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TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

Beastmode2 said:
TuanHA,

I've noticed that with cleanse harmful debuff's immediately and having it set to 1 in a raid setting seems to slow down the Routines quickness healing overall. Any thoughts on how to improve this? Something unavoidable from the CR going through and check everyone for debuffs then healing? (Note this was in 25man, also was on revision 328)

Thanks!
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This is something we have to accept when healing 25 man. There's no other way to detect debuff to cleanse without scanning through 25 man.

If you enable Cleanse lose control asap AND set cleanse to 1 that basically a waste of resource because you scan 2 time to do 1 job.

The cleanse logic work like this:

1. Check for cleanse important debuff first and cleanse if needed (cleanse high priority - good for PvP like cleanse fear before healing)
2. If no cleanse important debuff to cleanse needed, Check heal and heal if needed
3. If no heal needed, check for normal debuff cleanse and cleanse if needed (cleanse low priority - good for general cleansing)

In raid if you want to cleanse everything, I advise disable Cleanse Lose Control and Enable and Set normal cleanse to 1
In raid if you want to cleanse just important debuff, I advise Enable Cleanse Lose Control and Disable and normal cleanse
 
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tuanha said:
This is something we have to accept when healing 25 man. There's no other way to detect debuff to cleanse without scanning through 25 man.

If you enable Cleanse lose control asap AND set cleanse to 1 that basically a waste of resource because you scan 2 time to do 1 job.

The cleanse logic work like this:

1. Check for cleanse important debuff first and cleanse if needed (cleanse high priority - good for PvP like cleanse fear before healing)
2. If no cleanse important debuff to cleanse needed, Check heal and heal if needed
3. If no heal needed, check for normal debuff cleanse and cleanse if needed (cleanse low priority - good for general cleansing)

In raid if you want to cleanse everything, I advise disable Cleanse Lose Control and Enable and Set normal cleanse to 1
In raid if you want to cleanse just important debuff, I advise Enable Cleanse Lose Control and Disable and normal cleanse
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If it isnt problem - paste that at first screen. It's very valuable info about cleanse mechanic.
 
tuanha said:
This is something we have to accept when healing 25 man. There's no other way to detect debuff to cleanse without scanning through 25 man.

If you enable Cleanse lose control asap AND set cleanse to 1 that basically a waste of resource because you scan 2 time to do 1 job.

The cleanse logic work like this:

1. Check for cleanse important debuff first and cleanse if needed (cleanse high priority - good for PvP like cleanse fear before healing)
2. If no cleanse important debuff to cleanse needed, Check heal and heal if needed
3. If no heal needed, check for normal debuff cleanse and cleanse if needed (cleanse low priority - good for general cleansing)

In raid if you want to cleanse everything, I advise disable Cleanse Lose Control and Enable and Set normal cleanse to 1
In raid if you want to cleanse just important debuff, I advise Enable Cleanse Lose Control and Disable and normal cleanse
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TBH, Using healbot or clique its general better to cleanse your self and let the bot concentrate on healing and CD's... Its very easy to do with either of those addons.
 
devilady said:
If it isnt problem - paste that at first screen. It's very valuable info about cleanse mechanic.
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Wish I have time to make proper document on all my 5 routine... I don't have even time to update my own website... people keep asking for better CR everyday lol :D
 
tuanha said:
This is something we have to accept when healing 25 man. There's no other way to detect debuff to cleanse without scanning through 25 man.

If you enable Cleanse lose control asap AND set cleanse to 1 that basically a waste of resource because you scan 2 time to do 1 job.

The cleanse logic work like this:

1. Check for cleanse important debuff first and cleanse if needed (cleanse high priority - good for PvP like cleanse fear before healing)
2. If no cleanse important debuff to cleanse needed, Check heal and heal if needed
3. If no heal needed, check for normal debuff cleanse and cleanse if needed (cleanse low priority - good for general cleansing)

In raid if you want to cleanse everything, I advise disable Cleanse Lose Control and Enable and Set normal cleanse to 1
In raid if you want to cleanse just important debuff, I advise Enable Cleanse Lose Control and Disable and normal cleanse
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I dont undertand this configuration that you say, can you put a SS or steps please?

Last night in second boss of new raid, have to many magic that i need dispell but CC dont dispell nothing, and i go manually do it. Have you update dispell list??

I always say that in the 99% of case, are more important dispell, that use a heal, and this boss is a exactly example.
 
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Clubwar said:
I dont undertand this configuration that you say, can you put a SS or steps please?

Last night in second boss of new raid, have to many magic that i need dispell but CC dont dispell nothing, and i go manually do it. Have you update dispell list??

I always say that in the 99% of case, are more important dispell, that use a heal, and this boss is a exactly example.
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I need the list to dispel, please give me.

The reason it doen't dispel but heal is because of the above logic:

1. Can't find to dispel (because list not updated)
2. Heal (because ppl need it)
3. Normal debuff never reached because it heal already
 
tuanha said:
I need the list to dispel, please give me.

The reason it doen't dispel but heal is because of the above logic:

1. Can't find to dispel (because list not updated)
2. Heal (because ppl need it)
3. Normal debuff never reached because it heal already
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Ok bro,

Farraki

Stone Gaze - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Dispell instant

Blazing Sunlight - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Dispell instant

Dino-Mending - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Stop Casting

Gurubashi

Salva de Descarga de t?sigo - Hechizo - World of Warcraft -> Dispell instant / Stop Casting

Drakaki

Deadly Plague - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Dispell Instant

Amani

Hex of Confusion - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Dispell

Fireball - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Stop Casting

Chain Lightning - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Stop Casting

And i search the option for " Cleanse Lose Control and Enable and Set normal cleanse to 1 " and i dont see this in Special Edition
 
Clubwar said:
Ok bro,

Farraki

Stone Gaze - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Dispell instant

Blazing Sunlight - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Dispell instant

Dino-Mending - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Stop Casting

Gurubashi

Salva de Descarga de tósigo - Hechizo - World of Warcraft -> Dispell instant / Stop Casting

Drakaki


Deadly Plague - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Dispell Instant

Amani

Hex of Confusion - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Dispell

Fireball - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Stop Casting

Chain Lightning - Spell - World of Warcraft -> Stop Casting

And i search the option for " Cleanse Lose Control and Enable and Set normal cleanse to 1 " and i dont see this in Special Edition
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New revision on special edition add spell that need dispel as soon as possible from new raid content.

Thank clubwar
 
that Gurubashi debuff seems to be in some other language then english client have? Or am i mistaken?
 
Awesome :D gonna do guildrun for the first time now...hope all works ::S always nervous when new ptch launches......i cant play my pally by hand anymore ...thanks to you! :D :D have to fake dc if shit doesnt work or so :S hehe
 
hey how is the protection going im decided to go holy and protection as with prot you get quicker dungeons and wil just need on holy gear wil the cc cast [Avenger's Shield] on distance?
 
Is there news templates for 5.2 for your routine? ?
Or the templates in first topic are the best actualy ? (yes i love to have perfect template for max dps )
 
how can u use this in raid ? ... hb is always tellin me tilemap is null :(
 
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