This bot is inferior to the competition in every possible way

[invalidusername]

Who knows. I've been at it for years and never have gotten banned other then in rift and when I used glider. Just being around the botting scene for so long you start to know what to look for and how to avoid it. But back on topic. I just wish this bot wouldn't get stuck so much. Never had this problem with other bots. :/

I have the most respect for our bot maker(s) and our profile maker(s), the best I can do programming wise = IF you have beer, THEN give it to me!

 

[iron_bird]

j0achim has updating CC for barbs and is working on DH now that works pretty well.

[17:13:53.118 N] Number of games completed:40
[17:13:53.122 N] Last run acquired 7165 gold.
[17:13:53.123 N] Current Gold per Hour: 191349

on my barb 200% gf, 28 range, no increase movement speed and the stickied arreat profile. Not bad for doing NO WORK other than looking at what it out there offered to me freely (minus some donations). Now if I wanted to do WORK MYSELF I could probably push this much higher than waiting for others.

you think that 200k gph with 200%gf is fine? to compare, i'm able to achieve 430-480k gph on my barbarian with 25ms, 233gf and 40 radius and with db i can achieve max 200k gph with this char. It is stuck about 30% of the time, poor configuration of pickit(hard to add 'pick items higher or equal than : ...'?) - see immortal again, crashes about once per 2-3hours, no relogger, shitloads of windows opened. If it weren't for the closed sales at vs bot, i'd never pay for this alpha version of demonburger bot. The race started month ago and it seems to a bit of waste of money atm.

 

[A1l3n]

I never blamed the product. You're, honestly, an idiot.

First of all, you can hardly compose a sentence without tripping all over the rules of the English language. Secondly, you have used what is a classical straw man argument. You're attacking me for a claim that I never made. I never blamed the bot. I am pointing out that Buddy products are far from infallible. You're also assuming too much, which reveals your idiocy. You assume that I made a multitude of errors while botting when in actuality, I did not. I used a private profile that went along its own unique path.

It must fathom you that Blizzard actively pursues and bans people who use 3rd party programs. Your luck at dodging the banhammer is not universal. Your anecdotal experience does not disprove other people's anecdotal experiences. Perhaps, you should take a lesson on logic so you don't continue to spew such ignorance.

All I have to say is. UMAD KID? And stop being a grammar Nazi on a multi language board. Never everyone is as skilled as you in the English language. And really... It's not luck at all. It's knowing how to bot from 10 years+ of experience. So do fuck off. And you inadvertently blamed the product by pointing the blame else where, other then your own ignorance. At least from what I took away from it.

 

[axazol]

You RISK getting banned, difference is with other bots you DO get banned, with buddy bots you DON'T get banned.

You'll get your ban in any way, just matter of time.
For now, one bot with 450-500GPH can buy to you new D3EU account in 8 hours. Plus around 9 hour (or less) to get 60lvl. And you believe Bliz can ban me in less than one day?
Than higher GPH - the sooner you can beat back spent money and starting grow rich.

 

[Hawker]

Who knows. I've been at it for years and never have gotten banned other then in rift and when I used glider. Just being around the botting scene for so long you start to know what to look for and how to avoid it. But back on topic. I just wish this bot wouldn't get stuck so much. Never had this problem with other bots. :/

We have issues with targeting and pauses that we are addressing today.

 

[Hawker]

Could we try to keep on topic here please? More bug reports and less personal insults.

 

[Hammer]

All I have to say is. UMAD KID? And stop being a grammar Nazi on a multi language board. Never everyone is as skilled as you in the English language. And really... It's not luck at all. It's knowing how to bot from 10 years+ of experience. So do fuck off. And you inadvertently blamed the product by pointing the blame else where, other then your own ignorance. At least from what I took away from it.

Thankfully, you are not a native English speaker. If you were a native English speaker, your use of the language would be quite the tragedy.

Again, you make more assumptions. You speak more for me than I do. Not only that but you cannot even go on for more than a sentence without having to insult the other person. If this is how you persist with discussions, why bother communicating with anyone at all? 10+ years of experience? I highly doubt you started botting when you were 5 years old. With the maturity that you display, it's hard to believe you're any older than 15. Or maybe you just suffer from autism and you're just socially dysfunctional.
You believe luck is not a factor when it comes to botting? There are so many factors that depend entirely on luck and chance.

- The number of people that have reported you out of spite
- Whether or not a GM happened to stumble upon that area while you were botting

Edit: I will respect your wishes, Hawker. Unfortunately, someone derailed the discussion by bringing up fallacious claims and personal attacks and I fed the troll.

 

[Toney001]

I never blamed the product. You're, honestly, an idiot.

First of all, you can hardly compose a sentence without tripping all over the rules of the English language. Secondly, you have used what is a classical straw man argument. You're attacking me for a claim that I never made. I never blamed the bot. I am pointing out that Buddy products are far from infallible. You're also assuming too much, which reveals your idiocy. You assume that I made a multitude of errors while botting when in actuality, I did not. I used a private profile that went along its own unique path.

It must fathom you that Blizzard actively pursues and bans people who use 3rd party programs. Your luck at dodging the banhammer is not universal. Your anecdotal experience does not disprove other people's anecdotal experiences. Perhaps, you should take a lesson on logic so you don't continue to spew such ignorance.

I don't think you got banned for detection as much as a player report coupled with script/GM check.

Even using private profiles, farming can always get you banned because, at some point or another, someone's gonna notice you and report you (specially greedy botters, that can spot a bot instantly, and actively report them to have less competition).
I have 3 types of accounts:

A) My main account: On this one, all I do with HB is LazyRaider and profession stuff with PB (general shuffling and/or crafting). Never banned.

B) AH account: TSM bots running 3/4 times a week, from 6pm-2am. Saturday/Sunday all day. Never banned.

C) Farming accounts: Instance farming, gathering at several spots. Every account has it's own private profile. Every account has MULTIPLE farmers, to avoid being on the same toon all day, and rotating zones (I don't have a toon on a given zone more than 2 hours a day). Also, I don't ever step into Uldum. All banned/suspended at some point.
You can be as careful as humanly possible, but it only takes one guy to spam general chat with "so and so are bots, report them" to be looking at a possible ban.

IMHO, HB is not detected per se, but other people can report you just fine, and they can run scripts, and that's what gets you banned on wow.
There's nothing the devs can do to shield us from that.

 

[A1l3n]

Back on topic : My complaints are that the targeting issues (IE moving back and forth and slow to attack and skipping rare's and elites or not targeting them first) second : The movement seems kinda sluggish in a way. Seems like it's moves then stops and then moves then stops. third : not dodging AOE or hazards. Forth : getting stuck alot. After about 5 runs it will stop and not move anymore. have to restart the whole bot.

 

[Hammer]

I don't think you got banned for detection as much as a player report coupled with script/GM check.

Even using private profiles, farming can always get you banned because, at some point or another, someone's gonna notice you and report you (specially greedy botters, that can spot a bot instantly, and actively report them to have less competition).
I have 3 types of accounts:

A) My main account: On this one, all I do with HB is LazyRaider and profession stuff with PB (general shuffling and/or crafting). Never banned.

B) AH account: TSM bots running 3/4 times a week, from 6pm-2am. Saturday/Sunday all day. Never banned.

C) Farming accounts: Instance farming, gathering at several spots. Every account has it's own private profile. Every account has MULTIPLE farmers, to avoid being on the same toon all day, and rotating zones (I don't have a toon on a given zone more than 2 hours a day). Also, I don't ever step into Uldum. All banned/suspended at some point.
You can be as careful as humanly possible, but it only takes one guy to spam general chat with "so and so are bots, report them" to be looking at a possible ban.

IMHO, HB is not detected per se, but other people can report you just fine, and they can run scripts, and that's what gets you banned on wow.
There's nothing the devs can do to shield us from that.

Obviously not. HB has not been detected since that incidence when they shared a piece of code with Pirox and got caught up in the crossfire when Blizzard went after Pirox (not sure if it was Pirox). I'm just pointing out that claims of Buddy products being immune to bans are not true.

Most users are banned not because of the bot being detected.

 

[A1l3n]

Thankfully, you are not a native English speaker. If you were a native English speaker, your use of the language would be quite the tragedy.

Again, you make more assumptions. You speak more for me than I do. Not only that but you cannot even go on for more than a sentence without having to insult the other person. If this is how you persist with discussions, why bother communicating with anyone at all? 10+ years of experience? I highly doubt you started botting when you were 5 years old. With the maturity that you display, it's hard to believe you're any older than 15. Or maybe you just suffer from autism and you're just socially dysfunctional.
You believe luck is not a factor when it comes to botting? There are so many factors that depend entirely on luck and chance.

- The number of people that have reported you out of spite
- Whether or not a GM happened to stumble upon that area while you were botting

Edit: I will respect your wishes, Hawker. Unfortunately, someone derailed the discussion by bringing up fallacious claims and personal attacks and I fed the troll.

We done here?

 

[Hammer]

We done here?

Didn't seem like you were addressing my posts, anyway.

 

[A1l3n]

Didn't seem like you were addressing my posts, anyway.

I have nothing nice to say to you. So I asked are we done? Can we get back on topic? I'm done.

 

[kaihaider]

Obviously not. HB has not been detected since that incidence when they shared a piece of code with Pirox and got caught up in the crossfire when Blizzard went after Pirox (not sure if it was Pirox). I'm just pointing out that claims of Buddy products being immune to bans are not true.

Most users are banned not because of the bot being detected.

You mean no users are banned because of the bot being detected. (exluding gb1, which still it's self was not detected)

So how is: "claims of Buddy products being immune to bans are not true."

Accounts using buddy products are bannable; the software it's self is 'immune' in that it is not detectable.

edit: have you even reread your exchange with Killaaaa? you were clearly the troll there...

 

[Hammer]

You mean no users are banned because of the bot being detected. (exluding gb1, which still it's self was not detected)

So how is: "claims of Buddy products being immune to bans are not true."

Accounts using buddy products are bannable; the software it's self is 'immune' in that it is not detectable.

edit: have you even reread your exchange with Killaaaa? you were clearly the troll there...

Are you serious? Someone wrote "The difference is you DON'T GET BANNED with Buddy products." This implies that Buddy products are entirely immune to bans which they AREN'T. Detection of software is not the only source of bans. Even then, the bot is NOT foolproof against detection. Hello? HonorBuddy was caught in a banwave once. I pointed that out.

But don't let the truth stop you! Just read 1/8 of my post and respond to that part only.

 

[kaihaider]

Are you serious? Someone wrote "The difference is you DON'T GET BANNED with Buddy products." This implies that Buddy products are entirely immune to bans which they AREN'T. Detection of software is not the only source of bans. Even then, the bot is NOT foolproof against detection. Hello? HonorBuddy was caught in a banwave once. I pointed that out.

But don't let the truth stop you! Just read 1/8 of my post and respond to that part only.

First off, it wasn't honorbuddy. It was gb1 which works completely differently. If I remember correctly they were caught because they were using code from a trusted source who said he had already checked it's warden protection.

You're missing the point; Buddy software's immunity to detection removes one avenue through which people are banned. People always have their own theories on what other various factors blizzard monitors for flagging and they have their rituals for avoiding these possible factors. Software detection is the one factor we know blizzard monitors. And Buddy software is effectively 'immune' to this detection.

Frankly, I would consider that common sense.

 

[mephuser1000]

First off, it wasn't honorbuddy. It was gb1 which works completely differently. If I remember correctly they were caught because they were using code from a trusted source who said he had already checked it's warden protection.

You're missing the point; Buddy software's immunity to detection removes one avenue through which people are banned. People always have their own theories on what other various factors blizzard monitors for flagging and they have their rituals for avoiding these possible factors. Software detection is the one factor we know blizzard monitors. And Buddy software is effectively 'immune' to this detection.

Frankly, I would consider that common sense.

Repetitive movement along the same path in WoW, even hand-played can get you banned. Warden has data-mining capabilities and generates plenty of false positives, guilty before proven innocent.

 

[kaihaider]

Repetitive movement along the same path in WoW, even hand-played can get you banned.

Do you mean by player reports or GMs thinking your afk? If it's a filter it would have to be specific variables. They can't just log movement data and filter for repetitive movements; it might seem easy at first glance but it would take way way too much processing...

Warden has data-mining capabilities and generates plenty of false positives, guilty before proven innocent.

I'm not even sure what your second sentence means.

 

[Nab]

How about you all stop the bickering, stick to actually reporting bugs, and do it in the right way (LOGS LOGS MOAR LOGS) and the buddy team will do their job.

 

[Yellowspark]

Fix the priority list so the bot will Kill enemy first then loot and finally go to next waypoint