Should the Buddy team outsource some help to get bot working?

[imap30]

Seems like there is zero development for the bot. If they don't have enough time to do proper work on their software, they need to hire some help. Random dungeons should have worked a long time ago.

I don't remember D2JSP ever having these kind of problems.

 

[Ash]

Isn't that already what they do w/ community devs?

 

[shwn]

Wow. maybe you should write a bot for us that does all you want. Just read "c++ the easy way" and get to it. Or go buy that other bot that outperforms HB and doesnt have any down time. Or maybe they should ask blizz for some help..SMH.

 

[bmoney]

I know I just started using, but it has run great for me. Just bought a second account so it can run my main. Discovering I like botting way more than the game. Wasn't a Hawker a community dev on glider back in the day? Glider was the same way, merc kept it running and the community built new features like ppather

 

[CodenameG]

I know I just started using, but it has run great for me. Just bought a second account so it can run my main. Discovering I like botting way more than the game. Wasn't a Hawker a community dev on glider back in the day? Glider was the same way, merc kept it running and the community built new features like ppather

we've tried to emulate the community experience of glider. if you remember, almost the entire bot was community based. all that came with the bot was 2 profiles, a night elf level 1-5 grinding and some other one, and very very basic custom classes that did one spec, and where pretty not good to use, in order to get you to buy thier premium subscription, and pay $5 a month. you gotta also remember the only real thing it did was grinding, to get it to do anything else you would of had to spend money on other addons to get it to do pvp.
all those things you guys have hated and we have had to change. now our bot, can pretty much stand on its own for almost anything you wanna do out of the box, not only that but we support just about every aspect of the game, not just grinding and we've had to invest in a customclass that can deal with whatever a user will toss at it, both in terms of character customization and in terms of the scenarios it would find itself it. not only that, but where as glider would of cost you upwards of $20 just to use a decent CC, we're only charging you $60 (ish, theres currency issues) for a bot you can use till they decide to shut down wow, that can do 100 times more then glider ever could.

now, people are like "why arent you guys updated, it would of only taken glider a week" its because we have a few thousand more lines of code we need to update, its a complicated bot, that only makes things more complicated by the fact that when blizzard has an issue, we have to code around it. as for the community, we've been "out sourcing" as much as we can, kicks now on the team making profiles and whatever we need him to do, Highvolts is now working on the team for PB and Dungeon buddy. rahus came in as a CC dev and went to someone they trust working on the HB core. so the best people in the community are already on payroll, and EVERYONE is working as hard as they can get everything finished.

oh and btw, people are just bitching about release dates, but not only have things been updated but they are being improved as well, one thread i kept seeing every 2 weeks is the ability to re-compile CC so you dont have to restart honorbuddy every time, and that is implemented. as well as DX11 support, and about a dozen other things that people have been bitching about.

 

[shwn]

Excellent answer G. Much better than my "quit ur bitching"!
GJ sir and thanks.

 

[CodenameG]

Excellent answer G. Much better than my "quit ur bitching"!
GJ sir and thanks.

by the way the answer to the poll is "they already have."

 

[PKSays]

Walter, curious what your stance is on Giles? I noticed he's not on the team but might be a good person to have with you guys =O

 

[CodenameG]

Walter, curious what your stance is on Giles? I noticed he's not on the team but might be a good person to have with you guys =O

if someone isnt on the team its because they haven't stood out enough to notice, or we don't think they can do the jobs (when we have them) we would give them, just someone making profiles, unless we have a huge order to fill like we did with swtor, its hard for anyone to stick out, since kick does such a great job, the need for people that know how to code profiles is low. we need more people that really know C#, and can make CC's, Plugins, and Botbases. that doesn't mean to say his name hasn't come up, when talking to internally, but that mean we haven't needed him so we haven't asked for his / her help.

 

[PKSays]

if someone isnt on the team its because they haven't stood out enough to notice, or we don't think they can do the jobs (when we have them) we would give them, just someone making profiles, unless we have a huge order to fill like we did with swtor, its hard for anyone to stick out, since kick does such a great job, the need for people that know how to code profiles is low. we need more people that really know C#, and can make CC's, Plugins, and Botbases. that doesn't mean to say his name hasn't come up, when talking to internally, but that mean we haven't needed him so we haven't asked for his / her help.

thanks for the reply I just assumed it would have since he has the number one plugin that most monks/barbs use for farming champs. Btw sorry if you took offense to me calling you Walter, it's just the only nickname I can see that fits you with that avatar.

 

[CodenameG]

thanks for the reply I just assumed it would have since he has the number one plugin that most monks/barbs use for farming champs. Btw sorry if you took offense to me calling you Walter, it's just the only nickname I can see that fits you with that avatar.

its going to change, probably today, dont get used to it

 

[PKSays]

its going to change, probably today, dont get used to it

as long as it's not skyler i'm chill.

 

[dookiepie]

if someone isnt on the team its because they haven't stood out enough to notice, or we don't think they can do the jobs (when we have them) we would give them, just someone making profiles, unless we have a huge order to fill like we did with swtor, its hard for anyone to stick out, since kick does such a great job, the need for people that know how to code profiles is low. we need more people that really know C#, and can make CC's, Plugins, and Botbases. that doesn't mean to say his name hasn't come up, when talking to internally, but that mean we haven't needed him so we haven't asked for his / her help.

Giles isn't a profile maker, so I'm guessing whenever you guys discussed him "internally" you were tossing around erroneous information.

Forgive me for being blunt, but he's practically rewritten every shoddy aspect of your Diablo 3 bot to be functional and user-friendly. You may want to reinvestigate and reconsider.

 

[CodenameG]

Giles isn't a profile maker, so I'm guessing whenever you guys discussed him "internally" you were tossing around erroneous information.

Forgive me for being blunt, but he's practically rewritten every shoddy aspect of your Diablo 3 bot to be functional and user-friendly. You may want to reinvestigate and reconsider.

if we need him, we will tap him. its really as simple as that. i THOUGHT he only made profiles. i take care of the forums on top of doing other things i can keep track of what every little thing everyone does. ether way, we rarely keep people on staff, most people we bring in, we just bring in for certain things, otherwise the business would be too top heavy and then fail. but ultimately the people we can bring in depends on sales, and that depends on our users.

 

[bmoney]

If I remember correctly , the 5$ a month was so you could minimize glider and USE custom classes. so 32usd for a year isnt too bad. Everyone was just happy to have a commercial bot that worked. The bot and community sparked my interest enough to get a computer science degree

 

[Radonic]

Tbh i dont care about updates or no updates atm, because ive used HB for a long time and i know that even HB have had months without updates that people really wanted. Thats just life and how it is.

My biggest concern about Demonbuddy is that that DB forum section is starting to look more and more like Ownedcore.
With picking on people, breaking the rules, not reading OP before posting, trolling and just a negative approach to
Demonbuddy community. What is awesome though is that we got both the DB channel on IRC and the ciggarc channel
where you can help and discuss the bot on a more, down to earth manner. This is atleast what keeps me around!
If we only had these forums i think most devs would be gone with the wind...

I hope you wont defend yourself to this criticism, instead think about how to improve the forums and the climate we
are going to develop this bot in.

// Radonic

 

[devious21]

if someone isnt on the team its because they haven't stood out enough to notice, or we don't think they can do the jobs (when we have them) we would give them, just someone making profiles, unless we have a huge order to fill like we did with swtor, its hard for anyone to stick out, since kick does such a great job, the need for people that know how to code profiles is low. we need more people that really know C#, and can make CC's, Plugins, and Botbases. that doesn't mean to say his name hasn't come up, when talking to internally, but that mean we haven't needed him so we haven't asked for his / her help.

I don't mean to be offensive CodenameG, but that is one of the worst posts I have seen in a while.
Let's review:
You need more people that can make CC's and Plugins?
Lets take a look at what GilesSmith has created for demonbuddy:

Profiles: 0
Combat Routines: Giles Combat Replacer, Giles Trinity
Plugins: Giles Stash Replacer, Giles Monster Priority Changer, Giles World Object Handler, Giles Auto Gear Upgrader and Equipper, and most importantly:
Giles Trinity.

Each and every one of these plugins has been a MASSIVE improvement over default DB.
Giles Trinity replaces the looting AND combat aspect of demonbuddy entirely, while also providing intelligent target prioritization and world object handling.

Simply put, referring to him as "just someone making profiles" isn't only ignorant, it's actually a bit insulting to the community. Do you guys not even pay attention?

 

[CodenameG]

I don't mean to be offensive CodenameG, but that is one of the worst posts I have seen in a while.
Let's review:
You need more people that can make CC's and Plugins?
Lets take a look at what GilesSmith has created for demonbuddy:

Profiles: 0
Combat Routines: Giles Combat Replacer, Giles Trinity
Plugins: Giles Stash Replacer, Giles Monster Priority Changer, Giles World Object Handler, Giles Auto Gear Upgrader and Equipper, and most importantly:
Giles Trinity.

Each and every one of these plugins has been a MASSIVE improvement over default DB.
Giles Trinity replaces the looting AND combat aspect of demonbuddy entirely, while also providing intelligent target prioritization and world object handling.

Simply put, referring to him as "just someone making profiles" isn't only ignorant, it's actually a bit insulting to the community. Do you guys not even pay attention?

99% of what i was talking about where generalizations, for all products, not a certain persons work. like i said, i dont know. ive never used his stuff or even looked at his thread, like i said i have to take care of the forums and have OTHER things to deal with.
if he does more then thats cool, but ive never seen first hand what he does, and i IN NO WAY get to pick or chose who gets tapped or picked to do what. so if you would stop talking like "your not paying him cause you dont know what he does" its not my place. has NOTHING to do with me. he has a donation link there, im sure, if you like what he does then donate.

 

[dookiepie]

Since we've got you reading here, would it be too much to ask that you appoint someone active in the DemonBuddy community to moderator status? I don't care who it is - just someone you think is respectable and trustworthy. It would be great if Radonic, Devious, Giles, or someone had the ability to clean up threads and keep them on topic. It would be equally awesome if they could selectively ban/mute/prevent people from posting in certain forums to cut down on all the trolls (of which I am admittedly one, on occasion).

Please, please take this request under consideration. These forums could be a much more respectable and productive place if someone was around to take the reins.

 

[CodenameG]

Since we've got you reading here, would it be too much to ask that you appoint someone active in the DemonBuddy community to moderator status? I don't care who it is - just someone you think is respectable and trustworthy. It would be great if Radonic, Devious, Giles, or someone had the ability to clean up threads and keep them on topic. It would be equally awesome if they could selectively ban/mute/prevent people from posting in certain forums to cut down on all the trolls (of which I am admittedly one, on occasion).

Please, please take this request under consideration. These forums could be a much more respectable and productive place if someone was around to take the reins.

the only time we've hired moderators for specific things is for different languages, and even then they not only moderate but provide support as well.
if you have a problem with someone trolling then report the post and Me or someone else will look into the problem.
you want, someene to "clean" the forums, but when we do, (because for the most part i used to) you say we're censoring threads. so all the threads, like this one, that stay open, we keep open to allow you guys to vent, rather then take it into other peoples threads and cause more problems.