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TuanHA Monk - The Ultimate Experience

CrazyJosh said:
There's a setting for that.

I posted asking for an experienced brewmaster to contact me! Where were you! I had to go by what I thought worked and what my research could result in. I'll get the rotation updated.
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Sorry, must have missed that. While you're updating the rotation, could you work Blackout Kick into it as early as possible? Ideally before the 3x Tiger Palm, just to proc Shuffle (20% Parry).

When I'm not lazy, and tank manually, I open with Keg Smash > Blackout Kick (for Stagger) > Tiger Palm x3 (for Power Guard)> Jab (1x with Power Strikes talent, otherwise 2x) > Guard. After the opening rotation it's just a case of keeping Shuffle up with Blackout Kick, keeping Power Guard up with Tiger Palm, casting Guard when it's off cooldown and Purifying stagger.

I only use Breath of Fire if Shuffle is up and the target has Dizzying Haze, otherwise I just spam Blackout Kick. I'm also quite a heavy Chi Wave user (I have it Macro'd to cast on myself, instead of the target, as this means I always get the first heal). If Shuffle is up, and the targets are already burning from Breath of Fire, Chi Wave is my next Chi dump. I almost never use Spinning Crane kick on trash, as it locks out all abilities (including "oh shit" buttons like Fortifying Brew), I find the Dizzying Haze proc from Keg Smash, and Breath of Fire is more than enough for aoe threat.

When raiding, Chi Wave (with Vengeance Stacked High) is so ridiculously powerful that I usually just use it on cooldown.

Also, it's important to have "Power Guard" at 3 stacks before Guard is used. So if you could work it into the rotation to keep 3x Power Guard up (Power Guard is procced from Tiger Palm in the same way as "Tiger Power", and increases the damage absorption of Guard by 15% at 3 stacks. The "Power Guard" buff lasts 30 seconds, but is removed when Guard is cast, so you need to cast Tiger Palm x3 before the next Guard is cast in order to get the +15% absorb).

You can also have Tiger Palm as a filler while waiting for Energy to replenish and no Chi orbs are available, since it costs nothing to use.

BTW, excellent work so far. This is easily the best Monk CC I've tried. And the fact that you guys are so keen on improving it makes me really glad I donated.

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Cheesybeans, maybe you should contact josh directly via skype to help out with the ratations, since you seem to be an competent brewmaster?
 
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Cheesybeans said:
Sorry, must have missed that. While you're updating the rotation, could you work Blackout Kick into it as early as possible? Ideally before the 3x Tiger Palm, just to proc Shuffle (20% Parry).

When I'm not lazy, and tank manually, I open with Keg Smash > Blackout Kick (for Stagger) > Tiger Palm x3 (for Power Guard)> Jab (1x with Power Strikes talent, otherwise 2x) > Guard

Also, it's important to have "Power Guard" at 3 stacks before Guard is used. So if you could work it into the rotation to keep 3x Power Guard up (Power Guard is procced from Tiger Palm in the same way as "Tiger Power", and increases the damage absorption of Guard by 15% at 3 stacks. The "Power Guard" buff lasts 30 seconds, but is removed when Guard is cast, so you need to cast Tiger Palm x3 before the next Guard is cast in order to get the +15% absorb).

You can also have Tiger Palm as a filler while waiting for Energy to replenish and no Chi orbs are available, since it costs nothing to use.

BTW, excellent work so far. This is easily the best Monk CC I've tried. And the fact that you guys are so keen on improving it makes me really glad I donated.
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Exactly this. And on raid fights where you need to keep stagger up as much as possible (blackout kick), My rotation tends to be (for raid boss):

Keg Smash > Blackout kick > Tiger palm x3 > Jab > Guard > Keg smash > Blackout kick

And take it from there, trying to keep guard up for big bursts or at least having it prepared, whilst keeping Blackout kick Shuffle buff up as much as possible too.

The difference for trash/packs is I fit a Breath of fire instead of the blackout kick initially & try to keep the DoT active as much as possible on trash without affecting guard & shuffle too much.

But definitely, using Keg smash more would be sweet, Using Jab twice when we have Keg smash on CD, a nice Shuffle uptime, & three stacks of the Power Guard (from Tiger palm) Would be nice as it then allows us to do a Breath of fire, a guard or Blackout kick.

-Grim
 
zeroed said:
Chill out,most of us are using donator version for obvious reasons,give them some time to fix it.After such major update its normal to have bugs,which are gui mostly i think.
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That's why we report it right, so that the devs can fix it? or am I wrong?
 
Yeah,thats the idea but can we make difference between reporting,crying,raging around?

likelive said:
I buy and special edition Today !

I am Windwalker and use BGBuddy for PVP.

The bot don?t use Jab !!!!!

At Brewmaster works Jab !
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This aint reporting.
 
Also (sorry if this is too much), I've noticed that the CC isn't casting Elusive Brew when Guard is up (probably because the player isn't taking any damage and it doesn't feel it has to), even at 15 stacks.

From my experience, it's more beneficial to use Elusive Brew even if Guard is currently active, as avoiding attacks during Guard effectively increases Guard's uptime and minimises the time between Guard fading and coming off cooldown (which reduces the "squishy time" that Monks endure when Guard isn't active).

Some people think the opposite is better, gaining Elusive Brew stacks when Guard is up, then using them when the bubble fades to "even-out" the incoming damage in the long term. So maybe have an option for personal preference?

"Use Elusive Brew when Guard is active?" Tick/Untick

In either case, the CC should always cast Elusive Brew when capped at 15 stacks and damage is being absorbed through Guard (or other absorption abilities) and then be allowed to re-stack.
 
Anyone else experiencing frame drops every couple of seconds in raids? I've tried another CC and it ran smoothly. I'm gonna try rev6 (think that was the last rev before the big update) to see if it does the same.
 
mocbar said:
yes it does, but there is no dps increase from it, and i find the game choppier than with lazyrider
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I noticed that too when using Tyrael and FrameLock enabled. LazyRader gives little frame issues. I have thought of some ideas to clear up some of the lag today - will try it out tonight.
 
Hey guys trying to use this in mixed mode with dungeons.

I've got aoe toggle checked (as I chose full afk profile) but watching it - never seems to use spinning crane kick on big groups of mobs in dungeons. Can anyone help?
 
maceyp said:
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Here is a Screenshot of my 25man Raid Settings. Fistweaver i just leave it on all the time and let the mana % do its part :)
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So whats the point of fistweaving if you don't enable Blackout kick?
I really dont get what it is doing. As i remember last night.
If i have jab/bok disabled fistweaving have no effect. If both jab/bok enabled and fistweaving on he will bok the last few second before serpent zeal run off, if fistweaving is disabled he won't bok at all.

Can someone explain it to me.
 
Since I updated the CR just a couple of hours ago I can no longer make it use Jab as MW.
Have no idea why, but I've tried changing the settings off and on, but nothing helps as far as I can see.

Anyone else having this problem?
 
Bug: I have Ctrl + A set to toggle my AoE on & off. Whilst this is what is was set to pre-major update. Now absolutely randomly when I'm pressing just a, it will turn AoE off. So I tried rebinding it & using Ctrl+ whatever does not toggle aoe on or off. So I tested Ctrl + a see if it turned it on or off. It doesn't, it is solely random whilst I pressed A.

-Grim
 
Bot not AOE in dungeon (AOE is on) and I keep getting him running about before entering combat in circles spamming (out of range).

I can't see what he's trying to use.

Can anybody help here?
 
anyone can help me whit mw setting for arena for some reason doesnt seem to work very good atm i try crazy battleground setup seem to work good but when i enter arena it seem to not casting anything if u need log will post or it just might be my setting not that he doesnt cast but isnt kinda weird
 
As far as for the hotkeys for Fistweave and AoE, they do not work correctly for me either. pressing them (ctrl+a and ctrl+f) and i do not get the audio or the warning in my chat text
 

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