Ya, I guess it is what it is. It does some unexpected things in PVP. So I guess I'll go with the Gladiator Suite. I offered to pay [donate] for what I think would be very basic modifications that others would appreciate. No response.
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Ya, I guess it is what it is. It does some unexpected things in PVP. So I guess I'll go with the Gladiator Suite. I offered to pay [donate] for what I think would be very basic modifications that others would appreciate. No response.
i have marked it but still it didn't kill the totem's.
Blazinhazen
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I use it for feral pvp and it works quite well, it just needs to powershift properly and not leave cat form especially when it wants to cast something. Theres 0 support it seems for the claws of shirvallah talent. I used Glad Suite already and had it refunded because it suffered the same issues, but now it looks like from the latest update that was already addressed, so i may have to get it again, unless Tuanha can assure us that he is aware of the problem and is working to resolve it.
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Hi guys,
Thank for posting log and report issue.
I'm working on 6.1 version and hope all will be fixed by then
Any idea when we will be seeing the new version?
Hi guys,
Thank for posting log and report issue.
I'm working on 6.1 version and hope all will be fixed by then
Is it possible to go into the logic that your CR uses for Feral rake/rip dot application? The reason why I ask is that while this CR is pretty good about not clipping dots, it doesn't maximize dps on bloodtalons by reapplying a 5 point rip during the bloodtalons buff. I took this explanation from a high end raiding druid, and it perfectly explains how rip/rake should be refreshed in conjunction with Tiger's Fury and Bloodtalons:
In WoD Blizzard introduced a mechanic into the game called 'Pandemic', what this mechanic essentially does is take 30% of your dot's remaining duration and add it onto your refreshed dot's TOTAL duration. This essentially allows you to safely refresh your dots without losing any valuable seconds.
The pandemic thresholds are as follows:
- Rip = 7 seconds, you can safely refresh your Rip if there is less than 7s remaining
- Rake = 4 seconds, you can safely refresh your Rake if there is less than 4s remaining, it is however worth noting that you get an extra tick at 3s, so if you can wait till then, even better.
- Savage Roar = 12 seconds, you can safely refresh Savage Roar if there is less that 12 seconds remaining.
When you refresh a dot outside of these pandemic thresholds it's called 'clipping' the dot. For example, I know I can safely refresh Rip if there is < 7seconds remaining, should I refresh it at say 10 seconds, I have clipped that bleed and lost 3 seconds of its damage; resulting in lower DPS.
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Right, so now that we've got that covered, we can talk about how to BEST refresh your dots.
Ok so now you should understand how pandemic works and how it is important for managing your dot durations, let's look at Tigers Fury + Blood Talons and how they come into the whole picture.
As previously mentioned, Tiger's Fury and Blood Talons BUFF the damage of your Rip/Rake/Ferocious Bite/Shred.
A big part of playing feral is making sure that you ALWAYS use your blood talons proc with your finisher, and when possible, your rake!
Using Blood Talons to buff your finisher is very easy, what you want to do is reduce the time in between your current finisher and your NEXT finisher, this means that your 'Predator's Swiftness' buff (The buff you use to apply healing touch, thus gaining Blood Talons) does not fall off. To do this you want to POOL your energy before you use your finishers (Pooling your energy means letting it recharge as much as possible), this allows you to use your finisher and quickly follow up with another combo point generating ability, reducing the time in between them.
There are 2 situations where you can use your Blood Talons proc, when you are at 4 combo points and when you are at 5 combo points.
If there is less than 10 seconds remaining on your rake, you want to use your blood talons proc at 4cp, wait until there is < 4 seconds remaining on your rake, and use it apply a BUFFED version of your dot. You now have a remaining charge of blood talons which you can use on your finisher.
If there is > 10s remaining on your buff, you use your blood talons to first buff your FINISHER and then you wait till there < 4seconds remaining on your rake and buff that again (this would be your first combo point in the new cycle)
Still with me? Hahaha sorry this stuff can be a little complicated.
Now let's talk about Tiger's Fury, the biggest mistake you can make as a feral druid is holding on to this ability, use it ON COOLDOWN, it is far to powerful to hold in your arsenal for even a few seconds, the only exception to this if you are at 2 cp , at this point you can afford to wait until you get your 3rd THEN use your tiger's fury as this will allow you to line it up with your finisher.
Next, do I refresh Rip OUTSIDE of pandemic when I have tiger's fury up... the answer? NO! NEVER! EVER! YOU NEVER CLIP RIP!
HOWEVER, you CAN CLIP RAKE if you have tiger's fury + blood talons. Generally speaking, if you are BUFFING your current version of rake (either with blood talons or tiger's fury) it is ok to clip it.
So long story short, NEVER CLIP RIP. Clip rake if you are buffing it!
Basically it comes down to this:
If you have tiger's fury + bloodtalons up - ALWAYS REAPPLY RAKE. No matter how much of a duration is left on it.
Never refresh RIP outside of the pandemic window (7 seconds or less remaining on the current rip), however you should always try to save a bloodtalons proc to refresh Rip.
Can you explain the logic that this CR uses for rip, rake and applying either of them with the Tiger's fury and bloodtalons buff? It seems like the CR is pretty random and doesn't try to buff rip or rake with either of those buffs.
hey Tuanha, I got your major pack that incluedes all of your profiles but they don't say Special*druid,war,rogue* ext ext.... Does that mean I downloaded the wrong pack? i purchassed the special versions that's why i went all out but the folders don't say special on them they say "TuanHADruidWoD" "TuanaHARogueWoD" stuff like that? does that make any diffrence or am I actually getting the special edition and it's just not labled as that? i'm very confused because I see in the tutorial that the special editions actually say "Special Edition" and althought I downloaded the link for "Special Edition" I still get folders that say what I previously stated. Any clarification would be awesome. Thanks for working on the profiles for the update today also. Hopefully they all are in working order for when patch goes live would be cool! especially if you did something neat with the new updates. like rogue 4 piece for combat giving you 5 CP's now, Either way your very intelligent and i'm sure your doing a ton of awesome things for us. Thanks for the clarification in Advance =D
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The free version and special edition (paid) using the same file. If you have login code, it activated paid feature... it's simple like that
I'm sorry I didn't received your email, it's loss somewhere, can you please skype me directly? tuanha200vn is my skype name.
Btw, new version is ready and I hope a lot problem fixed.
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hi I was wondering if you could post the suggested talents and glyphs for the routine ty for yout time
my cr still keeps on casting lifebloom and regrowth on itself constantly ive turned off attack out of combat, disabled eat heal drink out of combat, and turned off rejuive all mana above 100.... only way I got it to stop was uncheck all the above plus lifebloom.. can you add in there a lifebloom mana above 100 checkbox to turn off?
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others asked about adding sumthing like that and told to just pause rotation when not in combat.It cast to proc clearcasting and cast regrowth to not waste clearcasting from what i can tell.
I've posted in the general thread for all your routines since I'm having the problem with all of the paid routines but I haven't gotten a response there so I'm posting here since I use the druid one the most.
I get this error now no matter what botbase I use. I am unable to use any of your routines after receiving that error the cpu utilization goes through the roof and I have to end task honorbuddy. Singularity works fine but I HATE singularity and it's limited config that never seems to do what you want it to. Anyway is there any solution to this? I've tried a complete clean install of honorbuddy but this hasn't helped. It started even before the last two WoW patches so I don't think it's patch related. Also PVE seems to work somewhat.. PVP though not at all.
I get this error now no matter what botbase I use. I am unable to use any of your routines after receiving that error the cpu utilization goes through the roof and I have to end task honorbuddy. Singularity works fine but I HATE singularity and it's limited config that never seems to do what you want it to. Anyway is there any solution to this? I've tried a complete clean install of honorbuddy but this hasn't helped. It started even before the last two WoW patches so I don't think it's patch related. Also PVE seems to work somewhat.. PVP though not at all.
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any one have a resto mana efficient setup save that uses the talent germination corectly ive been messing around but cant seem to get it working right ... and maybe a feral dps save ....also has any one figured out how to make boomkin viable dps with this yet ? thanks ahead of time
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go with clarity instead, this cr handles its procs very well in raid. as long as ur cr doesnt spam wg and uses that proc with clarity u will never go oom. I top the healing in my guild and I never oom in a fight, not even imperator
still did top heal at heroicfreddudemp
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ya ive been using clarity lols works awesome but wanted to try germination for fun and cause every one asks why i don't have it lols then qq when i beat them using less manago with clarity instead, this cr handles its procs very well in raid. as long as ur cr doesnt spam wg and uses that proc with clarity u will never go oom. I top the healing in my guild and I never oom in a fight, not even imperator
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I was doing krom and my boomkin stops attacking when I get grabbed. Anyone else having this problem?
I was doing krom and my boomkin stops attacking when I get grabbed. Anyone else having this problem?