hold


That is all my log says when trying it in 2v2?
 
Shotas said:
Hey, I have been using this for both pvp BGs and pve raids and it has been great. However, when I use it for Arena 2v2 it does nothing. It just doesn't attack anyone or anything? Is there something I am doing wrong?

Building Rotation Completed
----------------------------------
Hold 1 second Control + P To Toggle Pause Mode.
----------------------------------
10:748 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
10:907 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
14:790 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
14:939 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
21:266 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
21:418 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
21:576 HP: 100% Energy: 101 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
25:083 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
25:264 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
25:409 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
25:574 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
29:289 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
33:083 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
33:772 HP: 100% Energy: 107 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
36:899 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
37:220 HP: 100% Energy: 102 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
Hold
Not in game
05:288 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Deadly Poison (Wound Poison)
13:192 HP: 100% Energy: 130 + CP: 0 Myself 0y 100% hp Burst of Speed (BurstofSpeedEnergy)
Hold
Not in game
Hold


That is all my log says when trying it in 2v2?
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Please read the topic/first post.
It has been mentioned a lot of times that Arena support will only be available for Special Edition (and now its still beta)
 
You need to update to the newest SVN revision. More on my 1st post.

SVN info is INCLUDED in the folder, the public SVN has no username and password required.
Remember update to the latest svn (right click folder, select SVN Update) before posting bug report.
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