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TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

SH setup.
Change selfless healer from 80 to 100.
Disable word of glory.
Set LoD to "1, 100"
Set flashheal to 70.
And holy light to 70.

Holy avenger, prism, beacon of faith. (allowing for 2 raid cd's with short off cd time)
Beacon, merciful wrath, flash of light.

It works in raids. But for some reason it behaves differently in dungeons. So test it in lfr.

The latest build (55) gives us about 8-10k more sustainable healing. Cheers :)
But still missing some logic on the IoL proc.

Anyway it gives a very evenly spread of
Beacon of light
Holy prism
Light of dawn
Illuminated healing
Flash of light
Holy shock
With holy radiance being half of the others. Which is good because it is the most mana draining and should not be overused.
 
Blacknr1 said:
SH setup.
Change selfless healer from 80 to 100.
Disable word of glory.
Set LoD to "1, 100"
Set flashheal to 70.
And holy light to 70.

Holy avenger, prism, beacon of faith. (allowing for 2 raid cd's with short off cd time)
Beacon, merciful wrath, flash of light.

It works in raids. But for some reason it behaves differently in dungeons. So test it in lfr.

The latest build (55) gives us about 8-10k more sustainable healing. Cheers :)
But still missing some logic on the IoL proc.

Anyway it gives a very evenly spread of
Beacon of light
Holy prism
Light of dawn
Illuminated healing
Flash of light
Holy shock
With holy radiance being half of the others. Which is good because it is the most mana draining and should not be overused.
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Was hoping someone tested this out of town till tomorrow I'll give your set up a try thanks!
 
Is the Ret PvE rotation not optimized, even with the paid version?

I'm raiding as a ret paladin and this routine seems to get about 4-5% less dps then the other ret paladin in our raid, and we are basically in the same ilvl range, there was even a point where I was ahead of him a few points.

I've been looking through settings but I don't know what I need to modify/adjust to make it perform better.
 
Blacknr1 said:
SH setup.
Change selfless healer from 80 to 100.
Disable word of glory.
Set LoD to "1, 100"
Set flashheal to 70.
And holy light to 70.

Holy avenger, prism, beacon of faith. (allowing for 2 raid cd's with short off cd time)
Beacon, merciful wrath, flash of light.

It works in raids. But for some reason it behaves differently in dungeons. So test it in lfr.

The latest build (55) gives us about 8-10k more sustainable healing. Cheers :)
But still missing some logic on the IoL proc.

Anyway it gives a very evenly spread of
Beacon of light
Holy prism
Light of dawn
Illuminated healing
Flash of light
Holy shock
With holy radiance being half of the others. Which is good because it is the most mana draining and should not be overused.
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Tryed it with enyo and the non store Tuanha Paladin.

I used exactly your settings. Its the same problem. Tank dies in heroics. HB still too slow, but what means to slow it simply does nothing. The routine did the continous healing in form of holyshock, beacon and eternal flame. The tank died very quickly, it doesnt cared at all. Simply its the same problem with dps. The rogue got damage and recieved no heal. It doesnt heal at all or better said it realizes damage/ reacts far too slow.

So far its still unusable for holy paladin in my case.
 
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I had the same problem in dungeons, thus I suggested to test it in lfr.
But it seems to help adjusting enyo hardlock/fps down from 60 to 30.
Ofc. we want it to work in dungeons too :)

I already shared the important ones, glyph/talents.
 
Whats your dungeon expierance? Did it worked with the adjusted hardlock?

In this state its far away from the mop pendant, better said it sucks atm.
 
i like what u did with the new update now i see the protection tab the retri tab and holy tab as holy only
 
Blacknr1 said:
I had the same problem in dungeons, thus I suggested to test it in lfr.
But it seems to help adjusting enyo hardlock/fps down from 60 to 30.
Ofc. we want it to work in dungeons too :)

I already shared the important ones, glyph/talents.
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When do you find optimal to use Holy avenger then?
 
Works just fine for me.
Beast in dungeons, 1st in LFR and Raid, and godmode in BGs...
 
Hi Tuanha!

Rev 55 works a lot better with EF. Thank you for fix EF.

But CR isn't using [Judgment] on CD with [Selfless Healher] talent. Sometimes using and sometimes isn't using. And we need [Judgment] on CD with [Selfless Healher], like [Holy Shock].

Also isn't using [Crusader Strike] with EF. Even configured to attack.

Thank you!
 

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Natiruts said:
Hi Tuanha!

Rev 55 works a lot better with EF. Thank you for fix EF.

But CR isn't using [Judgment] on CD with [Selfless Healher] talent. Sometimes using and sometimes isn't using. And we need [Judgment] on CD with [Selfless Healher], like [Holy Shock].

Also isn't using [Crusader Strike] with EF. Even configured to attack.

Thank you!
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Hi Nat :)

On raid, Judgment will use on cooldown. However, in all other situation, it will skip Judgment if someone below 40% because I think we should not waste 1 GCD not healing and someone may die. New rev will change the logic a bit (Will Judgment always if we have 2 stack because it make FoL instant)

I will add Crusader Strike to gain Holy Power back next version too.

Please keep testing for me, I always love your suggestions and bug finding :)
 
Thank you Tunha! :) I'm always testing, pvp and pve.

But in dungeons, ppl are with 80% and CR isn't casting Jud, is intentional? Only casts if everyone is with full life.

I agree with you!
it will skip Judgment if someone is below 40% because I think we should not waste 1 GCD not healing and someone may die.
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Can you put a option to configure this porcentage?

An option to ignore the Jud if someone is below "X"% and only cast heal.

For example, I want 25%.

Thanks!
 
Hi Nat :D

I've just upload new version this is the change:

Judgment for Selfless Healer will cast on cooldown if:
- You are in BG/Arena (in PvP instant FoL is the best healing spell)
- You are in Raid (lol we can blame other healer not blow cooldown to save someone low :D)
- All party/raid member above 40%
- You are at 2+ stack of Selfless Healer (because next FoL will be instant cast)
 
tuanha said:
Hi Nat :D

I've just upload new version this is the change:

Judgment for Selfless Healer will cast on cooldown if:
- You are in BG/Arena (in PvP instant FoL is the best healing spell)
- You are in Raid (lol we can blame other healer not blow cooldown to save someone low :D)
- All party/raid member above 40%
- You are at 2+ stack of Selfless Healer (because next FoL will be instant cast)
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We need to be able to configure these percentages on our own, we need to be able to set priority to our tanks but not ONLY to our tanks, other healing rotations I can set it to heal tank at 90% health or dps at 70% and I can edit this number, it's just more critical healing, if my guild leader is a TANK and he needs more tank heals because we seem to be dieing because of lack of heals, I should be able to go right into my config file and change the value and make it greater so that it will heal him faster. Also another thing I noticed is if our raid is at 15% health, it will continue healing the dps and not heal myself resulting in me dieing by next big aoe from the boss, it should have some order like Tank>Heal>DPS-- it doesn't have that
 
Tecnotic said:
We need to be able to configure these percentages on our own, we need to be able to set priority to our tanks but not ONLY to our tanks, other healing rotations I can set it to heal tank at 90% health or dps at 70% and I can edit this number, it's just more critical healing, if my guild leader is a TANK and he needs more tank heals because we seem to be dieing because of lack of heals, I should be able to go right into my config file and change the value and make it greater so that it will heal him faster. Also another thing I noticed is if our raid is at 15% health, it will continue healing the dps and not heal myself resulting in me dieing by next big aoe from the boss, it should have some order like Tank>Heal>DPS-- it doesn't have that
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Doesn't have that option but itdoes do that.
tuanha said it's tank above 80% then heals over 60 and dps 40 or something like that. I think it would be great to edit these settings. I did I quick heroic dungeon for first test and I noticed even though tank and heals were above 80. It was letting dps fall below 30.
Also focus has priority over all then target is second after that are the classes mentioned above.

So I had to target him for priority, I don't know why it let him fall so low.
 
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LoD now cast on 3 stacks, nice :)

Holy light is still the problem child.
HL must have lower prio than holy shock and judgement. Thus it must be cancelled if any of those are off cd.
That is for the unhasted HL.
When it casts the unhasted HL you are out of the game for the 2sec it takes to cast. Also wasting a general cd that could have been used on HS.
I understand the idea is to get some cheap healing from Holy light and build Ill. shields on the tanks, but in a real fight it is not worth wasting time (and mana) casting the unhasted HL.
To get the most out of our mana we want our cast to actually heal and not only building shields.
I.e. I dont think it pays of to cast an unhasted holy light on a full health ppl just for the ill. shields sake.
Which leads us back to the single target heal prio
Flash of light with stacks.
Holy light with IoL proc.
Flash of light with zero stacks.
And leave the pure shield building to LoD and HS.

If we can get to that point that it only gets cast on IoL procs, we can now look at the prio between hasted HL and hasted Holy Radiance.
I saw it cast a hasted HL and after that cast an unhasted Holy Radiance.
We must check before casting a hasted HL if Holy Radiance will heal more.

Cheers :)
 
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