The WD and me, or *How my 600h+ played barb retired*

[LuckyZippo]

oh, one question, what follower for wd ? and what gear to use for follower

 

[Benevolene]

Just sayin', you've gotten more gear on your WD in 24 hours than I have in 500.

 

[LuckyZippo]

so, here we are, 62h played, ~25 before RoS, and blizz keeps throwing the legs at the wd, like *Shaddap and take all the rarest legs !*

rng is rng, but second soj just dropped, refueled my rage, i think ill quit till 2.1 hits, hoping for more balancing

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[mrbubbel]

so, here we are, 62h played, ~25 before RoS, and blizz keeps throwing the legs at the wd, like *Shaddap and take all the rarest legs !*

rng is rng, but second soj just dropped, refueled my rage, i think ill quit till 2.1 hits, hoping for more balancing

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to be honest i dont really understand your problem here. the only thing a witchdoctor is better at is farming ghom with low gear. with good gear you hit the 60 games/h limit with almost every class. in addition to that ghom isnt even the best profile. rifts + bounties are more rewarding on T6 when you have good gear and witchdoctors dont perform better on those. if you couldnt hit that gear level with 600h played on your barb, you have been doing something wrong. maybe ask for advice for gear/build decisions.

 

[munkafan]

i switched from wd to barb because wd sucks apart from ghom or single target in general (my wd kills ghom T6 in 4sec). in fact i think barb is the best class for solo play. i didnt bot a lot with demonhunter or crusader though but the others cannot compete for sure. you just have to know what to do.

WD pet build with Smk, T&T, Tmf, Moj + overall good Dps facerolls T6 with little to no effort. You can't say that WD sucks, Barbs rule when they don't.....

 

[roroli]

Who, fucking, cares. Game isn't balanced around how fast you can kill a single mob when stacking damage for specifically that purpose. Obviously examining this gives an unrealistic impression of how strong WD's are. My Wizard outdamages my pet WD over (Pet WD's gear is arguably better, too) the course of a full run but the WD absolutely crushes my Wiz's single target damage.

I think the disparity seems amplified in the botting community since "the" most popular method of botting heavily favours classes that can stack enormous amounts of front-loaded damage.

 

[roroli]

rifts + bounties are more rewarding on T6 when you have good gear

That might be true but unless there have been unbelievably dramatic changes to the proficiency of the scripts you mention i find it hard to imagine either would outperform Ghom in lph (steady 6+ for me) However, I'd be glad to be proven wrong In fact, generally speaking the bot wasn't capable of doing the same difficulty as I was solo (at least 1 and often 2 torments lower was "comfy") so might even go so far as to speculate that the bot "can't" do t6 without dying a shit ton.

 

[mrbubbel]

That might be true but unless there have been unbelievably dramatic changes to the proficiency of the scripts you mention i find it hard to imagine either would outperform Ghom in lph (steady 6+ for me) However, I'd be glad to be proven wrong In fact, generally speaking the bot wasn't capable of doing the same difficulty as I was solo (at least 1 and often 2 torments lower was "comfy") so might even go so far as to speculate that the bot "can't" do t6 without dying a shit ton.

just after 2h of t6 rifts:
it will decrease to ~12 eventually but i dont think ghom would ever be able to produce such results.

 

[roroli]

just after 2h of t6 rifts: View attachment 131977
it will decrease to ~12 eventually but i dont think ghom would ever be able to produce such results.

Cute, but completely anecdotal and unhelpful. Grats?

Maybe i should post a 200 deaths/h screenie after my almost BiS WD get's one shot by a nasty pack on t6 as some kind of "proof", too?

I highly, highly doubt you're getting 12 leg/h over anything resembling a decent sample size. I've played in efficient 4 man groups on t6 for long periods of time and not averaged that many legs. You're either on a serious hot streak, or straight up full of shit. You're right that Ghom can't match these ficticious/exaggerated results, though!

I'm always happy to eat humble pie, hold my hands up and say I'm wrong. That screenshot isn't quite the inducement I require, it's so arbitrary it's laughable, frankly.

 

[mrbubbel]

well yeah there is no way to prove it unless i post my character which i wont. in a 24h periode im getting like 7 stashes full of legendarys. in a grp you can get way more just look at avoid's stream they are usually grp rifting.

i dont care if people believe me. you asked and i answered the way i could.

 

[snakkes]

well yeah there is no way to prove it unless i post my character which i wont. in a 24h periode im getting like 7 stashes full of legendarys. in a grp you can get way more just look at avoid's stream they are usually grp rifting.

i dont care if people believe me. you asked and i answered the way i could.

You can post an 12 hours or longer log ofc.

Dont need to show your character lol...

 

[mrbubbel]

i dont see a difference. if i wanted to i could have just edited the logs. so its basically the same. you still have to believe my words.

thats my last 3 hours T6 rifts:

Total tracking time: 3h 1m 10s

Items:
Total items dropped: 569 [188.44 per hour]

Items dropped by quality:
- White: 73 [24.18 per hour] {12.83 %}
- Magic: 146 [48.35 per hour] {25.66 %}
- Rare: 323 [106.97 per hour] {56.77 %}
- Legendary: 27 [8.94 per hour] {4.75 %}


+4 kadala legendaries makes 31/3h = 10.33 legendaries/h

 

[criticalanarchy]

i dont see a difference. if i wanted to i could have just edited the logs. so its basically the same. you still have to believe my words.

thats my last 3 hours T6 rifts:

Total tracking time: 3h 1m 10s

Items:
Total items dropped: 569 [188.44 per hour]

Items dropped by quality:
- White: 73 [24.18 per hour] {12.83 %}
- Magic: 146 [48.35 per hour] {25.66 %}
- Rare: 323 [106.97 per hour] {56.77 %}
- Legendary: 27 [8.94 per hour] {4.75 %}


+4 kadala legendaries makes 31/3h = 10.33 legendaries/h

3 hours is still too small of a sample size. Try 12+hours // I have too many characters capable of T6 and I find that LPH eventually averages to same or less than 4 LPH for rifts and bounties since there are too many variable unlike static farming.

Based on my logs/community logs it's painfully obvious that Siege Camp > Ghom > Rifts/Bounty (Yes even with Kadala) in terms of LPH.

Let us be real lol~

*Also yes, it took 2 years for Blizzard to buff the WD class, but when they did it they went overboard. My 700 hour Barb started to collect dust when I noticed how easy it was for a WD (I still prefer manually playing Barb though, leaping is dumb fun).

 

[roroli]

Based on my logs/community logs it's painfully obvious that Siege Camp > Ghom > Rifts/Bounty (Yes even with Kadala) in terms of LPH.

The voice of reason.

 

[mrbubbel]

here is today's log:

Total tracking time: 5h 3m 58s

Total items dropped: 780 [153.96 per hour]

Items dropped by quality:
- White: 81 [15.99 per hour] {10.38 %}
- Magic: 177 [34.94 per hour] {22.69 %}
- Rare: 475 [93.76 per hour] {60.90 %}
- Legendary: 47 [9.28 per hour] {6.03 %}

47 +12 kadala legendaries = 59 ~11.8 lph

i guess im still lucky. should have done ghom instead

 

[roroli]

here is today's log:

Total tracking time: 5h 3m 58s

Total items dropped: 780 [153.96 per hour]

Items dropped by quality:
- White: 81 [15.99 per hour] {10.38 %}
- Magic: 177 [34.94 per hour] {22.69 %}
- Rare: 475 [93.76 per hour] {60.90 %}
- Legendary: 47 [9.28 per hour] {6.03 %}

47 +12 kadala legendaries = 59 ~11.8 lph

i guess im still lucky. should have done ghom instead

Very nice. If you're getting those rates on a consistent basis then kudos, you're the only person on this site (unless i've missed something and admittedly i don't scour all threads at all times! ) getting anywhere near that kind of LPH.

You note kadala legendaries, is there a working method for kadala now? If not you must be pausing to gamble = your LPH should be even higher, no?

 

[mrbubbel]

trinity logs only count dropped legendaries. i just add the kadala rest by myself.
armory and kadalaspree are both working kadala plugins. for me kadalaspree is working better.
my results are 100% afk and i dont even think my bot is doing it fast. with some good drops and/or tweaks to riftbot/gearswap extreme it could go way faster. some maps still end in gold inactivity triggered.

just get 2 unities, a templar immortal relic, overall decent gear for a good build and use gearswap. if thats the case any class should get at least 8~lph with riftbot imo.

same session:
Total tracking time: 8h 57m 31s
Total deaths: 12 [1.34 per hour]

Items:
Total items dropped: 1404 [156.72 per hour]

Items dropped by quality:
- White: 124 [13.84 per hour] {8.83 %}
- Magic: 358 [39.96 per hour] {25.50 %}
- Rare: 843 [94.10 per hour] {60.04 %}
- Legendary: 79 [8.82 per hour] {5.63 %}

79+17 kadala = 96 ~ 10.66 lph

 

[Kazumakun]

I get 6 legs/hr on ghom with WD i usually pool farm for hr or so before i start and it takes me roughly 1hr 30mins per lvl @ 7.2+bil per lvl hb always says 2.5bil/hr but it's more like 3.5 0 deaths and i no longer need mara's so dont use it with taskers and tall mans and leeching beasts any damage is near instantly healed up and when he dies his clouds vanish (unlike the rift boss >.<)

 

[mrbubbel]

hb always says 2.5bil/hr but it's more like 3.5

hmm no. 31 million per kill. lets say 85 games per hour (i think thats the absolute maximum you can get there) will result in 2.6b exp/h. after some time though you will get error 42002.

so with 24/7 ghom ~60 games/h is the maximum you can do. = 1.86b exp/h

 

[Benevolene]

i dont see a difference. if i wanted to i could have just edited the logs. so its basically the same. you still have to believe my words.

thats my last 3 hours T6 rifts:

Total tracking time: 3h 1m 10s

Items:
Total items dropped: 569 [188.44 per hour]

Items dropped by quality:
- White: 73 [24.18 per hour] {12.83 %}
- Magic: 146 [48.35 per hour] {25.66 %}
- Rare: 323 [106.97 per hour] {56.77 %}
- Legendary: 27 [8.94 per hour] {4.75 %}


+4 kadala legendaries makes 31/3h = 10.33 legendaries/h

You're clearly not understanding (at all), what they're trying to tell you, so I'll try to help it:

50 hours of Ghom T6, 60 games per hour: 3.5 legendaries per hour.
50 hours of Ghom T6, 60 games per hour: 0.9 legendaries per hour.

Sample size.

Sample size.

Yes. Sample size.

Notice that EXTREME variance on a 50 hours run. It's nuts. Now transfer that 400% variance from my 2x 50 hours onto your 2x ~3 hours and gawk at the result. I've had spikes of 200 legendaries per hour in Ghom on T6... that doesn't mean I actually get 200 legendaries in 1 hour.