Testimonial

[TC9869]

I don't believe there's a good place to post DB testimonials, but there seem to be plenty of people bitching about how bad it is, particularly vs "other bots." I feel like it's worth mentioning that DB is by far the safest bot on the market. I'd go as far as to say 100% safe (the program, not people idiotic use of it that leads to some bans). Just look at the track record with HB. A lot of people have mentioned how the "other bots" (my mind always interprets that as VS) have gotten them more g/hr, and I just read someone posting about how the other bot doesn't require "profiles" etc. That other bot is without a doubt going to get you banned, as the reason it "beats" DB is how it literally cheats with Maphacks and removing the logout timer. Also, since it can't use profiles, it can't do quests, and since it doesn't support "custom classes" it will never be capable of farming even moderately difficult content.

I'm currently getting 360k/hr+ over a multiple hour session, with no disconnects etc. I'm doing this on my main account, without fear of bans. With the other bot, I'd be looking at around 450k/hr. With the ever decreasing value of gold, even gold sellers who don't care about their account will soon realize having the account get banned is not worth that little extra g/hr. Particularly when that other bot states:
"

Purchases are single-license only. As of May 28, <XXX> customers are permitted to associate each purchase with only one game account."
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In other words, when you get banned, you also get to purchase a new bot license. They made this decision right when banwaves were announced too, what excellent timing...

If you seriously still want to go use that other bot, go ahead.. I don't want idiots like you drawing attention to DB anyways.

 

[Toney001]

I mostly agree with you. DB is the safest. I run HB on my main account (not for farming, but general use like LazyRaider and profession stuff), that's probably worth no less than 5k dollars in just vanity stuff, and have no fear whatsoever.
That said, the other bot doesn't just beat DB because of the logout timer, it's actually more efficient too. Logout timer aside, I still finish a core of arreat in around 30 seconds less with it.

At the current price of gold, I would be willing to sacrifice a bit of GPH just for the extra safety, but right now it's either have DB gets stuck for me at least every 10 mins. Times 7 accounts. I can't babysit it.
For now, I rather risk having my accounts banned than do nothing with them, but as soon as they fix the generating path problem that's getting it stuck so often, I'll be switching for good.

To each their own.

PS. You can change the account it's attached to, I BELIEVE (I have the multi account so I don't know for sure).

 

[Dylancrow]

I can second this. I was extremely disappointed at launch, but it is getting better by the day - you don't see other bots improving this rapidly and exponentially. I am currently getting 240k/hour on the Arreat profile and that's good enough for me. Only problem is crashes, yet the buddy team is working on Arelog now so in the short future that will not be an issue!

 

[TC9869]

At the current price of gold, I would be willing to sacrifice a bit of GPH just for the extra safety, but right now it's either have DB gets stuck for me at least every 10 mins. Times 7 accounts. I can't babysit it.
For now, I rather risk having my accounts banned than do nothing with them, but as soon as they fix the generating path problem that's getting it stuck so often, I'll be switching for good.

PS. You can change the account it's attached to, I BELIEVE (I have the multi account so I don't know for sure).

I don't know what to say about getting stuck, I've been running for five hours now and only gotten stuck once that I've seen, and Unstucker fixed it (no intervention needed on my behalf). And according to their website, it can't be changed, but I also got it before that so I'm not positive.

 

[Toney001]

I don't know what to say about getting stuck, I've been running for five hours now and only gotten stuck once that I've seen, and Unstucker fixed it (no intervention needed on my behalf). And according to their website, it can't be changed, but I also got it before that so I'm not positive.

/jealous

I actually posted a ton of logs on that thread Tony made for feedback. It's like, I hit start, tab out, 10 mins later I tab in and it's stuck. Rinse and repeat for two hours.
I gave up for now.

 

[stodderkonge]

ive closed my DB too cant even be assed using it as of now before thye fixed it and ofc they will. but prolly shouldnt have been released yet. or atleast it should have been tested abit better.

 

[Hammer]

I don't believe there's a good place to post DB testimonials, but there seem to be plenty of people bitching about how bad it is, particularly vs "other bots." I feel like it's worth mentioning that DB is by far the safest bot on the market. I'd go as far as to say 100% safe (the program, not people idiotic use of it that leads to some bans). Just look at the track record with HB. A lot of people have mentioned how the "other bots" (my mind always interprets that as VS) have gotten them more g/hr, and I just read someone posting about how the other bot doesn't require "profiles" etc. That other bot is without a doubt going to get you banned, as the reason it "beats" DB is how it literally cheats with Maphacks and removing the logout timer. Also, since it can't use profiles, it can't do quests, and since it doesn't support "custom classes" it will never be capable of farming even moderately difficult content.

I'm currently getting 360k/hr+ over a multiple hour session, with no disconnects etc. I'm doing this on my main account, without fear of bans. With the other bot, I'd be looking at around 450k/hr. With the ever decreasing value of gold, even gold sellers who don't care about their account will soon realize having the account get banned is not worth that little extra g/hr. Particularly when that other bot states:
"

Purchases are single-license only. As of May 28, <XXX> customers are permitted to associate each purchase with only one game account."
​

In other words, when you get banned, you also get to purchase a new bot license. They made this decision right when banwaves were announced too, what excellent timing...

If you seriously still want to go use that other bot, go ahead.. I don't want idiots like you drawing attention to DB anyways.

You can attach that license to a new account.

The other bot doesn't beat DemonBuddy simply because of its hacks. The only hack it uses to give itself an advantage is the instant disconnect. That's a 5s advantage because DemonBuddy teleports to town before disconnecting.

The reason why the other bot is so much more efficient is due to several things:

- Much superior pathing. It glides along its waypoints smoothly. It doesn't walk back and forth and it sure as hell does not need to wait upwards of several minutes to download the next waypoint from a server.

- Much superior combat logic. It doesn't attack the enemy once, walk back three steps, and then go back to attack another time. The combat logic for the other bot is smooth. It uses the spells in a configurable rotation and it properly targets enemies to get shit done.

To attribute all of the differences in efficiency between the bots to hacks is just a gross, uneducated oversimplification.

 

[TC9869]

- Much superior pathing. It glides along its waypoints smoothly. It doesn't walk back and forth and it sure as hell does not need to wait upwards of several minutes to download the next waypoint from a server.

- Much superior combat logic. It doesn't attack the enemy once, walk back three steps, and then go back to attack another time. The combat logic for the other bot is smooth. It uses the spells in a configurable rotation and it properly targets enemies to get shit done.

For pathing, I agree, but don't you think the maphack has to do with that? That's another example of a hack giving an advantage (I could be mistaken about this, but I'm pretty sure that's why it doesn't need profiles/waypoints). And several minutes, really? My average run is probably 1:30, 1:45 tops through Arreat, and that's counting logout time.

For combat, I don't know, my 60 DH 1 shots everything on Arreat Nightmare so I've never had any issues with errant movement or target swaps. It changes targets when I get shielding mobs, but that's a good thing.

 

[Hammer]

For pathing, I agree, but don't you think the maphack has to do with that? That's another example of a hack giving an advantage (I could be mistaken about this, but I'm pretty sure that's why it doesn't need profiles/waypoints).

For combat, I don't know, my 60 DH 1 shots everything on Arreat Nightmare so I've never had any issues with errant movement or target swaps. It changes targets when I get shielding mobs, but that's a good thing.

No. The maphack does not give an advantage except for being able to shoot ashes and urns from further away. If you turn off the maphack while running Core of Arreat, you will notice no loss in efficiency.

 

[TC9869]

Odd... then why exactly does it generate paths and run so much smoother? lol

 

[Toney001]

Odd... then why exactly does it generate paths and run so much smoother? lol

Because it doesn't COMPLETELY suck...?

EDIT: I never turned on the maphack (why would I?), and I make 500k GPH @ Core.

 

[TC9869]

I made 450 there and 360 here, the runs there were probably.. 15 seconds faster for me on average, obviously the gold accumulated is the same.

 

[Hammer]

I have two very similarly geared Barbarians both running Core of Arreat. One is using a competing bot. One is using DemonBuddy.

The competing bot is at 450k/hour. DemonBuddy bot is at 100k/hour.

The biggest issue is that the DemonBuddy bot takes 10-60 seconds to download each waypoint.

Odd... then why exactly does it generate paths and run so much smoother? lol

It's been said over 100x on this forum. It's because DemonBuddy has major problems with pathing. It requires you to download waypoints from their server each damn time you run the same profile. The server is terrible and unresponsive so it takes upwards of 30 seconds to download each waypoint. Though, the pathing also sucks for other reasons. The server lag doesn't explain the bot's tendency to move back and forth.

The other bot is just significantly better at pathing and DemonBuddy sucks in comparison.

 

[Grrarrgh]

Whilst i cant speak for the competitions bots, i must say for me Db has been great, perhaps ive been lucky as ive had no pathing problems, no waiting for waypoints... its almost like were using a different product, had an occasional crash but that only happened with one profile, since then have had 2 sessions going fine, one sarkoth inferno with (witch-doctor) other on core nm (demonhunter).

also i would add that given buddys track record of updates, and a great community of folks always making new stuff, i have very high hopes for the future with Db.

 

[abckid0857]

to me, if ppl have actually used both DB and IB, they will see the differences. DB at the current state has only 1 thing better than IB that is the warden protection, that's what i heard (didnt use buddy products before), but other than that, performance wise IB > DB for now.. no doubt

 

[TC9869]

Id be interested i knowing what separates the people having long pathing times from the people not... are you guys all multibotting? Not taking the time to read the threads and finding the best version of the profile you're using? In Europe? They forums are filled with countless people who are having good results with DB, so it can't just be the bot...

 

[stormwarr1]

5k vanity stuff WoW account? I saw a warlock with heroic DS gear, dragonwrath, ateish and invincible horsie + 100 other mounts which wasn't selling for the advertised price of $300. Dream on dude.

 

[Hammer]

Id be interested i knowing what separates the people having long pathing times from the people not... are you guys all multibotting? Not taking the time to read the threads and finding the best version of the profile you're using? In Europe? They forums are filled with countless people who are having good results with DB, so it can't just be the bot...

What makes you think that problems with the nav server have anything to do with user-error? Do you honestly think that using different profiles dictate problems with the nav server? Many of the people posting "good results" have no idea what to expect from a bot. They probably wouldn't even notice the 5-30 second wait time before each next waypoint because they have no idea how a bot with proper pathing should perform.

Furthermore, users with multi-botters are much more likely to spot problems. It's SIMPLE PROBABILITY. More bots = higher likelihood of encountering bugs.

We attack the gold sellers for having many bots and complaining about the problems of DemonBuddy. These people are more experienced than any of you who are botting for simple personal use! "I bot so I can buy stuff for my main." You think you have as much experience as the guy who bots to make it his living? Good for you that you think it's enough to satisfy your petty needs of paying for your repair fees. But it's not enough for people with expectations.

Personally, I bot on 6 accounts to farm gold for myself. That's just about how much gold I need to have myself geared to my satisfaction.

Can't just the be the bot? We have 10+ page threads detailing every aspect of DemonBuddy where it is behind compared to its competitors. Anyone who has tried more than one bot knows that it is behind in EVERY ASPECT except for "Warden protection" at the moment.

Stop making uninformed posts which only withhold progress. The problems are real and people have pointed them out, again and again, with proper evidence supporting their claims. Tony has even acknowledged the nav issues and intends to fix them in the upcoming patch.

 

[stormwarr1]

I had problems with the nav server once so far, the other day, lasted for about 2 hours. 5 second waits between checkpoints? Lol, you're doing it wrong.

 

[iCKR]

What makes you think that problems with the nav server have anything to do with user-error? Do you honestly think that using different profiles dictate problems with the nav server? Many of the people posting "good results" have no idea what to expect from a bot. They probably wouldn't even notice the 5-30 second wait time before each next waypoint because they have no idea how a bot with proper pathing should perform.

Furthermore, users with multi-botters are much more likely to spot problems. It's SIMPLE PROBABILITY. More bots = higher likelihood of encountering bugs.

We attack the gold sellers for having many bots and complaining about the problems of DemonBuddy. These people are more experienced than any of you who are botting for simple personal use! "I bot so I can buy stuff for my main." You think you have as much experience as the guy who bots to make it his living? Good for you that you think it's enough to satisfy your petty needs of paying for your repair fees. But it's not enough for people with expectations.

Personally, I bot on 6 accounts to farm gold for myself. That's just about how much gold I need to have myself geared to my satisfaction.

Can't just the be the bot? We have 10+ page threads detailing every aspect of DemonBuddy where it is behind compared to its competitors. Anyone who has tried more than one bot knows that it is behind in EVERY ASPECT except for "Warden protection" at the moment.

Stop making uninformed posts which only withhold progress. The problems are real and people have pointed them out, again and again, with proper evidence supporting their claims. Tony has even acknowledged the nav issues and intends to fix them in the upcoming patch.

You've been the most objective user in this thread. Thumbs up. OP probably has not actually tested all bots to such an extensive intensity, all his comments apparently seem very misconstrued. On a side note, both bots have their pros and cons at this point. Only time will tell which is the better one...