TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

[Klikster]

Hand of Protection will only used when:
1. Divine Shield on Cooldown
2. Some PHYSICAL DPS class around (Warrior, Rogue, Monk, Ret Paladin, Feral Druid, DK, Enh Shaman, Hunter). The spell useless vs Magic DPS class like Mage, Warlock, Shadow Priest...
3. You don't have Forbearance (the debuff that last 1 minute after using Lay on Hands, Divine Shield, Hand of Protection)
4. In PvE, Hand of Protection never cast on tank, only cast on someone low and being attacked by NPC

Last time I check, it work perfectly for me.

Alright, I'll look into this more while I'm running 3's and post logs before I say anything further on the matter. Just had my partner in 2's chew me out for not using it on them, ruined our 17-0 streak.

 

[HBfanboy1980]

lol blame him for not giving you enough time to use it. If he expects you to use it, he should equally be prepared to kite/evade and avoid as much damage as possible so you CAN possibly use it.....

 

[tuanha]

Alright, I'll look into this more while I'm running 3's and post logs before I say anything further on the matter. Just had my partner in 2's chew me out for not using it on them, ruined our 17-0 streak.

Clearly 16-0 is not impressive enough. Haxed just told me on skype he got hoter streak of 23-0 xD

 

[bigmansam4]

for pve raid healing. been reading that in the beginning. mastery will be best. until we get enough spirit then haste will be best and crit is not practical. what is your opinion for the cc?? im currently spir and crit stacked. 8805 spirit 13.92% haste 15.24% crit and 22.36% mast. with no buffs expect my insight and BoM what are your guys opinions on stat stacking and yours Tuanha for your CC?

 

[alaerwen]

This is intended.

Combat routine will not attack Blind, Repentance, Sheep... target. These are debuff that break on damage, better don't touch them xD

oh sorry, my mistake ur correct, will he attack them if i glyph it tho? to knockdown?

 

[alaerwen]

for pve raid healing. been reading that in the beginning. mastery will be best. until we get enough spirit then haste will be best and crit is not practical. what is your opinion for the cc?? im currently spir and crit stacked. 8805 spirit 13.92% haste 15.24% crit and 22.36% mast. with no buffs expect my insight and BoM what are your guys opinions on stat stacking and yours Tuanha for your CC?

haste will never be better then mastery for us, haste was a major buff for us in cata due to holy radiance ticks, but u are not intended to do HR anymore so why stack haste.

spirit > mastery/int > crit > haste

in my opinion, but some ppl would say crit and haste to be about equal, i disagree, rather want the infusion of light proc.

 

[bigmansam4]

thanks for the response. mastery stacking it is.

 

[alaerwen]

also tuanha this cc doesnt seem to blacklist mobs? he gets stuck alot while questing ):

 

[tuanha]

The blacklist function is been there, not sure if it work as intended. Let me find an evade mob to check.

Thank you for reporting.

 

[HB0875L86]

Hi Tuanha!
I'm a donor for your monk and pally routines - tried to get the zip file from your dbx but the file is no longer there. Are there instructions anywhere for donors to get the routine? Thanks!

Post Edit:
Found my backup copy. But can't svn update because can't connect to sourcerepo.

 

[tuanha]

Can you send me an email. I'll fix that soon.

 

[JSmall55]

what is the average DPS that this routine can acomplish as a Ret paladin? ilvl466 and only getting 29-32k all gear is reforged/gemmed. Am i doing something wrong? Side note: Healing is flawless, especially in pvp. it takes a very well geared player to take me down.

 

[Doomertr]

Can you please tell more detail, I check my prot rotation again and it still good (and better than what in your suggestion imo)

Here the current prot rotation:
ReckoningCompProtection(),
ArdentDefender(),
BubbleFlashofLightRet(),
CancelBubbleProtection(),
SetAutoAttack(),
LayonHandsMe(),
AvengingWrathBurstRet(),
HolyAvengerBurstRet(),
DivineProtectionMe(),
DevotionAura(),
UseHealthstone(),
UseBattleStandard(),
GuardianofAncientKingsProtection(),
DivineShieldMe(),
HandofProtectionMe(),
SacredShieldMeProt(),
AvengersShieldLowestThreatUnit(),
HandofProtectionFriend(),
CrowdControlSurviveComp(),
HandofFreedomMe(),
SealProtection(),
FlashofLightSelflessHealer(),
WordofGloryMeProtection(),
ShieldoftheRighteous(),
HammerofWrathCurrentTarget(),
HammerofWrathUnitHammerofWrath(),
JudgementRangeRet(),
HammeroftheRighteousProtection(),
CrusaderStrikeRet(),
JudgementRet(),
AvengersShield(),
HolyPrismRet(),
HolyPrismHeal(),
ExecutionSentenceRet(),
ExecutionSentenceHeal(),
LightHammerRet(),
LightHammerHeal(),
Consecration(),
ConsecrationGlyph(),
HolyWrath(),
WordofGloryMeTopUpRet(),
FlashofLightMeRet(),
FlashofLightFriendRet(),
FlashofLightMeTopUpRet(),
BuffRotation(),
RighteousFury(),

Ok. for 5 ppl or LFR - this rotation is the best.
For raids first of all i need new function "AvengersShieldGrandCrusader()", that check Grand Crusader buff on me. Also i took HandofSacrificeFriend(), from retri rotation. After all of this raid rotation will be next:
//DPS Rotation Here
SetAutoAttack(),
LayonHandsMe(),
AvengingWrathBurstRet(),
HolyAvengerBurstRet(),
DivineProtectionMe(),
DevotionAura(),
UseHealthstone(),
UseBattleStandard(),
GuardianofAncientKingsProtection(),
DivineShieldMe(),
HandofProtectionMe(),
WordofGloryMeProtection(),
ShieldoftheRighteous(),
AvengersShieldGrandCrusader(),
JudgementRangeRet(),
HammeroftheRighteousProtection(),
CrusaderStrikeRet(),
JudgementRet(),
SacredShieldMeProt(),
AvengersShieldLowestThreatUnit(),
HandofProtectionFriend(),
CrowdControlSurviveComp(),
HandofSacrificeFriend(),
HandofFreedomMe(),
SealProtection(),
FlashofLightSelflessHealer(),
HammerofWrathCurrentTarget(),
HammerofWrathUnitHammerofWrath(),
AvengersShield(),
HolyPrismRet(),
HolyPrismHeal(),
ExecutionSentenceRet(),
ExecutionSentenceHeal(),
LightHammerRet(),
LightHammerHeal(),
Consecration(),
ConsecrationGlyph(),
HolyWrath(),
WordofGloryMeTopUpRet(),
FlashofLightMeRet(),
FlashofLightFriendRet(),
FlashofLightMeTopUpRet(),
BuffRotation(),
RighteousFury(),

 

[tuanha]

what is the average DPS that this routine can acomplish as a Ret paladin? ilvl466 and only getting 29-32k all gear is reforged/gemmed. Am i doing something wrong? Side note: Healing is flawless, especially in pvp. it takes a very well geared player to take me down.

I got around 40k dps on ilevel 461 half pvp/pve on level 90 dummy.

Can you give me a log so I can check what wrong?

 

[tuanha]

Ok. for 5 ppl or LFR - this rotation is the best.
For raids first of all i need new function "AvengersShieldGrandCrusader()", that check Grand Crusader buff on me. Also i took HandofSacrificeFriend(), from retri rotation. After all of this raid rotation will be next:
//DPS Rotation Here
SetAutoAttack(),
LayonHandsMe(),
AvengingWrathBurstRet(),
HolyAvengerBurstRet(),
DivineProtectionMe(),
DevotionAura(),
UseHealthstone(),
UseBattleStandard(),
GuardianofAncientKingsProtection(),
DivineShieldMe(),
HandofProtectionMe(),
WordofGloryMeProtection(),
ShieldoftheRighteous(),
AvengersShieldGrandCrusader(),
JudgementRangeRet(),
HammeroftheRighteousProtection(),
CrusaderStrikeRet(),
JudgementRet(),
SacredShieldMeProt(),
AvengersShieldLowestThreatUnit(),
HandofProtectionFriend(),
CrowdControlSurviveComp(),
HandofSacrificeFriend(),
HandofFreedomMe(),
SealProtection(),
FlashofLightSelflessHealer(),
HammerofWrathCurrentTarget(),
HammerofWrathUnitHammerofWrath(),
AvengersShield(),
HolyPrismRet(),
HolyPrismHeal(),
ExecutionSentenceRet(),
ExecutionSentenceHeal(),
LightHammerRet(),
LightHammerHeal(),
Consecration(),
ConsecrationGlyph(),
HolyWrath(),
WordofGloryMeTopUpRet(),
FlashofLightMeRet(),
FlashofLightFriendRet(),
FlashofLightMeTopUpRet(),
BuffRotation(),
RighteousFury(),

Ah, I got you now

Grand Crusader
Requires Paladin (Protection)
Requires level 50
Your Crusader Strike and Hammer of the Righteous hits have a 20% chance of refreshing the cooldown on your next Avenger's Shield and causing it to generate a charge of Holy Power if used within 6 sec.

Yeah, Prot Paladin rely on Holy Power and this proc Generate 1.

I'll code it tonight when I got home.

Sorry it too slow to understand that lol.

 

[Ebano]

Ty for the good work you made me to love pvp

 

[nevigrofnu]

Protection routine makes my pants wet. Amazing!

 

[tuanha]

Newest update (need to get home to test but it should work)

AvengersShieldLoseThreat(), - Avenger Shield on unit that lose aggro
ShieldoftheRighteous(), - Spend 3 Holy Power ASAP
AvengersShieldGrandCrusader(), - Use Avenger's Shield when we have "Grand Crusader" up, it generate 1 Holy Power
HammeroftheRighteousProtection(), - Generate 1 Holy power if we fight 4 or more mob, also use on 1 unit if they don't have "Weakened Blows"
CrusaderStrikeRet(), - Generate 1 Holy power
JudgementRet(), - Generate 1 Holy power
AvengersShieldLowestThreatUnit(), - Use Avenger's Shield on lowest threat unit
AvengersShield(), - Use Avenger's Shield on current target in case we don't face lowest threat unit
Consecration(), - AoE spell when nothing left to do
HolyWrath(), - AoE spell when nothing left to do


Credit: Doomertr

Also add Doomertr to Special Thank list xD

 

[Biocide]

I would like an option to blacklist people that i don't want to heal or an heal list where i can add people that i want to heal.
That would be good in raids where i'm a tank healer.

 

[JSmall55]

log is attached. I also noticed that when casting holy prism the letters come up in red, not yellow. The funny thing is nothing seems to be going wrong, and as i have noted before Holy spec works flawlessly.

"43:750 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100 - Training Dummy - 3.69y - 100% hp - Holy Prism" would come up in a redish colored text, as opposed to the bright yellow it normally does.

Thanks for any help! ( just went to dummies and was able to get 31k. All of my talents and glyphs are exactly as you have recommended in your first post.)