TuanHA Death Knight- The Ultimate Experience

[xgaffax]

Is there now a special edition of the DK routine? Because I haven't received it in an email yet. I donated for the Paladin and Monk special editions. Doesn't that mean I get all the special editions when they become available? Or do I have to donate to this one separately?

 

[Mothr]

whats the best spec to pvp with this frost or unholy ? I got the special edition if that matters

Solo - Blood by a long shot!!
With pocket healer - choose what ever you like.

I do Bgs unattended with Blood, and he rips through most when fully equipped.
Arena etc with a healer, I run with 2H Frost.

 

[maxfx]

Is there now a special edition of the DK routine? Because I haven't received it in an email yet. I donated for the Paladin and Monk special editions. Doesn't that mean I get all the special editions when they become available? Or do I have to donate to this one separately?

All of us special edition donors ( the big 'packet' donation ) automatically receive email mate. If tuanha hasnt contact you , wisper him in-forum with your email so he can check out if you are eligible

 

[jesseleite]

i have a noob question, i have TuanHA Death Knight- The Ultimate Experience but recently replaced my HD. i had saved HB and the routine on my spare drive but now realize i no longer have the SVN attached to the folder. can someone please advise on how to fix this?

 

[tuanha]

If you have Special Edition, email me for new download link, if you have public release, redownload it from 1st post

 

[gorunn]

TuanHA, im using paid DK version and im playing Frost DW.. I literally turned everywhere Death and Decay yet routine is still casting it in Single target rotation, did i missed something or is it a part of rotation?

 

[dubstep1337]

when i use hb on my dk with unholy spec my game lags like hell.. does anyone know how to fix this? im using lazyraider btw.. :/

 

[tuanha]

TuanHA, im using paid DK version and im playing Frost DW.. I literally turned everywhere Death and Decay yet routine is still casting it in Single target rotation, did i missed something or is it a part of rotation?

Not sure if PvE or PvP.

PvP it cast to slow enemy.

In PvE it cast on Frost dual weild as suggested by Icy Veins.

In PvE it never cast on 2 handler.

Give me a log if it don't work like that.

 

[tuanha]

I deleted all my PM by accident, if you just send me a message pls let me know.

Sorry for inconvenience, my bad.

 

[gorunn]

Not sure if PvE or PvP.

PvP it cast to slow enemy.

In PvE it cast on Frost dual weild as suggested by Icy Veins.

In PvE it never cast on 2 handler.

Give me a log if it don't work like that.

PvE Dual Wield frost uses DnD on single mob, yes. So its current routine part of rotation as you said.

I have checked Icy Veins, since, as far as i know, DnD was never part of single target rotation as it is currently implemented in rotation.

I was right, DnD is not part of Single target rotation for both builds, 2h and Dual Wield, its part of AoE rotation.
Frost DK PvE rotation

 

[daemon9]

TuanHA, im using paid DK version and im playing Frost DW.. I literally turned everywhere Death and Decay yet routine is still casting it in Single target rotation, did i missed something or is it a part of rotation?

That's probably because the DW rotation should be keeping an unholy rune on cd, and the only ability that uses only one Unholy rune and does the most damage is DnD. So in order to keep that unholy rune on cd, it should be using Obliterate if DnD is on cooldown, and Plague Strike when the disease is about to fall off.

Here's some explanations on icyveins.com: http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/1557-dw-rotation-question/

 

[gorunn]

That's probably because the DW rotation should be keeping an unholy rune on cd, and the only ability that uses only one Unholy rune and does the most damage is DnD. So in order to keep that unholy rune on cd, it should be using Obliterate if DnD is on cooldown, and Plague Strike when the disease is about to fall off.

Here's some explanations on icyveins.com: http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/1557-dw-rotation-question/

Oh, rotation for Frost DW DK became so simple (not to say stupid)?

I havent played my DK since Cata and now i deceided to level him up and i noticed DnD as ST rotation, as i was heavy haste build in Cata, my rotation was a bit different, so i just thought that its maybe just miss in rotation.

So, just to make it clear for me, im Spamming HB, and keeping my unholy runes on CD if i speced in RE (which i should). I thought that i should game runes like that if i took BT?

Ty for update

 

[daemon9]

Oh, rotation for Frost DW DK became so simple (not to say stupid)?

I havent played my DK since Cata and now i deceided to level him up and i noticed DnD as ST rotation, as i was heavy haste build in Cata, my rotation was a bit different, so i just thought that its maybe just miss in rotation.

Ty for update

The rotation for DW hasn't changed much since Cata...there's just more emphasis on where you use your KM procs.

 

[muffmann]

Hey tuanHA, I had just recently switched to frost 2h, it works except for the the fact that it is pretty slow on using frost strike(yes it still uses it) but it will just sit at 100 runic power just doing white damage to boss, waiting for some type of proc, even with all runes up. So it loses out on a lot of dps.

I think that's the log, glanced over it, should it bit though.

 

[imdasandman]

Oh, rotation for Frost DW DK became so simple (not to say stupid)?

I havent played my DK since Cata and now i deceided to level him up and i noticed DnD as ST rotation, as i was heavy haste build in Cata, my rotation was a bit different, so i just thought that its maybe just miss in rotation.

So, just to make it clear for me, im Spamming HB, and keeping my unholy runes on CD if i speced in RE (which i should). I thought that i should game runes like that if i took BT?

Ty for update

Dw is mastery heavy not haste btw. If you are haste heavy slap a 2H on and call it a day.

 

[ticklets]

Does anyone have optimal settings for frost 2h pvp for 5.2? Special edition? Would love it.

 

[tuanha]

Hey tuanHA, I had just recently switched to frost 2h, it works except for the the fact that it is pretty slow on using frost strike(yes it still uses it) but it will just sit at 100 runic power just doing white damage to boss, waiting for some type of proc, even with all runes up. So it loses out on a lot of dps.

I think that's the log, glanced over it, should it bit though.

I'm reworking on DK rotation as there are few change needed for 5.2.

The longest time CR let Runic Power Cap in your log is the time there are more important spell to use:

[06:47:17.590 N] 17:589 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:2 F:0 U:0) Myself 0y 100% hp Blood Tap
[06:47:17.628 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 130735, KnownIndex: 71
[06:47:17.640 N] 17:640 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:2 F:0 U:0) Zandalari Storm-Caller 4.6y 31% hp Soul Reaper
[06:47:18.955 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 49020, KnownIndex: 61
[06:47:18.973 N] 18:973 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:2 F:0 U:0) Zandalari Storm-Caller 4.6y 25% hp Obliterate (ObliterateTHKM)
[06:47:20.055 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 49184, KnownIndex: 56
[06:47:20.067 N] 20:067 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:0 F:0 U:0) Zandalari Storm-Caller 4.6y 21% hp Howling Blast (HowlingBlastProc)
[06:47:21.147 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 45902, KnownIndex: 54
[06:47:21.165 N] 21:164 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:0 F:0 U:0) Zandalari Storm-Caller 4.6y 18% hp Frost Strike (FrostStrikeTH)
[06:47:22.318 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 45529, KnownIndex: 41
[06:47:22.330 N] 22:329 HP: 100% RP: 80 (B:0 D:0 F:0 U:0) Myself 0y 100% hp Blood Tap
[06:47:22.531 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 45902, KnownIndex: 54

[06:51:01.115 N] 01:115 HP: 96% RP: 100 (B:0 D:1 F:0 U:1) Zandalari Blade Initiate 3.22y 20% hp Howling Blast (HowlingBlastProc)
[06:51:03.191 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 49020, KnownIndex: 61
[06:51:03.203 N] 03:203 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:1 F:0 U:1) Zandalari Blade Initiate 3.22y 11% hp Obliterate (ObliterateTHKM)
[06:51:03.821 N] Burst Mode is OFF
[06:51:03.861 N] Burst Mode Activated On Cooldown
[06:51:13.510 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 47476, KnownIndex: 72
[06:51:13.534 N] 13:534 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:1 F:2 U:2) Zandalari Storm-Caller 10.21y 47% hp Strangulate
[06:51:14.317 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 77575, KnownIndex: 62
[06:51:14.328 N] 14:328 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:0 F:2 U:2) Zandalari Storm-Caller 16.48y 45% hp Outbreak
[06:51:18.052 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 130735, KnownIndex: 71
[06:51:18.064 N] 18:064 HP: 100% RP: 100 (B:0 D:1 F:2 U:1) Zandalari Storm-Caller 2.62y 34% hp Soul Reaper
[06:51:18.880 N] Burst Mode is OFF
[06:51:18.919 N] Burst Mode Activated On Cooldown
[06:51:19.665 D] [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 49020, KnownIndex: 61
[06:51:19.683 N] 19:683 HP: 85% RP: 100 (B:0 D:1 F:1 U:1) Zandalari Storm-Caller 2.32y 29% hp Obliterate (ObliterateTHKM)

I'm sure there are bug somewhere in my CR because of new patch/new HB... I really love you to give me log to analyze

 

[muffmann]

I feel weird when I give you a log, its like letting you know everything that I do...when no one else knows! lol

 

[muffmann]

using DnD in Single Target rotation reaaaallllyyy looks like botish behavior

Yeah I was noticing that too, it drops DnD smack dab in the middle every time. I didn't think anything of it, cause in other cases you are constantly moving. (actually now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it doesn't cast on you directly, but rather on mobs in dungeons and what not.) but solo...I don't remember if it does.

Also I didn't know Big Brother was Honorbuddy in disguise.

 

[gorunn]

Yeah I was noticing that too, it drops DnD smack dab in the middle every time. I didn't think anything of it, cause in other cases you are constantly moving. (actually now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it doesn't cast on you directly, but rather on mobs in dungeons and what not.) but solo...I don't remember if it does.

Sorry, had to edit previous post for typos and easy understanding.
Yes, its dropping it under mobs, but in Single target fights routine drops DnD directly under you since mob by then is already in melee range, if its a caster routine DG's him, so, at the end casters also end up in melee range. As i said, i do really think that DnD is flashing firework that says "look at me!" every time you fire it off. In dungeons/raids its pretty much ok, you are monitoring bot and interacting with people, but if you afk farm/grind every time you drop DnD its, as i said, a disaster to happen, or at least enough for someone with little perception to get suspicious. I personally dont mind doing 2-3k lower DPS on trash mobs since im AFKing while i farm/grind, so keeping flashy spells outside of rotation would be pretty much better for more security when you are completely AFK.

TuanHA, i have small suggestion.

Im asking this cause im still lvling, and rotation using DnD in Single Target rotation and it reaaaallllyyy looks like botish behavior (its big, shiny and cast animation is huuggee) so you cannot miss not seeing it at all. If you follow around character a bit you cant not to notice exact same rotation and figure out its a bot.
It would be good if you could implement option (where your movement/targeting on/off options are) for turning off DnD. After turning it off rotation would automatically use Death Strike's only to dump unholy rune's. If you turn DnD on it would be used as now, in rotation. Our DPS doesnt matter so much if were doing some rep grinding, some farming or dailies, and its more important to keep low profile while afk botting than maxing your DPS, at least it is for me.