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Lollaskates

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What's the deal? It looks like server-side detection is in place for repetitive bot-like behavior detection for EU, a good handful of people banned, etc. I'm told its within reason to expect something similar on US in ~24hrs or so.

Should I just leave all of my accounts offline and wait it out, or run Sark straight through it.
 
You're probably already flagged if you're going to get banned.
 
You're probably already flagged if you're going to get banned.

Wrong, if you read the ban posts more carefully they ban bots that ARE RUNNING during the scan and are kicked out of bnet after being banned. As it has been said thousand times it is not DB detection, but it is bot behaviour scipt they use.

The way I see it (and that's just a wild assumption)

1. Blizzard sees botting as a virus and use anti-virus script to get it.
2. Script cannot see the virus by its characteristics /DB is not detectable by Warden/
3. Scipt works by behaviouristic analysis as it follows:
3.1 Checking the database for ONLINE players either with: a) 100m gold achievements, b) total time played, c) total up-time for the past few days
3.2 IF a player is ONLINE and meets any of the mentioned above, the script: a) notifies a LIVING EMPLOYEE that does further investigation, checks what the character is currently running, its moves & coordinates, game creation, anything that tells it's an automated program and not a real player; or b) the script goes in another mode and starts screening for the above "signs" of automation.
3.3 The blizzard script "screens" the account online session for xx time and based on the observations determines if it is a real player or a bot and then eventually bans.

And honestly what living creature would do Sark runs for even 1 hour with the same game create delay, not even with 2 min pause for a piss or a smoke? That yells "botting" and even if there is a chance for errors, it wouldn't be more than 1% which I'm sure they are ok to take it.
 
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Please link your awesome source....

Nothing to see here, just more speculation like it's been the past two days
 
Please link your awesome source....

Nothing to see here, just more speculation like it's been the past two days

if you read my first sentance:
"The way I see it (and that's just a wild assumption)"

but after reading ALL bot threads / posts it is not hard to see how they do it, or at least assume. ALL banned bots have been online and running while detected.
 
if you read my first sentance:
"The way I see it (and that's just a wild assumption)"

but after reading ALL bot threads / posts it is not hard to see how they do it, or at least assume. ALL banned bots have been online and running while detected.

Just because I post below you doesn't mean I'm talking directly to you....
 
I have not read up on all the ban posts but prior to like the past 2 days my bot has been running 24/7 non stop with no change to delays (if you have to manual set that up then i did not even have delays im not sure). and no bans here. thats my 2 copper
 
I have not read up on all the ban posts but prior to like the past 2 days my bot has been running 24/7 non stop with no change to delays (if you have to manual set that up then i did not even have delays im not sure). and no bans here. thats my 2 copper

You are on Americas and there are NO BANS there yet.
But even if you are on EU servers botting doesn't mean you will get banned on 100%. As devs already stated it is "bad luck", as you are not detected by the program you use but the way you play the game. The 1m dollar question is how effective their behaviouristic analysis is and whether they can scan 1% of the players at a time or a lot more. If it is human work involved it cannot be massive and you can call it "bad luck" for you being investigated.
 
I just got 2 accs. Main acc and bot acc.
I just have one "bot account" and i keep botting like 24/7 if i don't get any crashes. And i'm gonna keep going it, i don't really care about ban but i do for a Sarkoth nerf.
 
Again 24/7 has nothing to do with getting banned..
i was botting 10-15 hours with 5 acc. 1 is banned. whats going on with the other ones?

other ppl. from EU botting 24/7 3 weeks now and still fine no ban yet...

so dont say its always 24/7 there is something else
 
Wrong, if you read the ban posts more carefully they ban bots that ARE RUNNING during the scan and are kicked out of bnet after being banned. As it has been said thousand times it is not DB detection, but it is bot behaviour scipt they use.

The way I see it (and that's just a wild assumption)

1. Blizzard sees botting as a virus and use anti-virus script to get it.
2. Script cannot see the virus by its characteristics /DB is not detectable by Warden/
3. Scipt works by behaviouristic analysis as it follows:
3.1 Checking the database for ONLINE players either with: a) 100m gold achievements, b) total time played, c) total up-time for the past few days
3.2 IF a player is ONLINE and meets any of the mentioned above, the script: a) notifies a LIVING EMPLOYEE that does further investigation, checks what the character is currently running, its moves & coordinates, game creation, anything that tells it's an automated program and not a real player; or b) the script goes in another mode and starts screening for the above "signs" of automation.
3.3 The blizzard script "screens" the account online session for xx time and based on the observations determines if it is a real player or a bot and then eventually bans.

And honestly what living creature would do Sark runs for even 1 hour with the same game create delay, not even with 2 min pause for a piss or a smoke? That yells "botting" and even if there is a chance for errors, it wouldn't be more than 1% which I'm sure they are ok to take it.

I have botted since early d2 days, when d2jsp came out, so I guess you could say im somewhat of a veteran? I'm not one who typically goes off speculation or sky is falling posts, but I agree with this almost 100%, for a few reasons:

A-You can see EU has been hit by this. Sure, some people that got banned probably did other things like sell to Chinese IPs, but there are some who claim they haven't used any other bot / hack / sold any gold.
B- AH bans from Auto-it based bots. Again, sure you could claim the constant querying was the main result of this, but I think there is more to it than that.
C-I'm not sure how many of you have botted wow on a mass scale within the past year or so, but at my peak i was doing 10-15 accounts at once. Before i got completely out of it, at random (outside of any other mass banwaves), i'd have 10+ accounts banned instantly at once. After appealing, i'd get all but ONE of those accounts back. I always botted in random, low pop areas, never did 24/7, and mostly gathering type profiles in which i spent most of my time in the air. These bans, lead me to believe that there was some logging going on in which they set some threshold that'd flag accounts. IE: Collecting 500x nodes within 24 hour period. Once your account was flagged, they'd manually have a person do a review of the account. If it looked like it was botted, they would then look at something that tied all accounts together (IP, some hardware id, whatever) and banned the other ones as well.

After 4-5 of those big *individual* mass bans, i eventually gave up. The time needed to invest vs bans vs the price of gold just made it not profitable to bot anymore. I have had a few other "big" players confirm similar things happen to them as well (i was in this underground botting community for a while, where everyone had 10+ accounts that were botting at any given point). My assumption was this logging was partially triggered by the upcoming release of D3. They obviously knew how much d2 was botted, and they weren't able to do much about it (ya, bots got banned, but shit like mmobot (auto-it) would run weeks at a time without any fear of getting banned). They probably thought the next best thing to do would implement some sort of pattern detection to combat this.

Take this how you will, as i know many of you still refuse to ever even consider any sort of theory that Blizzard is doing anything but using warden / player reports to ban people. All i know is, i'm going to be working on my own form of randomized profiles.
 
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So i'm gunna ask the question that everyone wants to ask, what can the devs or profile/plugin makers do about it so combat pattern detection?
 
So i'm gunna ask the question that everyone wants to ask, what can the devs or profile/plugin makers do about it so combat pattern detection?

first and foremost, create functionality to navigate random areas; much like d2jsp used to do.
 
What i see is most people got banned are running multiple bots.
 
What i see is most people got banned are running multiple bots.

That's just the nature of botting, many people run more than one bot by default.

Besides, there were a few posts in there of people getting banned that only had one account. It really shouldn't matter how many accounts people are using, the threshold would be set on an account by account basis.
 
I see it all comes down to GPH as the No 1 FLAG

How fast can a human actually farm? What is the best GPH someone could sustainably do over hours? I'd like so see someone farm sarkorth manually and as efficiently as a bot for 2 hours and achieve +500k GPH.
 
I see it all comes down to GPH as the No 1 FLAG

How fast can a human actually farm? What is the best GPH someone could sustainably do over hours? I'd like so see someone farm sarkorth manually and as efficiently as a bot for 2 hours and achieve +500k GPH.

possible. but not with 8 accounts at once without a bot :-)
 
Have my one account still botting strong on EU.

been 24/7 near enough since release, used HB, IB and now DB the account hasnt loged out in a week and still farming sarkoth as i write.
 
Or you could be having a lan party with 8 child labourers NIKE style,

'just do it'
 
Makes me wonder since it has only been EU if maybe Bliz is looking for German bots for the upcoming July 10th hearing. That way they can say between the time of the injunction and now we have banned x number of German bots. That way they can prove and say the Buddy staff is unable to control where and whom uses the bots. Not sure that would help Bliz but just speculation.
 
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