TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

[zinner]

To be honest i dont Think the logs will be helpfull at all , just got beaten in Looking for retards (lfr) by a priet who had 502 in ilvl and im at 520+ . CC use totaly wrong spells at wrong time and not as it did Before, this is pretty useless atm and i hope he works on a fix fast

 

[Mario27]

To be honest i dont Think the logs will be helpfull at all , just got beaten in Looking for retards (lfr) by a priet who had 502 in ilvl and im at 520+ . CC use totaly wrong spells at wrong time and not as it did Before, this is pretty useless atm and i hope he works on a fix fast

wel i gues your using the Public version who doesend get updated then im in item level 520 hpally and im using the special edition why im all the time in my guild raids on top healing 3 2 or 1 if u want faster updates u have to pay for special edition just like we do the public releases wil always be later but he updates the special edition all times.

 

[Soeski]

I've used this last monday (updated to revision of that day, can't see which one now) and it used Holy Light a lot, but for me is working perfectly! I even had to tone down the healing to -10 (slider in Special version) and still outhealed the other higher ilvl players. No complaints here, the only thing is that I do no know exactly WHAT is changed when setting the slider from -10 to +10 or in between. I only know what it leads to; more, or less healing. But I don't know how.

 

[Mario27]

I've used this last monday (updated to revision odf that day, can't see which one now) and it used Holy Light a lot, but for me is working perfectly! I even had to tone down the healing to -10 (slider in Pro version) and still outhealed the other higher ilvl players. No complaints here, the only thing is that I do no know exactly WHAT is chaged when setting the slider from -10 to +10 or in between. I only know what it leads to; more, or less healing. But I don't know how.

reduce holy light to 60 50 if you dont want it to spam it alot but u wil get out of mana then faster it wil use flash of light devine light and sometimes holy light normally i have holy light on 60 70 flash of light on 75 and devine light on 80 and wings on 50 and guardian on 50 also

 

[zinner]

i use the paid version.. BUT the free older version i had on a other install works WAY better i took two of my same geared paladins and tried in LFR and the old version pulled out 100k on tops and the paid version could only do 65k .. same settings as far as possible on them . The older public version is way better atm .. Before he updated the paid to this new method it was way better then the free one but now "#?% ....
it should not even do flash of light on a fight like magera on rampage .. it shouldnt delay holyshock/holy prism as it do now .. Before it never lost much holy Power, Now it rarely got full holy Power cuase it casts Holy light constantly.



Magera LFR

Older free version pulled 109k avg
Used holy radiance holy light holy prism holy shock etc etc etc

Newest special edition pulled 66k avg
Spamed Holy light (2 holy shock one holy radiance)

During this AoE fights like magera the new cc is totaly .......

Both in same fight (multiboxing)
Both ilvl 524 with exactly same gear enchants gems etc

 

[neled]

please check your inbox tuanha ty

 

[Blinkpoolz2]

Hi,

the pre-emptive healing/defence is great in arena.

Whilst your reworking the donor paladin code could you add in a cleanse logic for Ret Paladin in arena pvp so it cleanses roots/slows so hand of freedom is available for partners more frequently please.

 

[Qrets98]

Do I have to pay for the healing mana mechanic thingy to adjust the mana spend etc..?

 

[tuanha]

Hi.

Any chance of putting in an option for it to make use of Glyph of Harsh Words so it will use holy power for ranged damage not just melee range and self healing on ret and prot.
I use them for pvp.

Thanks either way.

I think it already coded and automatically activated if you have that glyph.

But there's no option for it yet, it's part of new overhaul work.

to all: 1st post it back, it removed by accident but Chinajade helped me restore it. Thank you Chinajade.

 

[mnipper]

should I use the public version until the special one is fixed?

 

[Lexi777]

I'm glad you're doing an overhaul on your Paladin CR it really really really really needs it.

I heal in a 25man guild, So last night was our first raid of the new week (We're 6/13 Heroic) and I use your Special Edition CR. So I Adjusted the slider from 0 → 4 → 7 → 10 through out the raid. My holy pally's iLvl is 531 so I'm decently geared. Typically if it's on 10, I pull stupid HPS until I oom fairly quickly into a fight. Idk if the whole CR is just messed up atm, or whats wrong but I never went below 95% mana on boss fights and averaged like 25-30k HPS. If I didn't request to sit out and fake an excuse that I was just receiving unplayable lag I most likely would have been kicked from my own guilds raid. I heal along side with 2 monks/a disc and Resto druid, Most of the time if you check meters at the end of a fight it's always myself or 1 of our monks on top (Most healing done and top HPS) So they were really wondering what was wrong last night.

Of course I can play without any botting system but definitely not as well as when the CR is up and running at it's best. I know I'm probably not the only player that's having issues similar to this.

Please Tuanha! We need you!

 

[tuanha]

If you still spent too much mana, try to adjust the percentage

Holy Light to 80%
Flash of Light to 30%
Divine Light to 50%
Holy Radiance to 5 unit below 80%
Light of Dawn to 5 unit below 80%

All the mana issue can change by player, and you already have a nice GUI to adjust it...

I don't think I need adjust the core logic as it react really fast now, maybe I need adjust the default setting to a lower percent.

 

[mnipper]

got in game, 45% of heals in lfr, it special edition seems fine to me.

 

[Mario27]

there is a bug i make a arena config for holy and it changes to a retribution config sometimes?

 

[tuanha]

Typically if it's on 10, I pull stupid HPS until I oom fairly quickly into a fight.

The new "preemptive" it a bit more aggressive, it start healing BEFORE unit actually get damage, I suggest you lower the healing percentage.
Set the slide to 10 work great in OLD version but in new version you will go OOm in 2 min, try set it to 0 or lower.

 

[alaerwen]

we rly need some kind of setting where we can choose to use a cd (for example divine favor) when x amount of ppl is below % hp, because atm its rly stupid, especially when he reacts so fast... like on pull when tank has 0 vengeance, if he drops to 70% hp only for the first 0,5 seconds on fight, bot will pop every single fucking cd he have which is set on 70% for example, and even if i was to put it on lets say 50%, then on example megaera when entire raids goes to 70%ish all the time, he wouldnt use divine favor, which he should..... AND ALSO worst part is fucking ionization on jinrokh heroic, he just insta lay on hands, guardian, divine favor, avenging wrath, sacrifice, eeeverything when there rly is no harm, its just 1 player dropping to 15% hp and wont recieve any more damage for 20 seconds...

so! either a delay, (which might be stupid, sometimes a player actually does need LoH exactly on time, and in arena it would cause troubles i guess,)
OR my best idea, add a box like on holy radiance, "5 ppl below 80%, go divine favor",

<3 sir tuanha

 

[Tryst]

we rly need some kind of setting where we can choose to use a cd (for example divine favor) when x amount of ppl is below % hp, because atm its rly stupid, especially when he reacts so fast... like on pull when tank has 0 vengeance, if he drops to 70% hp only for the first 0,5 seconds on fight, bot will pop every single fucking cd he have which is set on 70% for example, and even if i was to put it on lets say 50%, then on example megaera when entire raids goes to 70%ish all the time, he wouldnt use divine favor, which he should..... AND ALSO worst part is fucking ionization on jinrokh heroic, he just insta lay on hands, guardian, divine favor, avenging wrath, sacrifice, eeeverything when there rly is no harm, its just 1 player dropping to 15% hp and wont recieve any more damage for 20 seconds...

so! either a delay, (which might be stupid, sometimes a player actually does need LoH exactly on time, and in arena it would cause troubles i guess,)
OR my best idea, add a box like on holy radiance, "5 ppl below 80%, go divine favor",

<3 sir tuanha

Heyah Alaerwen, you shared your settings before, on the front page, after various updates and patches, has this changed? Could you post your current settings for us, because in 499 ilvl gear, im only getting 35k hps, and i should be doing a lot more! Care to share hints on settings, reforges and healing tactics? Cheers.

 

[tuanha]

For cooldown, it already have internal cooldown usage.

The logic is suggested by you months ago. For example if someone go below 50%, CR will use Divine Favor, only 10 sec after it and there still another guy below 50% percent, it will use another cooldown (lay on hands, guardian, holy revenge...)

It doesn't burn all cooldown at once as far as I can see.

5 ppl below 80%, go divine favor

This may be great in PvE, in PvP we need better logic... don't know if it really needed

 

[tuanha]

I tried to search but couldn't figure out an answer from the many posts involving this but I can't find a setting for using avenging wrath and it almost never uses it. Dont know why maybe Im just a suck ret pally but I thought you wanted to keep avenging wrath active as much as you could also rarely ever uses guardian of ancients not on bosses not ever unless I manually hit the burst mode combo. Dont know if Im missing something or what. Other then that this CC is awesome. Works great even not using Avenging wrath so really just a curiousity.

For ret using cooldown, please ret 1st post on Burst.

Ret will use all cooldown at once on burst mode (for example when you set to activate when enemy below 50%)

 

[alaerwen]

For cooldown, it already have internal cooldown usage.

The logic is suggested by you months ago. For example if someone go below 50%, CR will use Divine Favor, only 10 sec after it and there still another guy below 50% percent, it will use another cooldown (lay on hands, guardian, holy revenge...)

It doesn't burn all cooldown at once as far as I can see.

This may be great in PvE, in PvP we need better logic... don't know if it really needed

i know the delay between them is added, which im very proud of being part of (its like a baws thing ) BUT THIS THING IS VERY IMPORTANT TUANHA! i promise its very important in pve, ppl in pvp can just put it on 1, trust me divine favor is like THE baws cd for holy radiance, u dont want it go waste on single person ))): same with guardian.. 1 heal and person is topped anyway,