They're reading our posts...

[pontius001]

I've said this many times on this forum already : some people - like me - use HB as a "key presser", since I've got a disability on my hands and arms that prevent me from playing the game properly. I'm not going to elaborate, but believe me, without any help, I won't be at par with even the worst player, so - without HB - being kicked out of groups/dungeons/raids is only a matter of time. So yeah, HB has been a WoW life-saver for me, and I know, for many other players with some sort of disability as well. But Blizzard doesn't care about that .. a bot is a bot, full stop. And if you have a disability, that's your problem.

So I have to accept the suspension and decided continue after it has been lifted.

And yes, definitely with a bot, whichever is available in six months.

Hopefully BOSSLAND found a way to be undetected by then.

I am in the exact same boat as you are on this one. With the bot, I am just like everyone else as I don't go crazy with bot things and try to have it for basic things for me. Without the bot, people are more likely to report me as a "broken" bot if I try to join bg's, dungeons, or anything else as a group. Without the bot, I get it from everyone that I suck and I have to learn how to play my class. Unfortunately, these people need to realize that there are people with disabilities that need help. And I really prefer to bot and feel like I am carrying my weight than not bot and feel like everyone is carrying me while getting barraged with insults...

Even on this post a person reveals their disability and you have people insulting them. In the real world, these are the people that would take a wheel chair from someone and laugh at them while the crippled crawled on the floor. SMH at these people.

 

[crazy008]

I'm just a bypasser but this is a huge pile of junk I've just read. If you are disabled - do things you can do within your capacity or choose another game. If you hold a dungeon team back without a bot, don't climb in dungeons youknow You're not supposed to be able to play absolutely every single aspect of an mmo. Lots of people think they are entitled to raid mythic but guess what - guilds don't want them because that area is out of those players' league. My friend Jimmy wanted to be a basketball player at NBA although he's only 1,5m tall, hurrdurr. Having equal access to every single aspect in an mmo-game isn't a human right.

With this logic, prosthetics or other aids like wheelchairs and glasses would not be allowed in the real world.

 

[justreading]

My guess is justreading came from the wow forums to troll....a troll is a troll afterall.
btw justreading...if you wanna troll...do it properly. Youre a passerby not a bypasser...2 totally different things that make a troll look like an imbecile because they can't complete the most asinine of tasks such as trolling.

I'm very sorry, English isn't my first language. You got the idea though, I hope And I'm not sure if you know the meaning of trolling if you think my replies are anywhere near that category. My point is - if a physically disabled person thinks he should be entitled to bot then what stops less-skilled people from botting aswell? It's a disability aswell, to a degree.

With this logic, prosthetics or other aids like wheelchairs and glasses would not be allowed in the real world.

Amazed by your reading abilities. I never said disabled people shouldn't be playing the game. I just said that people should stick to the things they can do. And not only disabled, I mean everyone. If you're too shit to dps for more than 5k, then don't join a dungeon - doesn't matter if you're disabled or not.

 

[pontius001]

I'm very sorry, English isn't my first language. You got the idea though, I hope And I'm not sure if you know the meaning of trolling if you think my replies are anywhere near that category. My point is - if a physically disabled person thinks he should be entitled to bot then what stops less-skilled people from botting aswell? It's a disability aswell, to a degree.



Amazed by your reading abilities. I never said disabled people shouldn't be playing the game. I just said that people should stick to the things they can do. And not only disabled, I mean everyone. If you're too shit to dps for more than 5k, then don't join a dungeon - doesn't matter if you're disabled or not.

The disabled aren't stating that they have a right to or entitled to bot. They are stating that they are glad that they got to use the bot to feel like a normal player. We accept the ban like everyone else and just hope that Bossland continues Honorbuddy for us to continue.

 

[Aetheric]

I am in the exact same boat as you are on this one. With the bot, I am just like everyone else as I don't go crazy with bot things and try to have it for basic things for me. Without the bot, people are more likely to report me as a "broken" bot if I try to join bg's, dungeons, or anything else as a group. Without the bot, I get it from everyone that I suck and I have to learn how to play my class. Unfortunately, these people need to realize that there are people with disabilities that need help. And I really prefer to bot and feel like I am carrying my weight than not bot and feel like everyone is carrying me while getting barraged with insults...

Even on this post a person reveals their disability and you have people insulting them. In the real world, these are the people that would take a wheel chair from someone and laugh at them while the crippled crawled on the floor. SMH at these people.

I totally feel you, man.
That moron somehow really got to me.
The kiddo must be gloating over it now ..

 

[Cyanide]

Well, i hope they're reading our posts, yea...
How many of those bitching there are also botters who had the luck of not getting caught?

I'm kinda sad, i admit, for seeing m account locked. 8 years account without never having being banned for any reason at all.
Used bot since 1.5yrs just to do archeology and recently catch some lunkers.
So yea, i'm getting a 6 month ban (hopefully it's only 6 months, cause the appeal e-mail said it was permanent, so now i don't really know), because of some god damm fish. Great!
But yea, i knew what i was doing was wrong and there was a chance i could get caught. Ok, chapter closed, find something else to do, and if by November i can still care anything at all about WoW i might come back... or not. 6 month is a long time and i'm going to loose the train... Not looking foward to get back to the game with LFR item lvl gear...

Looking back i think "damm, it was only a few fish.. i wasn't really profitting from it, i wasn't making any1 life's miserable..." I don't even want to know how those who used a simple milling bot are feeling right now. But also, i think "ok, so i'm banned, but heck, i don't feel THAT bad for being banned for not wanting to sit 1hr in front of the pc clicking my mouse every 15secs to catch 5 lunkers.... (yes, because that's how long it took me in average to catch 5 lunkers with 1000+ fishing skill)... I never used it for raiding, nor pvp'ing, not even for the garrison-shit-thingy...

Still, what irkes me most is that i created a start level account (or whatever is called), just to see if i could talk in-game to a GM (cause i'm really bothered about getting automated msgs from tickets... least i can ask is talk to a human being...) (ironic to say that Blizz bans ppl for botting, but are using "bots" to reply to ppl). I ran to Darnassus just to check something for myself and BAM... there it was.

Trade chat in the day right after the ban:
- gold sellers
- battlegrounds and raid boosters (selling the boost for real money)
- CM boosters (also selling for real money)

They were there the day before i got banned, and they're still there. They spamm the chat 24/7 with that bullshit for months on end now, and yet i'm the one banned from botting for some fish... And they do it in the main chat of the game where EVERYBODY can see it...

Kinda revolting...

Hah I remember when I lost my vanilla account with good ole' pirox... first time ever botting, do you know what I did with it? I botted Archaeology, first time ever "Cheating" I get hit with a perma ban. funny thing is, archaeology does well nothing...

you get fluff items like trinkets that make you sparkle or turn you into something. The really funny part is after I was thrown to the side like some useless dog by Blizzard after months of trying to get my account back. I made a new one, found HB (they turned me to the darkside after that) and I ended up getting gold cap in cata with it, never got banned.. until now.

But that gold (and two other gold caps by now) are long gone spent on things. Its really funny tbh, if they'd of just given me back my vanilla account I'd of been too scared to bot. But f em, bot4lyfe lmao.

 

[shelaine]

I understand that the bot was a great way for people who really are disabled, but I doubt there are plenty of them. We all know it too well.. lots of people love to use this for an appeal or to defend their botting in general without actually being disabled. This is something that makes me mad like hardly anything else, but that's another story and each to their own, I guess.

In all honesty: justreading has some very valid points to this. And I am saying this as a botter myself. You guys (both sides) need to stop blind rage, emotions, whateverfuck, and start using your brains in order to evaluate certain situations objective. To me, that's exactly what justreading did. Contrary to some other kids in this topic.

Yes, I am a botter. Yes, I enjoy botting, I hate doing tedious stuff by hand and I will never for the life of me touch WoW without a bot again. I admit that I am botting, and I do NOT need to use a fake excuse like being disabled or anything alike. Grow some balls, kids. This does of course not apply to people who actually are disabled. But justreading is right. You, like any other human being on this planet, are not allowed to break laws because you are disabled, and you, like any other human being on this planet, have to uphold a contract you have signed just like anyone else. Using their own disability to excuse every bullshit they do in life is embarrassing, dumb and immature.

I would love to do Triathlon and I'm heartbroken that I cannot do it, because I'm not able to swim competitive because of shoulder issues. Now what? Should I expect people to change the whole sport, or to implement some uber-extra-excuse JUST FOR ME? Come on. Grow up.

 

[shelaine]

The disabled aren't stating that they have a right to or entitled to bot. They are stating that they are glad that they got to use the bot to feel like a normal player. We accept the ban like everyone else and just hope that Bossland continues Honorbuddy for us to continue.

That's a great answer, and that's exactly what I wanted to aim at with my posting above. Thanks.

 

[pontius001]

That's a great answer, and that's exactly what I wanted to aim at with my posting above. Thanks.

I do believe that your comments prior to this were way off mark if you were trying to say what I said. From the comments you and justreading made seem to assume that both of the confessed disabled people here are claiming that they may not be disabled and think they should not be punished for using the bot. I don't know where those ideas you two have came from since neither of those people even stated anything remotely to that matter. That is why I took them as negative and I am sure Aetheric did too.

 

[shelaine]

I do believe that your comments prior to this were way off mark if you were trying to say what I said. From the comments you and justreading made seem to assume that both of the confessed disabled people here are claiming that they may not be disabled and think they should not be punished for using the bot. I don't know where those ideas you two have came from since neither of those people even stated anything remotely to that matter. That is why I took them as negative and I am sure Aetheric did too.

You are right, I was not trying to say what you said. I was rather trying to say that I would love disabled people to regard the whole situation the way you did with your answer. However, my other point was, that there are people (I'm not talking about you or anyone else specific) who either use their disability as an excuse for anything, or people who use a non-existent disability to excuse crap. I think everyone in the HB community knows those kinds of people and what I am talking about. And, I believe, we agree that this sucks and on the other hand explains why some people do not believe certain "excuses" anymore. Again: I never talked about specific persons, it's a general thing.