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TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

irol said:
hey So i donated wondering when i get svn?
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I've send you email including login info and installation guide. If you haven't see it, please check your spam mail folder or let me know.

Thank you for your support.
retlover said:
@TuanHA: I'd like to ask that what are the chances to get banned for using this with honorbuddy.

Never botted before and I'm afraid of losing my account.
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If you bot 4 hour and stop for 2 hour, you rarely get banned (it best to use with HBRelog for a schedule login)

If you play manually and use lazyraider + combat routine to assist, you never get banned :D
 
tuanha said:
I've send you email including login info and installation guide. If you haven't see it, please check your spam mail folder or let me know.

Thank you for your support.

If you bot 4 hour and stop for 2 hour, you rarely get banned (it best to use with HBRelog for a schedule login)

If you play manually and use lazyraider + combat routine to assist, you never get banned :D
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Sounds good. I think that I'll use the holidays for buying HB and your CC and have some fun. :)

I'm following this thread since it's created and it's not clear to me how ret fares in arenas with your CC. Is there any high rated ret pallies who use this? It would be great to see their setup to be able to copy it :)

Also for the PvE rotation I think that the EJ thread I posted a few pages back is a really great source if you're looking for information to improve the ret PvE part. I tried the HotR stuff I quoted and I think that they're right, it may be true that it's better than CS even on 2 targets. I have 476 ilvl and usually in the top 3 on most fights in LFR. With your CC's reaction time and decision making I should top the DMG charts. :)

If I recall correctly in PvP the ret rotation uses HotR on melee to debuff them to do 10% less damage. Am I right?
 
retlover said:
Sounds good. I think that I'll use the holidays for buying HB and your CC and have some fun. :)

I'm following this thread since it's created and it's not clear to me how ret fares in arenas with your CC. Is there any high rated ret pallies who use this? It would be great to see their setup to be able to copy it :)

Also for the PvE rotation I think that the EJ thread I posted a few pages back is a really great source if you're looking for information to improve the ret PvE part. I tried the HotR stuff I quoted and I think that they're right, it may be true that it's better than CS even on 2 targets. I have 476 ilvl and usually in the top 3 on most fights in LFR. With your CC's reaction time and decision making I should top the DMG charts. :)

If I recall correctly in PvP the ret rotation uses HotR on melee to debuff them to do 10% less damage. Am I right?
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No for now Retribution don't use HotR on PvP...

But that a nice suggestion and I'll make it keep debuff on enemy player (only melee class ofc) in PvP... thank you.
 
I am just posting here to say i am on 2k team + atm using HOLY PVP mode ( donator edition ) and i personally SUGGEST this CC to everyone here wanting to Lazy-arena using tuanha's cc.

WELL SPEND Money :)

PS : Tuanha, what is going to be your next CC TELL US!
 
Hello TuanHa. Allready several days i cant understand healin logic on arena. Some time it is very bad some times just perfect. I've attached file with several fights, please look at fight starts on 21:01

I can try to analize how bot acts but and it is realy strange for me, so lets see:

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[21:03:01.969 N] 01:969 - HP: 100% - Mana: 89 - Druid - 2.99y - 80% hp - Sacred Shield
[21:03:03.112 N] Activate Жетон господства злонравного гладиатора on Friendly Unit Low HP
[21:03:03.160 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 105809, KnownIndex: 68
[21:03:03.173 N] 03:172 - HP: 100% - Mana: 91 - Myself - 0y - 100% hp - Holy Avenger
[21:03:03.530 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 62124, KnownIndex: 63
[21:03:03.542 N] 03:541 - HP: 100% - Mana: 91 - ВосемьСтан - 10.49y - 87% hp - Reckoning
[21:03:03.546 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20925, KnownIndex: 76
[21:03:03.570 N] 03:569 - HP: 100% - Mana: 91 - Druid - 8.94y - 56% hp - Sacred Shield
[21:03:03.820 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 53563, KnownIndex: 74
[21:03:03.835 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 75
[21:03:03.865 N] 03:865 - HP: 100% - Mana: 90 - Druid - 11.15y - 40% hp - Holy Shock
[21:03:05.323 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 75
[21:03:05.334 N] 05:334 - HP: 100% - Mana: 89 - Myself - 0y - 100% hp - Holy Shock
[21:03:06.646 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 635, KnownIndex: 65
[21:03:06.658 N] 06:658 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87 - Warrior - 10.09y - 95% hp - Holy Light
[21:03:07.028 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 53563, KnownIndex: 74
[21:03:07.038 N] 07:038 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Druid - 48y - 33% hp
[21:03:07.039 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 75
[21:03:07.061 N] 07:061 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87 - Warrior - 11.87y - 95% hp - Holy Shock
[21:03:07.467 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 53563, KnownIndex: 74
[21:03:07.477 N] 07:477 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Druid - 46y - 30% hp
[21:03:07.478 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 635, KnownIndex: 65
[21:03:07.489 N] 07:489 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87 - Warrior - 11.51y - 95% hp - Holy Light
[21:03:07.930 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 53563, KnownIndex: 74
[21:03:07.943 N] 07:943 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Druid - 41y - 27% hp

As you can see my opponets start to play in druid on 21:03:01 . All going fine i try to heal him ets.
On [21:03:05.334 N] 05:334 - HP: 100% - Mana: 89 - Myself - 0y - 100% hp - Holy Shock] WTF!!! My druid runs with 40% HP i stay just near him - 12 yards and bot use Holy shock on myself to gain holy power???
Lets see futher
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[21:03:07.038 N] 07:038 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Druid - 48y - 33% hp
[21:03:07.039 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 75
[21:03:07.061 N] 07:061 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87 - Warrior - 11.87y - 95% hp - Holy Shock
Again! Druid allready with 33% HP and bot cast holy shock on my warrior with 95% HP!!! And try to fake Holy light!?

Yes i see that druid is 46 yards away but i run to him and bot just spend Holy Shock proc on warrior wich one do not need it.

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[21:03:14.383 N] 14:382 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Druid - 5y - 20% hp
[21:03:14.384 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 85673, KnownIndex: 71
[21:03:14.397 N] 14:397 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87 - Druid - 5.38y - 20% hp - Word of Glory
[21:03:15.808 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 85673, KnownIndex: 71
[21:03:17.552 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20925, KnownIndex: 76
[21:03:17.585 N] 17:585 - HP: 100% - Mana: 89 - Druid - 4.42y - 45% hp - Sacred Shield
[21:03:19.035 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 31842, KnownIndex: 39
[21:03:19.048 N] 19:048 - HP: 100% - Mana: 90 - Myself - 0y - 100% hp - Divine Favor
[21:03:19.121 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 53563, KnownIndex: 74
[21:03:19.134 N] 19:133 - HP: 100% - Mana: 90% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Warrior - 4y - 90% hp
Now druid is near me, bou use BoL on him to heal him, but when his HP goes up to 45% bot decide to use beacon of light to 90% warrior. Why??

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[21:03:27.561 N] 27:561 Stop Casting: Unit is Dead

If you will look at how much healing druid gain in period between opponents start to focus him and momen whan he dies you will see: 3 holy shock, 1 prism, 1 world of glory and 1 flash of light.
It is 27 seconds! :) No divine light, only one flash of light and two Holy shock in wring target...
I have notice this problem 4-5 days ago. I know it is alot of [299!] in log but if you look it is appears between entet and closing arena games, not during the fight.
So what problem can it be?

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Question: On [21:03:05.334 N] 05:334 - HP: 100% - Mana: 89 - Myself - 0y - 100% hp - Holy Shock] WTF!!! My druid runs with 40% HP i stay just near him - 12 yards and bot use Holy shock on myself to gain holy power???
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[21:03:05.334 N] 05:334 - HP: 100% - Mana: 89 - Myself - 0y - 100% hp - Holy Shock
[21:03:06.658 N] 06:658 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87 - Warrior - 10.09y - 95% hp - Holy Light
[21:03:07.038 N] 07:038 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Druid - 48y - 33% hp

Answer: Combat Routine Holy Shock you to gain Holy Power, all it can do it to put the beacon on druid because Becon is the ONLY spell that have 60 yards range, all other healing spells are 40s yard range. The druid is 48 yards away, not 12 yards like you said.


Question: Again! Druid allready with 33% HP and bot cast holy shock on my warrior with 95% HP!!! And try to fake Holy light!?
Yes i see that druid is 46 yards away but i run to him and bot just spend Holy Shock proc on warrior wich one do not need it.
Code: 
[21:03:07.038 N] 07:038 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Druid - 48y - 33% hp
[21:03:07.039 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 75
[21:03:07.061 N] 07:061 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87 - Warrior - 11.87y - 95% hp - Holy Shock
Answer: Well, again, druid 48 yard range, CR put beacon on him and Holy Shock Warrior. The druid have 15% healing from Warrior with beacon.


Question: Now druid is near me, bou use BoL on him to heal him, but when his HP goes up to 45% bot decide to use beacon of light to 90% warrior. Why??
Code: 
[21:03:14.383 N] 14:382 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Druid - 5y - 20% hp
[21:03:14.384 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 85673, KnownIndex: 71
[21:03:14.397 N] 14:397 - HP: 100% - Mana: 87 - Druid - 5.38y - 20% hp - Word of Glory
[21:03:15.808 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 85673, KnownIndex: 71
[21:03:17.552 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20925, KnownIndex: 76
[21:03:17.585 N] 17:585 - HP: 100% - Mana: 89 - Druid - 4.42y - 45% hp - Sacred Shield
[21:03:19.035 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 31842, KnownIndex: 39
[21:03:19.048 N] 19:048 - HP: 100% - Mana: 90 - Myself - 0y - 100% hp - Divine Favor
[21:03:19.121 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 53563, KnownIndex: 74
[21:03:19.134 N] 19:133 - HP: 100% - Mana: 90% - Beacon of Light to Heal Second Unit - Warrior - 4y - 90% hp

Answer: When the NEXT instant spell ready (Holy Shock, Word of Glory...) it is pointless to keep Beacon on the Druid because he benefit nothing from these spell. Combat Routine decided to put Beacon on Warrior (who was at 90%) to get 15% healing done from the incoming heal to druid. If next spell is Flash of Light/Devine Light, combat routine will keep it on druid to get 1 more extra holy power.

I know combat routine can not predict anything, good logic still not there yet :D it only get the most healing done at a specific time.

And I'm sure CR can do better let me thing about more advanced logic in these situation.

Thank for the detailed log Cerbz.
 
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I do notice that somtimes in Bgs and such, the CC enjoys leaving myself at 40% or so while healing others who are at 70%+ even if i am being hit still. Nothing to worrysome as i do take over and heal myself. Will provide a log next time it happens.
 
Alucardtnuoc said:
I do notice that somtimes in Bgs and such, the CC enjoys leaving myself at 40% or so while healing others who are at 70%+ even if i am being hit still. Nothing to worrysome as i do take over and heal myself. Will provide a log next time it happens.
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Not sure but that info may explain something.

CR have heal priority on Target > Focus > You.

So when target need heal, CR routine will heal him instead of you... it the same logic on heal tank on PvE

? I'm assigned to heal tank, what should I do?
Combat Routine have build-in heal priority logic. It will heal target (if below 95%) > Focus (if below 70%) > You (If below 70%) > Everyone else. So just target your tank and set focus on your off tank, Combat Routine will heal them first.
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Personally, I always set focus on Flag Carrier in Battleground so CR will heal him instead of other.
 
is it worth the $20 over the public release? It seems its working fairly well leveling and questing right now.
 
anyone else raiding as ret with this cr ? i try it in lfr and i think there is a range problem ...
garalon! i stand in meele range but the bot just cast judgment ... when im in the purple ring (i dont have to stand there as a meele :) ) hes continue the rotation perfect.

and i wish there is an option to turn off autoface enemies

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rosek said:
anyone else raiding as ret with this cr ? i try it in lfr and i think there is a range problem ...
garalon! i stand in meele range but the bot just cast judgment ... when im in the purple ring (i dont have to stand there as a meele :) ) hes continue the rotation perfect.

and i wish there is an option to turn off autoface enemies

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A new version with improved ret dps and Galagon fix will be ready in couple of hour, I'm testing it now

Option for disable auto facing will be ready tomorrow :D
 
Ok guys, svn update pls.

This time we have new build focus mostly on Retribution:

1. Retribution will now use [Hammer of the Righteous] on enemy physical dps (Warrior, Feral Druid, Enh Shaman, Ret Paladin, Rogue, DK, Hunter...) in Arena to keep the Weakened Blow debuff (that reduce 10% damage done) This work in arena only because in Battleground who busts who first is the only mater and [Hammer of the Righteous] is bad at bursting.
2. Improved Retribution rotation (thank retlover)
3. 5% more dps if you have [Glyph of Double Jeopardy] Combat Routine will now keep all enemy around doted with Censure debuff. (multi dot warlock/shadow priest style :P )

Just test first boss on Thalnos the Soulrender (first boss on Scarlet Monastery - a typical Boss + Add fight) and I have 80 dps in Full PvP gear ilevel 466 :D

Enjoy.

Edit: Ouch, I forgot new build also fix Garalon thank Rosek
 
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People are allways too lazy to read the first page, lol. Better get used to it Tuanha ;D (allthough I read it, especially when I geared for holy)
 
is anybody else using ret? for some reason when im using ret im getting slow use of abilities like it isnt fast its medium speed
 
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