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TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

Hello guys. I have raiding tonight. Can you please tell me what works best atm with the routine? Is it Eternal Flame or Selfless Healer? Also no one mentions the Sacred shields but I read on icy-veins that is on par with eternal flame...

Lastly, I would like to ask what botbase you suggest. Lazyraid or Enyo? Also some people mention that they use Hardlock while the routine does not support it? What is the truth on this? Do we benefit from Hardlock or not?

Thanks
 
Ksexasiaris said:
Hello guys. I have raiding tonight. Can you please tell me what works best atm with the routine? Is it Eternal Flame or Selfless Healer? Also no one mentions the Sacred shields but I read on icy-veins that is on par with eternal flame...

Lastly, I would like to ask what botbase you suggest. Lazyraid or Enyo? Also some people mention that they use Hardlock while the routine does not support it? What is the truth on this? Do we benefit from Hardlock or not?

Thanks
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Use Sacred Shield as a tank. Plus Enyo and yes Hardlock.
 
Just discovered that unticking Holy Light enables it to only get cast on IoL proc :)
Very nice indeed.
Now only need to look at the Holy Radiance prio over hasted Holy Light
 
Blacknr1 said:
Just discovered that unticking Holy Light enables it to only get cast on IoL proc :)
Very nice indeed.
Now only need to look at the Holy Radiance prio over hasted Holy Light
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Do you play with Selfless Healer or EF blanketing? I have chosen Eternal Flame, Sactified Wrath and Execution Sentence talents and this is my settings:

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What would you suggest to change? I am raiding Heroic atm with a group of 15-20 members (depending how many are online). Thanks in Advance.
 
I play with Selfless Healer.
If you wanna go EF, at least set it to 1. Thats the whole point in blanketing.
Also get rid of the tick in Cleanse Important debuff Immediately. And set it to the one under.

If you choose EF you will stop using LoD. As when you use the SH build you will disable word of glory (EF) and use LoD.
It is my understanding you need more haste to make the EF build worth it. Thus my idea of the SH build where you are only using hasted casts thus being able to go all out crit. Which as you know is our bonus stat.
 
Hey I'm playing ret pally atm, can anyone give tell me their settings and talents as it doesn't seem to be outputting high dps
 
with EF build you still use HL a lot, why disabling it? that makes no sense
 
652 and doing 18-19k on target dummies, and last nights raid at about 647 ilevel I was at 21k-22k
 
kelzaru said:
Hey I'm playing ret pally atm, can anyone give tell me their settings and talents as it doesn't seem to be outputting high dps
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best single target talents/glyphs:
Talent Calculator - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

enable "use divine storm on single target", set "selfless healer HP below" to "40" or even lower, because "80" will cast it to often and u will loose very often a global cooldown you could be using for a dps spell/attack
deactivate all stuff like healing friend etc. because its wasting your cooldowns or global cooldowns, its not your job to heal (u should only use "lay on hands on 20% hp" for the sake of this very powerfull cooldown"
 
Thepaap.
By disabling it, it will only cast when hasted. I.e. IoL proc.
Which is what you want both in the SH and the EF build.
 
kelzaru said:
652 and doing 18-19k on target dummies, and last nights raid at about 647 ilevel I was at 21k-22k
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on garrisons trainings dummy i get around 20k dps with 657 ilevel gear, of course thats not clearly single target because the divine storm will hit the tank trainingsdummy, too

and thats very good dps for a ret (without any raidbuffs)
 
Thepaap said:
best single target talents/glyphs:
Talent Calculator - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

enable "use divine storm on single target", set "selfless healer HP below" to "40" or even lower, because "80" will cast it to often and u will loose very often a global cooldown you could be using for a dps spell/attack
deactivate all stuff like healing friend etc. because its wasting your cooldowns or global cooldowns, its not your job to heal (u should only use "lay on hands on 20% hp" for the sake of this very powerfull cooldown"
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is this for pve? I've been using completely different talents to what you posted that's all and when I test on dummies with those talents it's at 18k still
 
Blacknr1 said:
Thepaap.
By disabling it, it will only cast when hasted. I.e. IoL proc.
Which is what you want both in the SH and the EF build.
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target is on 60-90 % hp: when you dont have IoL proc and zero holypower, what should the CR cast? (holy shock is on cd ofc)
 
kelzaru said:
is this for pve? I've been using completely different talents to what you posted that's all and when I test on dummies with those talents it's at 18k still
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yes i'm only talking about pve, do u have enabled Burst on cooldown? if it is marked as "boss only" it will afaik not use it on dummys
 
kelzaru said:
is this for pve? I've been using completely different talents to what you posted that's all and when I test on dummies with those talents it's at 18k still
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did u try the posted talents? if not, u can't do max possible dps, they are mathematically proven the best single target dps talents.
 
i have a weird thing the cc im a holy paladin in pvp high rating like 2100 but the cc target pets instead of players in arena anyone els noticed that to? then when you sometimes use the stun it stuns the pet instead of the player i use the cc my self even that i have target unchecked it stil does it
 
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