TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

[Cerbz]

Tuanha hello! It is known that Tuanha CR Paladin does not give hand of freedom enh shamans, feral druids, retri pals, but in cases where only the above teammates in your team, it becomes necessary because hand of freedom are not used in practice. The same enh shaman will get more benefit from a quick hand of freedom. Thx!

What for? Save it for yourself or give it manualy if it is realy needed what can be realy rarely. If your druid cant reshift in less then 1 sec same as shaman or ret pally which one can give freedom/emancipate for him self it is realy strange.

 

[Zer]

What for? Save it for yourself or give it manualy if it is realy needed what can be realy rarely. If your druid cant reshift in less then 1 sec same as shaman or ret pally which one can give freedom/emancipate for him self it is realy strange.

I would not have said if it had not had such a situation. Maybe a situation where it's really needed are rare, but even unnecessarily difference between inaction and simplify the current mate is obvious.

 

[tijj]

Holy sucks? hmmmmm i dont think thats accurate.

Tua i been away for a while with RL commitments, come back and updated CR for Paladin and Monk, what can i say? They are working so well right now, super duper fast! I tip my hat to you.

Playing casual 2s & 3s at 1800+ while i get back into things and 2k+ RBG is just EZ mode. Thanks alot pal, any new projects coming up il be happy to help test (healing perspective).

Also those who inboxed me for advise, i apologize for not getting back to you but RL>WOW. I am back online now so any reasonable questions about PvP and my settings il be happy to help, just inbox me.

 

[tuanha]

Welcome back tijj

Please update the guide, a lot people need it.

 

[tuanha]

Tuanha hello! It is known that Tuanha CR Paladin does not give hand of freedom enh shamans, feral druids, retri pals, but in cases where only the above teammates in your team, it becomes necessary because hand of freedom are not used in practice. The same enh shaman will get more benefit from a quick hand of freedom. Thx!

I think hand of freedom the class that can freedom themselves is not really needed.

Better let them remove root/snare on them and you save that GCD to heal/dps/cc

 

[devilady]

Hello.

I dont know what is happening with CR. Sometimes it heal like crazy and do awsome work. Sometimes not (more often).
With balance bar set to 0 (default) i have all the time 100% mana. With bar set to 10, toon cast almost all the time radiance - it burn mana fast, but its not make any good hps. At TOT25HC im last at table, and rest paladins have 30-50% more heal. Sometimes tanks are higher than me (im 515ilvl). I guess balance bar is only for faster or slower mana burn - its not affecting hps.

My tyrael settings are 30TPS, and all optione unticked.
CR settings - raid default, all cd manually. Balance 1-10 (all settings sucks)

If anyone have good settings for 25hc, please share it.

 

[tijj]

Will update my guide this evening but honestly most of my settings are the same, i use your slider set to 0 or middle.

Would it be easier if i just uploaded my settings and then focused more on playstyle?

 

[xLegendx]

Holy sucks? hmmmmm i dont think thats accurate.

Tua i been away for a while with RL commitments, come back and updated CR for Paladin and Monk, what can i say? They are working so well right now, super duper fast! I tip my hat to you.

Playing casual 2s & 3s at 1800+ while i get back into things and 2k+ RBG is just EZ mode. Thanks alot pal, any new projects coming up il be happy to help test (healing perspective).

Also those who inboxed me for advise, i apologize for not getting back to you but RL>WOW. I am back online now so any reasonable questions about PvP and my settings il be happy to help, just inbox me.

Pallys are currently the worst healers for PvP, arena specifically.
It's been said by countless top players and it shows from the lack of pallys past 2200

Shams/Disc/Resto Druids are the top dogs.

In fact, here's the best comps that are most likely to get rank 1 as said by Vanguards (best ret pally to ever play) and a few other multi glad players.

Tier 1
Thug Cleave: Rogue / Hunter / Discipline Priest
Shattertree: Shadow Priest / Mage / Restoration Druid
Shatterplay: Shadow Priest / Mage / Restoration Shaman
RPS: Rogue / Shadow Priest / Restoration Shaman

Then the next,

Tier 2
RMP: Rogue / Mage / Discipline Priest
RPD: Rogue / Shadow Priest / Restoration Druid
Thug Cleave without Discipline Priest: Rogue / Hunter / Healer
Hunter / Death Knight / Discipline Priest
Rogue / Mage / Restoration Shaman
Warlock / Mage / Restoration Shaman
Warlock / Mage / Restoration Druid
Feral / Hunter / Discipline Priest
Warrior / Shadow Priest / Healer
Death Knight / Shadow Priest / Restoration Shaman
Feral / Shadow Priest / Restoration Shaman

 

[tuanha]

Hello.

I dont know what is happening with CR. Sometimes it heal like crazy and do awsome work. Sometimes not (more often).
With balance bar set to 0 (default) i have all the time 100% mana. With bar set to 10, toon cast almost all the time radiance - it burn mana fast, but its not make any good hps. At TOT25HC im last at table, and rest paladins have 30-50% more heal. Sometimes tanks are higher than me (im 515ilvl). I guess balance bar is only for faster or slower mana burn - its not affecting hps.

My tyrael settings are 30TPS, and all optione unticked.
CR settings - raid default, all cd manually. Balance 1-10 (all settings sucks)

If anyone have good settings for 25hc, please share it.

Looking at your log, CR do a perfect rotation of Holy Radiance + Holy Shock for holy power and use it on Light of Dawn at start.

Then there a lot of error that make CR do nothing and that the reason your healing low.

I bug fixed few revision back, I suggest you update to the lastest SVN and when IF you see a lot of red error text, pls restart combat routine.

 

[devilady]

I check if there is update every day. I have latest revision.
And, moreover, I'm restarting hb, almost every single try.

 

[gvaukjoe]

hi, can you add me to skype, got few quesiton please

gvaukjoe

 

[tijj]

Pallys are currently the worst healers for PvP, arena specifically.
It's been said by countless top players and it shows from the lack of pallys past 2200

Shams/Disc/Resto Druids are the top dogs.

In fact, here's the best comps that are most likely to get rank 1 as said by Vanguards (best ret pally to ever play) and a few other multi glad players.

Tier 1
Thug Cleave: Rogue / Hunter / Discipline Priest
Shattertree: Shadow Priest / Mage / Restoration Druid
Shatterplay: Shadow Priest / Mage / Restoration Shaman
RPS: Rogue / Shadow Priest / Restoration Shaman

Then the next,

Tier 2
RMP: Rogue / Mage / Discipline Priest
RPD: Rogue / Shadow Priest / Restoration Druid
Thug Cleave without Discipline Priest: Rogue / Hunter / Healer
Hunter / Death Knight / Discipline Priest
Rogue / Mage / Restoration Shaman
Warlock / Mage / Restoration Shaman
Warlock / Mage / Restoration Druid
Feral / Hunter / Discipline Priest
Warrior / Shadow Priest / Healer
Death Knight / Shadow Priest / Restoration Shaman
Feral / Shadow Priest / Restoration Shaman

You are talking about the very best Glads here, I promise you that Holy Paladins are still viable, that they are under represented right now is no reason to not play one. The comps you are talking about have better synergy with other healers but many can be played with a Holy Paladin, especially melee comps.

 

[xLegendx]

You are talking about the very best Glads here, I promise you that Holy Paladins are still viable, that they are under represented right now is no reason to not play one. The comps you are talking about have better synergy with other healers but many can be played with a Holy Paladin, especially melee comps.

There's a Korean team that plays on US servers and they got to like 2450 with Boomkin/Affliction Lock/Holy Pally
They do get farmed by anything with a spriest basically but, still very impressive.

That's the only holy pally that I've seen reach such a high rating this patch, but maybe it will be different in 5.3. It's almost like a whole new game for PvP. It'll be interesting to see.

I just don't see a holy pally getting Rank 1-5 over all at this current state.
Which means it will be even harder for a bot to get over 2200 in arena as a pally.

I still think Shams/Priests/Druids are in a better position than a holly pally, its just the current state of the game.

And if TuanHA where to ever make a Shaman CC, I will give him seem really good feedback on how to make the CC play like a 2.2k+ player. I know the class pretty decently and watch cdew stream a lot (considered one of the best resto shamans in the game)
Enhance... I'm not too sure about but, it doesn't seem that hard. It does looks fun to play though.


Edit: Since I will be switching to ret and possibly wasting all my conquest points on a ret set. How is it? I know the holy has always been amazing but, I never got to test the ret CC in MoP and there has been A LOT of changes since Cata lol

 

[mnipper]

Tuanha, are you still developing Framelock support?

 

[tijj]

There's a Korean team that plays on US servers and they got to like 2450 with Boomkin/Affliction Lock/Holy Pally
They do get farmed by anything with a spriest basically but, still very impressive.

That's the only holy pally that I've seen reach such a high rating this patch, but maybe it will be different in 5.3. It's almost like a whole new game for PvP. It'll be interesting to see.

I just don't see a holy pally getting Rank 1-5 over all at this current state.
Which means it will be even harder for a bot to get over 2200 in arena as a pally.

I still think Shams/Priests/Druids are in a better position than a holly pally, its just the current state of the game.

And if TuanHA where to ever make a Shaman CC, I will give him seem really good feedback on how to make the CC play like a 2.2k+ player. I know the class pretty decently and watch cdew stream a lot (considered one of the best resto shamans in the game)
Enhance... I'm not too sure about but, it doesn't seem that hard. It does looks fun to play though.


Edit: Since I will be switching to ret and possibly wasting all my conquest points on a ret set. How is it? I know the holy has always been amazing but, I never got to test the ret CC in MoP and there has been A LOT of changes since Cata lol

Honestly your logic is a little off here, if your looking at getting to the crazy heights of 2400+ then it will be based purely on your skill level, not playing flavour of the month comps. 2200 is reachable by any viable comp that has synergy with your class, so if your struggling as a holy paladin then rethink the comp. Id suggest PHD or even KFC is still fairly strong.

Also, RET is horrible right now, swapping from Holy to Ret is a bad move for you.

 

[madhu89]

has anything changed recently in last few days, i usually use this routine for questing aswell, setting it as full afk, but recently i been getting targetting errors, it's still targeting the mobs after they r dead. and if i use singular, i am not having this prob.
i updated this routine so, i do have the latest version, special edition

 

[beire74]

With the previous public version i always topped the healing meter in LFR and never had mana issues, with this version i run out of mana halfway some fights.
And my gear has improved also in the meantime so thats not the problem.

 

[mnipper]

With the previous public version i always topped the healing meter in LFR and never had mana issues, with this version i run out of mana halfway some fights.
And my gear has improved also in the meantime so thats not the problem.

Sounds like you need to adjust your settings to not run out of mana so fast. Try setting your Holy Radiance a bit lower. CR is fine. It just needs adjusting to suit your gear/encounter.

 

[xLegendx]

Honestly your logic is a little off here, if your looking at getting to the crazy heights of 2400+ then it will be based purely on your skill level, not playing flavour of the month comps. 2200 is reachable by any viable comp that has synergy with your class, so if your struggling as a holy paladin then rethink the comp. Id suggest PHD or even KFC is still fairly strong.

Also, RET is horrible right now, swapping from Holy to Ret is a bad move for you.

True 2.2k is possible by almost any comp as long as you are well geared and of course know what you are doing. It's just easier for some comps to get there than some of the "shitty" comps.

 

[cedricdu94]

I have a error

System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at TuanHA_Paladin.Classname.GetPredictedHealth(WoWUnit unit, Boolean includeMyHeals) in e:\Compressed\Honorbuddy 2.5.6948.557\Routines\TuanHAPaladinSpecialEdition\THHelpers.cs:line 2165
at TuanHA_Paladin.Classname.GetPredictedHealthPercent(WoWUnit unit, Boolean includeMyHeals) in e:\Compressed\Honorbuddy 2.5.6948.557\Routines\TuanHAPaladinSpecialEdition\THHelpers.cs:line 2184
at TuanHA_Paladin.Classname.<GetUnitHeal>b__4(Object ) in e:\Compressed\Honorbuddy 2.5.6948.557\Routines\TuanHAPaladinSpecialEdition\THCombat.cs:line 297
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[21:54:25.268 D] System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at TuanHA_Paladin.Classname.GetPredictedHealth(WoWUnit unit, Boolean includeMyHeals) in e:\Compressed\Honorbuddy 2.5.6948.557\Routines\TuanHAPaladinSpecialEdition\THHelpers.cs:line 2165
at TuanHA_Paladin.Classname.GetPredictedHealthPercent(WoWUnit unit, Boolean includeMyHeals) in e:\Compressed\Honorbuddy 2.5.6948.557\Routines\TuanHAPaladinSpecialEdition\THHelpers.cs:line 2184
at TuanHA_Paladin.Classname.<GetUnitHeal>b__4(Object ) in e:\Compressed\Honorbuddy 2.5.6948.557\Routines\TuanHAPaladinSpecialEdition\THCombat.cs:line 297
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[21:54:25.268 D] Cleared POI - Reason Exception in Root.Tick()
[21:54:25.268 D] Cleared POI