TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

[RomkX]

Hi Tuanha,
Can you make using Emancipate (Emancipate - Spell - World of Warcraft) in Paladin rotation not automatically.
It uses it too often, and in pvp we becoming less aggressive.

Foe example here are the logs of some fight today.

[14:51:57.578 N] 57:577 HP: 100 % Mana: 100 (0 HP) Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin 0y 100% hp Emancipate (121783)
[14:52:02.334 D] 02:333 Trying to cast Emancipate (121783) on Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin reason EmancipateLow Mana 32000 HolyPower 0 HolyPowerMax 5
[14:52:02.536 N] 02:535 HP: 100 % Mana: 100 (0 HP) Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin 0y 100% hp Emancipate (121783)
[14:52:15.447 D] 15:446 Trying to cast Flash of Light (19750) on Lvl 100 Alliance Warrior reason FlashofLightMeTopUpRet Mana 32000 HolyPower 0 HolyPowerMax 5
[14:52:16.992 N] 16:991 HP: 100 % Mana: 100 (0 HP) Lvl 100 Alliance Warrior 16.03y 97% hp FlashofLight (19750)
[14:52:36.075 D] 36:075 Trying to cast Emancipate (121783) on Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin reason EmancipateLow Mana 32000 HolyPower 0 HolyPowerMax 5
[14:52:36.304 N] 36:304 HP: 100 % Mana: 100 (0 HP) Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin 0y 100% hp Emancipate (121783)
[14:52:38.805 D] 38:800 Trying to cast Emancipate (121783) on Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin reason EmancipateLow Mana 32000 HolyPower 0 HolyPowerMax 5
[14:52:39.045 N] 39:045 HP: 100 % Mana: 100 (0 HP) Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin 0y 100% hp Emancipate (121783)

Another one -

[14:55:33.814 N] 33:812 HP: 32 % Mana: 94 (1 HP) Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin 0y 32% hp Lay on Hands (633)
[14:55:34.009 N] 34:008 HP: 91 % Mana: 79 (1 HP) Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin 0y 91% hp Emancipate (121783)
[14:55:34.014 D] Interrupt Random Value = 63
[14:55:35.021 D] 35:021 Trying to cast Emancipate (121783) on Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin reason EmancipateLow Mana 27265 HolyPower 1 HolyPowerMax 5
[14:55:35.055 D] Active Enemies: 7
[14:55:35.346 N] 35:346 HP: 78 % Mana: 71 (1 HP) Lvl 100 Alliance Paladin 0y 78% hp Emancipate (121783)

Actually today i was standing hear hunter on BG and instead of hitting HIM i did Emancipate because i got some movement impairing effects on me ( like 5 times in 10sec).

Thank you for your support

 

[tuanha]

Hi, I've just fix emancipate issue with recent update.

 

[Degenz]

Hey tuanha, atm my Ret isnt even using Exorcism procs at all.

 

[Jammeson]

Is the premium available on your website or is it still in development?

 

[Cubix]

Adding a simple (well I think it would be) hot key option to heal the mushroom would be ideal tuahuna so it can be popped when we need it [emoji4]

Yeah, best solution !

 

[lexase]

the ret is still low damage output in arena

 

[ashdale]

This really strange because the same code on druid and it heal Mushroom very well, a few other people using paladin confirm on this thread it heal mushroom too.

If you don't give me a log, I just can't believe you

Two of the posts just after you added the auto healing of mushrooms explained WHY you shouldn't be doing it, and how in H and M it will either wipe your raid or cause you to be benched, but you never replied to either one and from this post I guess never read them either, and have never done the fight outside of LFR. Best solution is to just remove ALL auto healing of living mushroom, and let the raider either focus or target it and then the CR will heal it up when its needs to be. Heck alot of raids have a specific healer controling the healing on it by themselves to make sure the timing is correct as on M there isn't much wiggle room for screwing up the shrooms.

 

[Alex_]

the patch around 4:00/5:00 pm fixed ret pve dps very well.
but after the update at 9:00 pm my ret pve dmg is 3k dps lower

Please fix pve dps>pvp dps!

 

[Osbot]

This really strange because the same code on druid and it heal Mushroom very well, a few other people using paladin confirm on this thread it heal mushroom too.

If you don't give me a log, I just can't believe you

The CR should never heal the mushshroom unless explicitly told to do so. The reason is this. On normal/heroic/mythic, the Mushrooms are a resource that have to be expended at a very specific time. If the Mushroom is healed prematurely, it will expend itself.

The Mushroom being healed at the RIGHT time, is to avoid the raid wide Spores which cleave everyone. Right now with the CR, the moment the Mushroom pops up, the CR will heal it. The Mushroom then expends itself at the wrong moment and is no longer able to be used to mitigate the raid wide Spore damage.

I hope that clears up why the CR should NOT heal the Mushroom.

 

[Winio]

Is there some way to disable the mushroom healing during Brakenspore? Just caused a wipe during progress.

 

[Nat]

This really strange because the same code on druid and it heal Mushroom very well, a few other people using paladin confirm on this thread it heal mushroom too.

If you don't give me a log, I just can't believe you

Hi Tuanha!

I'm giving log for you since 4 december (Rev 31) and you still don't believe me or you are ignoring my reports. I made two big posts explaining to you all these bugs and them still there.

1º post 4 december - https://www.thebuddyforum.com/thebu...adin-ultimate-experience-695.html#post1756253
2ª post 4 december - https://www.thebuddyforum.com/thebu...adin-ultimate-experience-696.html#post1756550

I'll post a log again and I'll report the same bugs that I reported 13 days ago.

1º bug - CR is casting [Eternal Flame] with 1 or 2 holy power (WITHOUT DIVINE PURPOSE), even configured to cast with 3.
Using [Sanctified Wrath] talent

[20:16:57.330 D] [SpellManager] Adding known spells: Righteous Fury       (025780) | Sanctified Light     (165380) | [B][I][SIZE=4]Sanctified Wrath[/SIZE][/I][/B]     (053376)

Eternal Flame bugged 1 holy power

[20:20:26.006 N] 26:006 HP: 100 % Mana: 95  (0 HP) Lvl 100 Horde Shaman 7.53y 78% hp Holy Light (82326)
[20:20:26.016 D] 26:016 Trying to cast Holy Shock (20473) on Lvl 100 Horde Shaman reason HolyShock Mana 151411 HolyPower 0 HolyPowerMax 5
[20:20:26.198 N] 26:198 HP: 100 % Mana: 93  (1 HP) Lvl 100 Horde Shaman 7.53y 78% hp Holy Shock (20473)
[20:20:27.028 D] 27:028 Trying to cast [B][I][SIZE=4]Eternal Flame[/SIZE][/I][/B] (114163) on Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight reason EternalFlameTank Mana 150494 [B][I][SIZE=4]HolyPower 1[/SIZE][/I][/B] HolyPowerMax 5
[20:20:28.436 N] 28:436 HP: 100 % Mana: 95  (0 HP) Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight 18.05y 97% hp [B][I][SIZE=4]Eternal Flame[/SIZE][/I][/B] (114163)

Eternal Flame bugged 2 holy power

[20:20:36.618 N] 36:608 HP: 100 % Mana: 93  (2 HP) Lvl 100 Horde Paladin 0y 100% hp Holy Shock (20473)
[20:20:37.391 D] 37:391 Trying to cast [I][B][SIZE=4]Eternal Flame[/SIZE][/B][/I] (114163) on Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight reason EternalFlameTank Mana 150517 [B][I][SIZE=4]HolyPower 2[/SIZE][/I][/B] HolyPowerMax 5
[20:20:38.795 N] 38:795 HP: 100 % Mana: 95  (0 HP) Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight 18.05y 71% hp [B][I][SIZE=4]Eternal Flame[/SIZE][/I][/B] (114163)

2º bug - A lot of times when I have 3 holy power, CR doesn't cast [Eternal Flame].
Using [Holy Light] instead [Eternal Flame] with 3 holy power to blanket the raid or the party, even configured to blanket with 3 holy power.

[20:20:53.287 N] 53:287 HP: 100 % Mana: 84  (3 HP) Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight 23.85y 82% hp Holy Shock (20473)
[20:20:54.087 D] 54:087 Trying to cast [I][B][SIZE=4]Holy Light[/SIZE][/B][/I] (82326) on Lvl 100 Horde Warrior reason HealUrgent HolyLight Mana 135798 [B][I][SIZE=4]HolyPower 3[/SIZE][/I][/B] HolyPowerMax 5
[20:20:55.031 N] 55:031 HP: 100 % Mana: 84  (3 HP) Lvl 100 Horde Warrior 18.7y 87% hp [I][B][SIZE=4]Holy Light[/SIZE][/B][/I] (82326)

3º bug - if I configure to cast [Flash of Light] with X% HP, even with 3 holy power, he doesn't cast [Eternal Flame]. Just spam [Flash of Light] until the target get more than X% HP.
4º bug - Dispel is broken. Sometimes Dispels and sometimes not.

You released 15 revisions and these bugs still there.
Please, for god's sake, I'm begging to you!!! Try to fix these bugs.

Thank you!

 

[tonycillo]

Tuanha once again the man.

 

[Alex_]

Please fix ret PVE DPS

 

[Jones2351]

Rank below ten today on Kargath mythic.

Brackenspore fight has to be healed by your own still due to wrong mushroom prioritization.

EF still sometimes blanketing with sanctified wrath talent.

CR does not seem to react accordingly to aspect of the fox anymore.

 

[siuyuz]

That strange and because you provide no log, I highly doubt that. Because base on my testing, previous version do 12k dps, new version 14k so it's can't do less dps (I use Final Verdict talent)

And I've just update new rev that fix the switch seal (btw, don't use empowerseal talent atm, it the worst, Final Verdict is a lot better)

I tired all 3 talent at HM Normal Final Boss
Seal is giving me 20-21K dps
while FV and Seraph is giving me 17-18k only.
(my gear lv is 643)

btw Seraph is not casting sometime as well and i had to manually cast it
Also while under Avenging Wrath, sometime it doesn't cast hammer of wrath as first priority

 

[tuanha]

Hi Tuanha!

I'm giving log for you since 4 december (Rev 31) and you still don't believe me or you are ignoring my reports. I made two big posts explaining to you all these bugs and them still there.

1º post 4 december - https://www.thebuddyforum.com/thebu...adin-ultimate-experience-695.html#post1756253
2ª post 4 december - https://www.thebuddyforum.com/thebu...adin-ultimate-experience-696.html#post1756550

I'll post a log again and I'll report the same bugs that I reported 13 days ago.

1º bug - CR is casting [Eternal Flame] with 1 or 2 holy power (WITHOUT DIVINE PURPOSE), even configured to cast with 3.
Using [Sanctified Wrath] talent

[20:16:57.330 D] [SpellManager] Adding known spells: Righteous Fury       (025780) | Sanctified Light     (165380) | [B][I][SIZE=4]Sanctified Wrath[/SIZE][/I][/B]     (053376)

Eternal Flame bugged 1 holy power

[20:20:26.006 N] 26:006 HP: 100 % Mana: 95  (0 HP) Lvl 100 Horde Shaman 7.53y 78% hp Holy Light (82326)
[20:20:26.016 D] 26:016 Trying to cast Holy Shock (20473) on Lvl 100 Horde Shaman reason HolyShock Mana 151411 HolyPower 0 HolyPowerMax 5
[20:20:26.198 N] 26:198 HP: 100 % Mana: 93  (1 HP) Lvl 100 Horde Shaman 7.53y 78% hp Holy Shock (20473)
[20:20:27.028 D] 27:028 Trying to cast [B][I][SIZE=4]Eternal Flame[/SIZE][/I][/B] (114163) on Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight reason EternalFlameTank Mana 150494 [B][I][SIZE=4]HolyPower 1[/SIZE][/I][/B] HolyPowerMax 5
[20:20:28.436 N] 28:436 HP: 100 % Mana: 95  (0 HP) Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight 18.05y 97% hp [B][I][SIZE=4]Eternal Flame[/SIZE][/I][/B] (114163)

Eternal Flame bugged 2 holy power

[20:20:36.618 N] 36:608 HP: 100 % Mana: 93  (2 HP) Lvl 100 Horde Paladin 0y 100% hp Holy Shock (20473)
[20:20:37.391 D] 37:391 Trying to cast [I][B][SIZE=4]Eternal Flame[/SIZE][/B][/I] (114163) on Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight reason EternalFlameTank Mana 150517 [B][I][SIZE=4]HolyPower 2[/SIZE][/I][/B] HolyPowerMax 5
[20:20:38.795 N] 38:795 HP: 100 % Mana: 95  (0 HP) Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight 18.05y 71% hp [B][I][SIZE=4]Eternal Flame[/SIZE][/I][/B] (114163)

2º bug - A lot of times when I have 3 holy power, CR doesn't cast [Eternal Flame].
Using [Holy Light] instead [Eternal Flame] with 3 holy power to blanket the raid or the party, even configured to blanket with 3 holy power.

[20:20:53.287 N] 53:287 HP: 100 % Mana: 84  (3 HP) Lvl 100 Horde DeathKnight 23.85y 82% hp Holy Shock (20473)
[20:20:54.087 D] 54:087 Trying to cast [I][B][SIZE=4]Holy Light[/SIZE][/B][/I] (82326) on Lvl 100 Horde Warrior reason HealUrgent HolyLight Mana 135798 [B][I][SIZE=4]HolyPower 3[/SIZE][/I][/B] HolyPowerMax 5
[20:20:55.031 N] 55:031 HP: 100 % Mana: 84  (3 HP) Lvl 100 Horde Warrior 18.7y 87% hp [I][B][SIZE=4]Holy Light[/SIZE][/B][/I] (82326)

3º bug - if I configure to cast [Flash of Light] with X% HP, even with 3 holy power, he doesn't cast [Eternal Flame]. Just spam [Flash of Light] until the target get more than X% HP.
4º bug - Dispel is broken. Sometimes Dispels and sometimes not.

You released 15 revisions and these bugs still there.
Please, for god's sake, I'm begging to you!!! Try to fix these bugs.

Thank you!

Hey Nat,

I'm still working on new Holy Paladin and I hope new update will be ready in 1-2 days.

Thank for the log.

 

[tuanha]

I tired all 3 talent at HM Normal Final Boss
Seal is giving me 20-21K dps
while FV and Seraph is giving me 17-18k only.
(my gear lv is 643)

btw Seraph is not casting sometime as well and i had to manually cast it
Also while under Avenging Wrath, sometime it doesn't cast hammer of wrath as first priority

Hi siuyuz,

I've update new version what properly wait for Seraphin/Hammer of Wrath and use it on cooldown.

Please test and let me know.

 

[dudekde22]

Anyone willing to post settings for proving grounds? Got past wave 10 the other night, but that's about as far as i can go on default "group" settings.

 

[Nat]

Hey Nat,

I'm still working on new Holy Paladin and I hope new update will be ready in 1-2 days.

Thank for the log.

Thank you very much!

 

[amor_inifnitus]

It would seem that judgement is taking priority over crusader strike for pve ret. Anyone experiencing this too?