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TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

tuanha said:
Ret PvP is fully tweaked.

While afk bgbuddy, I got whisper "ur really good", that a bit embrassing :P but it true because Ret hand of freedom, hand of protection, hand of sac remove cc, heal teammate like a sir just now :D
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finally you got sac to work wil it also hand of sac on a target that gets sheeped? and wil it also work in holy not only ret?
 
Only Ret spec hand of sac remove cc, holy can't

That the way blizzard design how that spell work on depend on spec
 
tuanha said:
Only Ret spec hand of sac remove cc, holy can't

That the way blizzard design how that spell work on depend on spec
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Your ilvl? Can you share your settings.. i will try later some bgs.. but i die so much.. ilvl 480..
 
Try TuanHA Retribution Paladin PvP.xml in User Setting Folder.

I set FoL me to 75% WoG to 60%

I start healing myself early, sure dps is lower but I stay alive and enemy will die eventually.
 
Hey Tuanha,

I posted earlier but that post seems gone now. I have a question about HolyPower. When doing dungeons as Holypala the CR keeps using spells to build up HolyPower. But when the power is full, it keeps using spells over and over.
This looks really "bad" out of combat and I wonder if there is an option to turn this off? Or just make it stop when it reaches full power.

Second issue is that it seems to overheal alot in lower levels (I don't know if it is the same on higher lvls but I guess it is) because it doesn't stop the casts when the targets HP reaches an OK %. Checking my data for most of the dungeons the total heal is around 30-50k and overheal 100k mostly because it cast heals that isn't neccesary in some situations.
It's quite hard to explain but what I'm looking for is something that checks the targets HP even while casting heal and if the target is in the "OK %" (maybe because it got an selfheal or heals from another source) it will stop the cast instead of wasting the heal/mana.

Mirabilis MAD Druid CR got this implemented for example.

Do you think it's possible to add here too?

EDIT: Seems to spam Holy Shock and Sacred Shield OOC to build up HolyPower.

EDIT2: It seems to stop some spells to save mana (even when balance is 0) but Holy Light and some other heals isn't stopped.
 
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Hey Tuanha,

I'm using you're PVP settings on the Special Edition and I notice in BG's it just does nothing but stand around for a good 10 sec when people are under 50% health.

This is for Holy Spec.
 
rcon33 said:
Hey Tuanha,

I'm using you're PVP settings on the Special Edition and I notice in BG's it just does nothing but stand around for a good 10 sec when people are under 50% health.

This is for Holy Spec.
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This is the same for my ret spec. i have auto move and auto target on but doesnt do anything
 
tuanha said:
Try delete all and svn update again... your settings file is broken.

@do nothing bug: nothing I can do without log. I just run a rbg and it top healing as always.
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anything you change in you're file? and the only time I ever see it spam holy light is when i'm out of combat...
 
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Can't get this cc to work on my ret pally with any of the honorbuddy bots public release only seems to work on the beta version what could be the reason for this?
 
aeus said:
Hey Tuanha,

I posted earlier but that post seems gone now. I have a question about HolyPower. When doing dungeons as Holypala the CR keeps using spells to build up HolyPower. But when the power is full, it keeps using spells over and over.
This looks really "bad" out of combat and I wonder if there is an option to turn this off? Or just make it stop when it reaches full power.

Second issue is that it seems to overheal alot in lower levels (I don't know if it is the same on higher lvls but I guess it is) because it doesn't stop the casts when the targets HP reaches an OK %. Checking my data for most of the dungeons the total heal is around 30-50k and overheal 100k mostly because it cast heals that isn't neccesary in some situations.
It's quite hard to explain but what I'm looking for is something that checks the targets HP even while casting heal and if the target is in the "OK %" (maybe because it got an selfheal or heals from another source) it will stop the cast instead of wasting the heal/mana.

Mirabilis MAD Druid CR got this implemented for example.

Do you think it's possible to add here too?

EDIT: Seems to spam Holy Shock and Sacred Shield OOC to build up HolyPower.

EDIT2: It seems to stop some spells to save mana (even when balance is 0) but Holy Light and some other heals isn't stopped.
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Unless tuanha has changed something i'm pretty sure his CR already has the over heal protection that you described above.

AS for the generating holy power out of combat, all Pro paladins do this there is no better way to start a fight then with full holy power. (but yes a check like "we have full holy power, stop generating" would be good...there may already be an option for this have not used the CR in a while.

I'm assuming most of your over healing would be Beacon?
 
aeus said:
Hey Tuanha,

I posted earlier but that post seems gone now. I have a question about HolyPower. When doing dungeons as Holypala the CR keeps using spells to build up HolyPower. But when the power is full, it keeps using spells over and over.
This looks really "bad" out of combat and I wonder if there is an option to turn this off? Or just make it stop when it reaches full power.

Second issue is that it seems to overheal alot in lower levels (I don't know if it is the same on higher lvls but I guess it is) because it doesn't stop the casts when the targets HP reaches an OK %. Checking my data for most of the dungeons the total heal is around 30-50k and overheal 100k mostly because it cast heals that isn't neccesary in some situations.
It's quite hard to explain but what I'm looking for is something that checks the targets HP even while casting heal and if the target is in the "OK %" (maybe because it got an selfheal or heals from another source) it will stop the cast instead of wasting the heal/mana.

Mirabilis MAD Druid CR got this implemented for example.

Do you think it's possible to add here too?

EDIT: Seems to spam Holy Shock and Sacred Shield OOC to build up HolyPower.

EDIT2: It seems to stop some spells to save mana (even when balance is 0) but Holy Light and some other heals isn't stopped.
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+1up this post!

Everything that Aeus has mentioned seems to be accurate. In regards to PVP, the cc seems to spam heal/dps mindlessly wasting mana. When another player?s health drops, the cc continues to heal me when I?m at 100% health and/or have full holy power, thus, the player dies. I?ve messed with the settings, set everything to default, deleted and reinstalled the cc, but nothing seems to work.

Cheers,
Cobra
 
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TuanHa,

Great profile. I loved your public CR so much that i just had to make a donation and am now enjoying your special edition version. It is absolutely amazing. Thank you very much for all your hard work!

I would like to maximize the benefits of Daybreak however and i'm not sure how to go about doing so. If i'm casting Holy Radiance and picking up the Daybreak buff, it seems like a terrible waste to cast ANOTHER HR instead of a Holy Shock and THEN an HR if still necessary. Especially when you consider the T15 bonuses (or even the dbl 2-pc bonuses). Is there a way to force Holy Shock to be cast after a Holy Radiance cast (provided it's not on cd)? Or maybe i've overlooked a setting somewhere?
 
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I just don't see anything extreme about this for PVP, people at 40% health and it just does nothing, i have to step in and spam flash heal cuz this thing just wants to use one heal then stop 10 sec then use another.. I can spam flash heals faster then this thing...
 
Ok we here go :

Talents
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Speed of Light
Fist of Justice
Eternal Flame
Clemency
Holy Avenger
Light of Hammer

Glyphs
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Beacon Light
Divine Plea
Protector of Inocent

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Item gear level : 518

Ok whit this settings i am always top healing in my raid, and rank sometimes in WOL. Is a burn healing mana settings, so if you dont have too many spirit or good reg trinkets, you mest move Heal Balancing to 0 or less.

Use Devotion aura manually and configure Light hammer like you wish.

If you have any dude, you can ask all that you like

P.D : Whit this settings i clean all ToT normal and now hare wipe all days in 6/12 HM
 
OK let me say that this is great now that i kinda got it to work. I'm using combat bot, clicking on the target i wanna kill and letting it go ham, But I have to steer and move. I tried to you Lazy Raider like suggested and followed the picture. but when i hit start with it after queing up i still have to move and target even if i have them selected to auto
 
Well I test again and again new build and I honestly I don't know what you guy complain about... this is the FASTEST build ever made and reaction is really fast. Most people say "it do nothing" and there no log to prove anything and you already know without log, there ABSOLUTELY no way to detect and fix possible bug because I'm testing it and there's no bug at all.

For people complaining about it holy shock for nothing, please take a look at my log.
[04:38:43.679 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 58
[04:38:43.695 N] 43:695 HP: 100% Mana: 100 (4 hp) Monk 7.25y 100% hp Holy Shock
[04:38:48.326 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20925, KnownIndex: 66
[04:38:48.345 N] 48:345 HP: 100% Mana: 100 (5 hp) Myself 0y 100% hp Sacred Shield
[04:38:54.588 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 58
[04:38:54.604 N] 54:604 HP: 100% Mana: 100 (4 hp) Monk 2.95y 100% hp Holy Shock
[04:39:04.919 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 58
[04:39:04.932 N] 04:932 HP: 100% Mana: 100 (4 hp) Monk 9.08y 100% hp Holy Shock
[04:39:15.400 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 20473, KnownIndex: 58
[04:39:15.416 N] 15:416 HP: 100% Mana: 100 (4 hp) Monk 7.76y 100% hp Holy Shock
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Combat Routine use smart logic to keep 5 holy power to get ready to combat big heal. As you can see, there's a steady 1 holy shock every 10 sec right after your holy power drop to 4 when I was in bg start area.

Chance are CR faster than you, it recognize Holy Power drop to 4 (before you see it) and Holy Shock to keep 5 stack. Because you didn't see you Holy Power drop to 4 so you think it Holy Shock for nothing, in fact it doing his job.
 
Thanks Clubwar for the updated settings, what Botbase are you running with? If you're using Tyrael are you rolling with Framelock enabled? and how many TPS? Any tips on reforging?
 
weedee said:
Thanks Clubwar for the updated settings, what Botbase are you running with? If you're using Tyrael are you rolling with Framelock enabled? and how many TPS? Any tips on reforging?
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Sorry i don put this informaci?n.

I use Tyrael 100 tps ( hace a good computer) and no framelock.

Reforging all mastery that you can take, i use askmyrobot and edit weights

Haste - 0.76 (just above Spirit's weight)
Soft cap - 0.1366 (this is the '13.66%' that is mentioned, but I'll agree this wasn't all that clear)
Soft cap weight - 0.35 (it's 'normal' weight)
 
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