Strange Turning?

[tsincaat]

EDIT: Fixed by using a slower tank. Thanks Aevitas!

As you will see in the below video (from my tank) I am a complete newbie to World of Tanks, so perhaps this is a problem with my setup or just a smart tactical maneuver on the bot's part. Anyway what happens in a lot of cases is the bot does this backup/turn thing when navigating around. It's not a complete giveaway, but to my eyes it looks a little botlike when you can just turn on your axis. It'll do it with no obstacles around, but it'll also do it near objects sometimes and get stuck on them, at which point it just sits there. Anyway, is this intended behavior or a problem?

[Video Removed as no longer needed]

Log If this is unintended (though at least the last part can be seen in the bot window)

[2012-03-17 16:58:41.987] Logging in...
[16:58:41.987] Targeting mode: Execute
[16:58:41.989] OS Culture: en-US
[16:58:42.038] [Debug] Finished exporting images to C:\Users\*****\AppData\Roaming\TankLeader
[16:58:42.722] 
[16:58:42.723] Logged in! Initializing.
[16:58:42.768] TankLeader v1.0.0.343 started
[16:58:42.768] Using WoT with process ID 10936
[16:58:42.768] Executable Path: G:\Downloads\Gaming\Tankleader\TankLeader.exe
[16:59:05.084] Starting TankLeader
[16:59:05.107] [Debug] Refreshing garage vehicles..
[16:59:05.472] Queue priority: (0) BT-2, (1) SU-18, (2) MS-1, 


[Deleted Log up to last battle]


[17:14:19.245] [Debug] Refreshing garage vehicles..
[17:14:20.060] Status: Queueing
[17:14:20.060] New state: Queueing
[17:14:20.257] Queueing for battle with with Light Tank BT-2.
[17:14:33.008] Loaded waypoints for map '04_himmelsdorf'
[17:14:33.010] Waiting for players.
[17:14:33.025] Status: WaitingForPlayers
[17:14:33.025] New state: WaitingForPlayers
[17:14:33.128] Waiting for players.
[17:14:43.504] Waiting for battle to start.
[17:14:43.514] Status: WaitingForGameStart
[17:14:43.514] New state: WaitingForGameStart
[17:14:43.583] Waiting for battle to start.
[17:15:13.422] New Objective: Search and destroy!
[17:15:13.422] [Debug] Hotspot changed! Previous: <17.97084, 1.788138E-07, -248.4419> - New: <356.247, 15.39925, -272.3918> - Expiry: 00:02:00
[17:15:13.424] [Debug] Moving to: <356.247, 15.39925, -272.3918>
[17:15:14.146] [Debug] Generated path to <356.247, 15.39925, -272.3918> in 714.30 ms
[17:15:14.194] Status: Moving
[17:15:14.194] New state: Moving
[17:15:14.266] [Debug] Moving to: <356.247, 15.39925, -272.3918>
[17:16:12.032] Status: Camping
[17:16:12.032] New state: Camping
[17:16:12.032] Status: Waiting for 00:01:01.3896477 at <356.247, 15.39925, -272.3918>.
[17:16:13.096] Status: Waiting for 00:01:00.3255868 at <356.247, 15.39925, -272.3918>.
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[17:17:12.572] Status: Waiting for 00:00:00.8491849 at <356.247, 15.39925, -272.3918>.
[17:17:13.602] New Objective: Search and destroy!
[17:17:13.602] [Debug] Hotspot changed! Previous: <356.247, 15.39925, -272.3918> - New: <385.5422, 49, 92.78496> - Expiry: 00:02:00
[17:17:13.602] Status: Waiting for 00:02:00 at <385.5422, 49, 92.78496>.
[17:17:14.637] Status: Waiting for 00:01:58.9649408 at <385.5422, 49, 92.78496>.
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[17:17:21.885] Status: Waiting for 00:01:51.7175263 at <385.5422, 49, 92.78496>.
[17:17:22.926] [Debug] Moving to: <385.5422, 49, 92.78496>
[17:17:23.621] [Debug] Generated path to <385.5422, 49, 92.78496> in 687.56 ms
[17:17:23.643] Status: Moving
[17:17:23.643] New state: Moving
[17:17:23.702] [Debug] Moving to: <385.5422, 49, 92.78496>
[17:18:14.063] Status: Camping
[17:18:14.063] New state: Camping
[17:18:14.063] Status: Waiting for 00:00:59.5395419 at <385.5422, 49, 92.78496>.
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[17:19:14.369] New Objective: Search and destroy!
[17:19:14.369] [Debug] Hotspot changed! Previous: <385.5422, 49, 92.78496> - New: <17.97084, 1.788138E-07, -248.4419> - Expiry: 00:02:00
[17:19:14.369] Status: Waiting for 00:02:00 at <17.97084, 1.788138E-07, -248.4419>.
[17:19:15.405] [Debug] Moving to: <17.97084, 1.788138E-07, -248.4419>
[17:19:16.179] [Debug] Generated path to <17.97084, 1.788138E-07, -248.4419> in 766.26 ms
[17:19:16.202] Status: Moving
[17:19:16.202] New state: Moving
[17:19:16.232] [Debug] Moving to: <17.97084, 1.788138E-07, -248.4419>
[17:19:38.366] Leaving battle..
[17:19:43.794] Tank: Light Tank BT-2 - Kills: 0
Tank: SPGs SU-18 - Kills: 0


[17:19:43.794] Stopping TankLeader
[17:33:50.742] [Error] WoT exited!

 

[Dre]

Looks like the bot has a collision detector, but I could be wrong.

 

[ashantz]

That is very strange looking and haven't seen it on any of mine. Just watching one now it did a complete axis turn in place knocking down trees to move with no jerking like yours.

It does have some form of collision logic with it such as other tanks or buildings / rocks; though typically it does a backup then right turn slightly to get around. But if you come up at speed on a friendly tank it will sometimes get them a love tap before doing the avoid move.

 

[Sillywet]

must admit, this has happened to me as well, but only in the BT-2, BT-7, T-50 and T-50-2, all other have been ok, must be something to do with the tanks in-game acceleration

 

[Aevitas]

This is most likely to happen in "very fast" tanks, like the BT-2, BT-7 and the sorts. What happens is it'll try to navigate to a certain point, but because it is "too fast", it'll miss that point, at which point it'll try to reverse and hit the point again. The result is what you see. It's not intended, and it only happens on a handful of light, very fast scouting vehicles. Navigating in this game is inherently harder than it is in for example World of Warcraft. You have to take into account the various speeds of vehicles, turns speeds, turning angles, etc. This is why movement may at times look a bit clunky.

There is indeed a collision detector which detects when you collide with other vehicles; it moves back, turns, and tries to go around. That's not happening here though.

 

[tsincaat]

This is most likely to happen in "very fast" tanks, like the BT-2, BT-7 and the sorts. What happens is it'll try to navigate to a certain point, but because it is "too fast", it'll miss that point, at which point it'll try to reverse and hit the point again. The result is what you see. It's not intended, and it only happens on a handful of light, very fast scouting vehicles. Navigating in this game is inherently harder than it is in for example World of Warcraft. You have to take into account the various speeds of vehicles, turns speeds, turning angles, etc. This is why movement may at times look a bit clunky.

There is indeed a collision detector which detects when you collide with other vehicles; it moves back, turns, and tries to go around. That's not happening here though.

Cheers, thanks for the explanation. Now using a slower tank and it's working a lot better!