thats how we got ban READ from BLIZZARD MVP - Technical Support

[Xarian]

It's common knowledge if you read the news. I believe Bossland sued Blizzard over it and won but I may be misremembering here.

Bossland havent sued Blizzard over aquiring stormbuddy source code through apoc.

 

[Ilja Rogoff]

@OP nice trolling attempt

 

[Munibert]

FROM BLIZZARD FOURM !

Posted by ß*******
I play well enough, and everyone accuses me of being a bot, but I take it as a compliment, because my kicks are always on point. Nice job Blizz on believing every random report saying someone is a bot. Look a little further into detail next time please.. It's not fair people who play legitamently lose their accounts for no reason.

REPLAY FROM Mirasol MVP - Technical Support : They don't ban on reports, although that can trigger an investigation. They log all your activity, login details, programs running on your PC and interacting with the game etc. THAT is what they ban people on. It is also why investigations take months to gather all the data on all those players.

What is even funnier, is when people post on Tech Support and we can see the botting programs in their log files...and they think Blizzard can't? They most certainly are not going on random reports.

As for actions:

-Some got 6 months
-Some got 18 months, likely second offenders
-ALL of them got currency and items stripped from the accounts.

So IF they come back they will come back to a shell of an account.

That's bs.

Neither the Warcraft Client, nor the battlenet launcher scanns your RAm or CPU.

They just added the Botbehavior of every single Plugin, Botbase, etc into a filterscan of all your actions in the game. Do you really think blizzard does not buy Honorbuddy to investigate the bot behavior, etc?
As a giant company, having multiple lawyers, and after loosing against bossland in germany, do you really think they do something illegal like scanning your Pc for programms?

Nah, they don't.

Included into the behavior protocol is more than just movement. Also actions per frame, keeping rotation while moving, using chat while moving/doing combat. Etc. They even hired guys from germany and GB to code that shit.
Now annd then the behavior scan gets updated through the battlenetlauncher. So if something changes, it takes a few weeks to update the criteria. So you could have been lucky to avoid these updates if you just open wow.exe, not the launcher.
And if you use a cr.ack.ed Exe file, which set's off client status communication, to enable loading MPQ files to manipulate Models, etc, then even those updates won't help you.

My information is not 100%, but you can be sure they don't scan your Ram/CPU, etc.

 

[Greybush77]

what makes you so sure gold will be easy to get 6 months from now?

 

[ryftobuddy]

Not a single forum MVP is a blizzard employee, nor do they speak for the company. They are there to provide useful information, but there is absolutely zero chance that that guy has any clue as to what he's talking about, and there's no way an actual blizzard employee would say something remotely close to that concerning their detection schemes on the public forums.

Blizz posted their official word on the bans, they gave zero information how the detection occurred. Some forum MVP was actually WAY out of line in even speculating as to how a detection may have worked.

And Apoc didn't give up the source code for HB, He gave it up for Stormbuddy. Two completely different bots. Do some reading and gain some knowledge before you make statements like that.

 

[BuckFlizzard]

protip, blizzard forum mvp's are not actually mvps of anything. They are clueless. If you have pet-battle questions maybe they can help you there, that's about it.

 

[deknarf]

And Apoc didn't give up the source code for HB, He gave it up for Stormbuddy. Two completely different bots.

Uhm, "Completely different" would mean they do not share any software architecture.
Perhaps I can QFT:

Do some reading and gain some knowledge before you make statements like that.

The two are probably related. Just saying

 

[Juggernaut44]

its all pointless. Besides gold farmers ruining the economy what harm do bots do...Ive never seen a bot rank high enough in pvp to matter. Leveling harms who? And if u only use a CR who is that hurting you are not getting any ingame advantage other than not clicking buttons ...So bravo Blizz

 

[ryftobuddy]

Uhm, "Completely different" would mean they do not share any software architecture.
Perhaps I can QFT:


The two are probably related. Just saying

They're related in the same way that Windows and OSX are related. They are both software programs, they both share software architectures and the similarities end just about there.

Arguing that they are similar because they share software architectures is a silly argument at best and making such an argument makes you look silly.

 

[tdw]

Jadd's storry repeats?

 

[deknarf]

Making such an argument makes you look silly.

They share plenty.
How about the way both bots 'attach' themselves to the battle.net gameclients?
How about they way keypresses are submitted?
How about almost everything?

Sorry, I can't be bothered to make a list of possible similarities.
My argument is valid, despite your opinion of it being: "silly".

 

[ryftobuddy]

They share plenty.
How about the way both bots 'attach' themselves to the battle.net gameclients?
How about they way keypresses are submitted?
How about almost everything?

Sorry, I can't be bothered to make a list of possible similarities.
My argument is valid, despite your opinion of it being: "silly".

A lot of other bots do do all of these things, too...Are you saying that all these other bots are similar enough that if blizz got a hold of the source code, they could know exactly how HB works, too? You sure seem to think that's the case....

Your talking about a bot for a completely different game that shares absolutely zero similarities architecture wise with wow. Wow does not, never has and probably never will, rely on the battle.net client for launching. You can run wow without having the b.net client on your pc at all.

Can you prove to me that the keypress technology that both wow and HoTS use are the same? Can you prove to me that "almost everything" is the same? I'll answer both those questions for you...No, you can't.

 

[deknarf]

I'll answer both those questions for you

And I will elaborate:
I do not posses the source code of either.

Though, I never said - nor claimed - that obtaining the source-code to any buddybot would appear to be pandora's box to Blizzard.

Let me try one last time to explain (/sigh):
The first person to invent the wheel, did not automatically think of inventing bicycle.

 

[ryftobuddy]

And I will elaborate:
I do not posses the source code of either.

Though, I never said - nor claimed - that obtaining the source-code to any buddybot would appear to be pandora's box to Blizzard.

Let me try one last time to explain (/sigh):
The first person to invent the wheel, did not automatically think of inventing bicycle.

Actually, that is EXACTLY what you claimed. Go back and read your posts...You very CLEARLY stated that the architectures are similar enough that, yes, it was the pandor'a box for blizz. Don't try and twist your own words now, they're out there for everyone to see. Hell, you very, VERY clearly said that they share almost everything.

 

[deknarf]

Actually, that is EXACTLY what you claimed. Go back and read your posts...You very CLEARLY stated that the architectures are similar enough that, yes, it was the pandor'a box for blizz. Don't try and twist your own words now, they're out there for everyone to see. Hell, you very, VERY clearly said that they share almost everything.

The two are probably related.

Learn English or GTFO. Done with this BS back and forth.
My mom was right: "never argue with an idiot. they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

 

[ryftobuddy]

My English skills are great. I'll explain to you why you may want to work on your English skills though...

You see, there's this thing called chronological order. You may have said that in your initial post, but then you seemed to change your position and go on to say, and I quote:

They share plenty.
How about the way both bots 'attach' themselves to the battle.net gameclients?
How about they way keypresses are submitted?
How about almost everything?

You see that last line there? I clearly see it. I'm also pretty sure that everyone else can see it, too.

That quote from your mom is extremely strange...She sounds wise, yet not very at the same time. Saying that someone that is wiser than you is also an idiot is counter-intuitive at best, it also sounds like she's saying that all wise people are idiots...Strange...But at least you can admit that I am much wiser about these types of matters than yourself.

 

[Fahoods]

Link the source for this post please, I didn't find it through google

i will not link it cuz its not allowed here

 

[Fahoods]

gona put the pic on the main TOPIC on first page

 

[ryftobuddy]

i will not link it cuz its not allowed here

It also doesn't matter in the least bit as the MVP poster does not speak for blizz in any way. That dude has as much knowledge about the actual inner workings of blizz, as well as knowledge on their detection schemes as the lunch lady that serves in the cafeteria at blizz headquarters...Hell, he probably actually has less.

 

[Linnoel]

Learn English or GTFO. Done with this BS back and forth.
My mom was right: "never argue with an idiot. they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

Ryfo is a known troll. Dont let it get to you. He does this to everyone to overcompensate for his lack of knowledge and experience in the real world.
If you happen to beat him in an argument like I did in the past, he will complain to the mods and get you muted or banned.