TuanHA Monk - The Ultimate Experience

[Thang781]

I'm also wondering if it will support DPS for mistweavers when we solo.

why would you want to do this anyway?

 

[eigoteacher]

why would you want to do this anyway?

Does it matter?

 

[beatem]

Now that I sent him a donation for Special Edition, I gotta wait for him to send me back a SVN link, right?

 

[tuanha]

can we have an answer on this plz? as tank and dd the CR is not hitting elegon or any other bigger flying encounter.

The problem come from HB API which didn't give the correct distance value on flying mobs.

There is a fix for that with extra code but we are hesitant to bring it in because it will slow down the whole CR. And I think not everyone want a low performance CR on average just to fight the 2 bosses.

The best option is waiting for HB fix it (not sure if new HB release today - version .511 already fix it)

 

[explicit]

Hey tuanha,
first of all, nice work.
I've got a question, on your website you state that "special edition" supports arena.
What does this mean? You move yourself, and cr is doing all the abilities?
Or can you tell it to just counter special things, rest is done manually?
thanks for the explanation,
explicit.

edit: and what can you expect from it?

 

[Pasdamour]

explicit its simple u go in arena u press start whit tuahna profile atm at 31/4 ratio whit my wife not gonna lie she s a gurl and terabad but she cant die whit this u do the moving cc do the healing counter spell if u near target stunt and can assist u on dps on need all u gonna see is ur rating go higher and enemy team rating go -14

 

[tuanha]

Hey tuanha,
first of all, nice work.
I've got a question, on your website you state that "special edition" supports arena.
What does this mean? You move yourself, and cr is doing all the abilities?
Or can you tell it to just counter special things, rest is done manually?
thanks for the explanation,
explicit.

edit: and what can you expect from it?

Yes, you select LazyRaider as the botbase then press start, the CR routine select the best spell and cast at the right time for you.

 

[explicit]

Hah, please one serious answer.
Don't expect to loot gladiator, but I'm simply interested in what's meant by arena support.

There are a lot of issues, like having a mate you need to time your cc's with and stuff like that. so you would need to be able to configure a whole lot of stuff. good would be hitting a key which makes you counter the next enemy cast, or hit a key that makes you stun the target once it gets to, lets say, about 65% and, afterwards starting the burst.

but if everything goes fully automatically i dont think botting in arena will get you anywhere but to low rating.

so i'd really appreciate one serious answer. no trolling, thanks

 

[Pasdamour]

no trolling just put ur crowd control on focus macroc u still need to kit etc its not gonna get u to glad unless u help it

 

[nevigrofnu]

Soothing mist 40
Surging mist 35
Life Cocoon 30
Renewing Mist 100
Enveloping Mist 0
Uplift 5 Units Below 95
Spinning Crane Kick 5 Units below 90
Jab to 3 Chi
Statue Disabled

I never ever ever go oom or even close to it.

Most fights I turn soothing/surging off all together.

I see, so by setting surging and soothing to low amounts and setting jab to 3 you rely on other things to make up the healing, that's a very good idea! Thanks for sharing! What bosses do you turn them off on? I hate soothing, it's so shit lol

 

[sainter222]

I really need some help, the cC is great, i love the healing.

All i want to be able to do is to have the bot follow the tank in a 5man heroic dungeon.

I tried dungeonbuddy but that doesnt work at all (regarding movement)
I tried party bot, it still wont follow tank!
I tried grindbot, still wont follow tank!

How can i make my bot follow the tank? or the party?

 

[txd]

I see, so by setting surging and soothing to low amounts and setting jab to 3 you rely on other things to make up the healing, that's a very good idea! Thanks for sharing! What bosses do you turn them off on? I hate soothing, it's so shit lol

Soothing and Surging are both terrible for mana efficiency and are both tank healing abilities, and a good monk will never be tank healing, we are bad at it compared to all the other healing classes.

If you look at the parses on worldoflogs and you look at the healing spells used for all the top monk healers, you almost NEVER see soothing or surging or enveloping mist being used.

We are raid healers, and the only time I would turn soothing and surging on is for encounters that require you to be at range, or fights that are more convenient to be at range, like the last boss in MSV.

Regardless, the CC is not optimized to use Surging and Enveloping right now, it dosn't ensure soothing is being channeled before it casts either spell, so most of the time it ends up casting them with the cast time instead of instant.

Those settings I posted are optimal and are what I use for almost every encounter in MSV and Heart of Fear. I'm currently 6/6 and 3/6 and I am always top of the healing meters and rarely drop below 50% mana. Just make sure you are in melee range for the bosses, and the CC will Jab Jab Uplift like it should, the only thing I have to do manually sometimes is cast renewing mist because the CC will not cast it if all the raid members are sitting at 100% during some encounters, the 3rd boss in heart of fear is a good example, the raid is at 100% quite a bit for the first half of the fight and the CC will not cast renewing mist on cooldown.

 

[tuanha]

the raid is at 100% quite a bit for the first half of the fight and the CC will not cast renewing mist on cooldown.

I just review my code, if you set renewing mist to 100% and the bot still don't cast it on cooldown because you cap Chi. Renewing Mist give 1 chi so it pointless to cast when you at at max chi.

Sure remove this will help raid healer a bit (well this is a very rare case) but it will hurt all mistweaver in general... so I just keep it like that.

 

[Vastico]

Soothing and Surging are both terrible for mana efficiency and are both tank healing abilities, and a good monk will never be tank healing, we are bad at it compared to all the other healing classes.

If you look at the parses on worldoflogs and you look at the healing spells used for all the top monk healers, you almost NEVER see soothing or surging or enveloping mist being used.

We are raid healers, and the only time I would turn soothing and surging on is for encounters that require you to be at range, or fights that are more convenient to be at range, like the last boss in MSV.

Regardless, the CC is not optimized to use Surging and Enveloping right now, it dosn't ensure soothing is being channeled before it casts either spell, so most of the time it ends up casting them with the cast time instead of instant.

Those settings I posted are optimal and are what I use for almost every encounter in MSV and Heart of Fear. I'm currently 6/6 and 3/6 and I am always top of the healing meters and rarely drop below 50% mana. Just make sure you are in melee range for the bosses, and the CC will Jab Jab Uplift like it should, the only thing I have to do manually sometimes is cast renewing mist because the CC will not cast it if all the raid members are sitting at 100% during some encounters, the 3rd boss in heart of fear is a good example, the raid is at 100% quite a bit for the first half of the fight and the CC will not cast renewing mist on cooldown.

Thanks for post, should i set chi burst to 2 targets? Because I want to help other healers out or does jabbing do that for me?

 

[Crazyxhippo]

Is there a way you can get it to give you an option under the raid tab for us to choose either ranged or melee heal set so it will deselect the mana crushing heals while in melee such as surging and soothing? And while in ranged use them but only on low %'s?

 

[txd]

I just review my code, if you set renewing mist to 100% and the bot still don't cast it on cooldown because you cap Chi. Renewing Mist give 1 chi so it pointless to cast when you at at max chi.

Sure remove this will help raid healer a bit (well this is a very rare case) but it will hurt all mistweaver in general... so I just keep it like that.

Awsome Tuahna, thanks for clearing that up.

Another suggestion if I may,

Please please please get rid of the stance swapping for mistweaver when you get low on mana, it is absolutely pointless as the CHI gained while in Stance of the Fierce Tiger is lost as soon as you swap back to Stance of the Wise Serpent, It is much more beneficial to just autoattack the boss for eminence healing in Stance of the Wise Serpent rather than switching to the DPS stance which serves absolutely no purpose at all.

Thanks

 

[Victor9909]

I have a question about this and please dont flame me. I havnt had time to read the entire post

Does this CC for LazyRaider or Combat bot do both DPS and Healing??

if so how much is a donation is required to have the private CC?

 

[Acps]

Tuanha,

I have a suggestion. Is there anyway you can add trinket and click on use items into the routine? Being able to track trinket cds or click on use items (Engineering Synapsis). Or is there something else in HB that does this already? Thanks in advance!

anyone know about this??

 

[cahe]

Yes good suggestion to use trinket on cd If u can add this option Tuanha I use this Jade Courtesan Figurine - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

 

[CrazyJosh]

I just review my code, if you set renewing mist to 100% and the bot still don't cast it on cooldown because you cap Chi. Renewing Mist give 1 chi so it pointless to cast when you at at max chi.

Sure remove this will help raid healer a bit (well this is a very rare case) but it will hurt all mistweaver in general... so I just keep it like that.

This is taken care of (for the most part) in the upcoming (sometime tonight) Mistweaver update. It will never stay at max chi for long.

Is there a way you can get it to give you an option under the raid tab for us to choose either ranged or melee heal set so it will deselect the mana crushing heals while in melee such as surging and soothing? And while in ranged use them but only on low %'s?

I dont understand...

Yes good suggestion to use trinket on cd If u can add this option Tuanha I use this Jade Courtesan Figurine - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

Highly unlikely....use trinkets manually.