ShamWOW for HB2 - An Enhance/Elemental/Resto + PVP/RaF Healbot by Bobby53

[zeldrak]

Testing uncovered a couple issues with the revised healing. Since that was a strength of the prior release, I am holding off on posting the new release until I know it performs at least as well. Year end is a busy time for me professionally and personally. I thought it would already be posted, but I underestimated the test-fix-retest cycles needed due to the number of changes in this release and overestimated how much time I would have to work on them. So I'll hold off on an ETA but it should hopefully be soon. Thanks for the post, Bobby53

Hey, I completely understand bobby. That's perfectly fine as well. I was just curious, and you've been informative enough. I can't ask for more. Like I said earlier, the current version works just fine. I'd rather it work properly over you getting it out quickly. I'm all for quality over quantity. Make it shine like it always has and I'll wait as long as I need to.

You take it easy during work, and in your personal life, and don't push things too hard bobby. Keep up the good work, and some time after the new year I may be able to throw a little Christmas/New Year's gift your way if you accept things like that.

 

[bobby53]

Sorry to be a nusiance if this has been asked already but the thread is 118 pages long and doing a search on feral spirits brings up the thread in search not the post. Im currently finding feral spirits really arent used all that often when im watching my toon. he sits at half health and wont pull out his dogs unless he gets adds and even then he doesnt do that till he is nearly dead. What setting is used to determine at what health % the pups get called, and how do i make him call them on single pulls, becos my own profiles i dont mind him killing elites (which your cc does well except for the down timedue to no pups being called).

Not a nuisance at all Ceduna, but based upon your description I'm guessing you are referring to the above while using a Grinding profile so I'll answer in that context. Go to the Grinding tab of ShamWOW Configuration (accessed by HB's CC Configuration button.) A couple options work together to give you control over Feral Spirit.

The Stressful Fight Abilities allows you to designate abilities you want to save for casting only during stressful fights. If an option is checked, the ability is only cast when your involved in a Stressful Fight. If not-checked, then it will cast the ability when it comes off cooldown and you are in combat.

What is a Stressful Fight? The default values appear below the checkboxes, so if you fight a mob 3+ levels higher than your current level or 2 or more mobs at once. Fighting an Elite or another Player is always considered stressful.

So, if I understand your scenario correctly you can cause Feral Spirit to be cast when off cooldown by clearing the Feral Spirit checkbox in the list of abilities to save for stressful fights. By default, that ability is checked so it is saved for circumstances that require it. Theoretically you could also reduce the number of mobs from 2 to 1, but I don't recommend that as it affects other behaviors as well. In other words, it would treat every fight as stressful and I don't recommend that.

By default, ShamWOW is setup to save some key abilities for stressful fights (Feral Spirit being one of them.) This allows better performance on PVP Realms and profiles which randomly cause you to agro adds or an elite, because the abilities won't be on cooldown when you really need them. That comes at a price though since you have an overall DPS loss since you benefit from Feral Spirit burst less frequently.

So hope that answers how to do what you wanted and why the defaults are set as they are. If you find that after modifying the options you feel it isn't working as it described, please be sure to attach a complete debug log file so that I can assist you. Thanks for the post, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

Hi Bobby, Could you rise the priority to cast Earth shock when Fulmination are up to 9 charges? Should have second highest priority after healing surge. I can post a log when I get home showing that my toon does cast lightening bolt, Chain lightening etc instead of fireing of this atombomb

Kayes, Sorry for the delay in responding. Not sure but somehow I overlooked it earlier. Here is the existing DPS priority for ShamWOW as taken from EJ and TotemSpot for Elementals:

FS_0 > EM > LvB > ES_LS9 > CL (if it will hop) > LB

Flame Shock of 0 stacks on target
Elemental Mastery
Lava Burst
Earth Shock if 9 stacks of Lightning Shield
Chain Lightning if fighting multiple adds and will hop at least once
Lightning Bolt
​

The only thing that appears to have changed in the recommendation since WOW 4.01 was released is they now say to cast Earth Shock between 7 and 8 stacks. I'll make the change to test for 8 in the next release. Otherwise, the current priority matches the current best practices.

There are allowances to alter the rotation at lower levels. For example if you have 0 points in Fulmination, Earth Shock is cast when off cooldown if the target has a Flame Shock debuff with greater than 5 seconds left on it, otherwise the shared shock cooldown is saved for renewing Flame Shock.

Thanks for the post. If you see different behavior from what I have described in PVE situations, please attach a complete debug log file and in your post note the general time frame you believe the issue occurred. Thanks again, Bobby53

EDIT: If there are 3 or more enemies within an 8 yard radius of your current target, it will cast Earthquake.

 

[w00tsauce]

Yea, Its got the correct rotation going.

Just stopping by to thank you for all the hard work bobby. I can do profiles, but I cant even begin to work on a CC. Yours always runs pretty damn well, which makes things a whole lot easier on me.

 

[lickalime]

>>> STARTING ShamWOW v4.2.09b by Bobby53
This profile does not contain any profiles fitting the character!

>>> STOPPING ShamWOW v4.2.09b by Bobby53
ThreadAbortException caught inside.
ThreadAbortException caught outside.


It's always something

 

[raybee]

hi bobby is there anychance you could make a decent pve thing? for combat mode, its only pulling out 3k dps in ele / enh gear in a raid, full heroic geared, kinda strange

 

[tjhasty]

I am having a couple weird issues. 1 is when in a dungeon using instance buddy, it just kind of hops around after throwing down totems. It does finally start fighting, but normally by then the mob is bout dead.
The other is when it is fighting, when the mob is about 1/4 dead, it will start running away, then will say their is an add, and go back to fighting it.

 

[bobby53]

>>> STARTING ShamWOW v4.2.09b by Bobby53
This profile does not contain any profiles fitting the character!

>>> STOPPING ShamWOW v4.2.09b by Bobby53
ThreadAbortException caught inside.
ThreadAbortException caught outside.


It's always something

lickalime,

Your right, it is always something but not always what you think. This isn't a Shaman issue. Please see the 2nd line in your post that I highlighted in the quote above. You are trying to run a profile that is:

1. Too low for the level of your character, OR
2. Too high for the level of your character, OR
3. Profile has an error incorrectly specifying the level ranges

Regardless, it is a profile issue. If you believe you have correctly selected a profile that should work with your level character you will need to post in the profile authors thread. I would be able to help you with specifics, but there was not a complete debug log file attached to your post. If you believe you have an issue with ShamWOW in the future, please visit Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE] which is the 2nd post in the ShamWOW thread for details on the info that needs to be present in your post.

Thanks and good luck,
Bobb53

 

[bobby53]

hi bobby is there anychance you could make a decent pve thing? for combat mode, its only pulling out 3k dps in ele / enh gear in a raid, full heroic geared, kinda strange

raybee, My apologies for your issue, but there is no way to tell what is wrong with your setup from the lack of details in your post. See the Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE] for ShamWOW (2nd post in this thread) and it will walk you through the information needed when posting an issue or criticism. I have no idea what raid you were running, how you were setup for the raid, what decisions the CC was making during the raid, etc. etc. etc. I'll keep an eye out for your follow up, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

I am having a couple weird issues. 1 is when in a dungeon using instance buddy, it just kind of hops around after throwing down totems. It does finally start fighting, but normally by then the mob is bout dead.
The other is when it is fighting, when the mob is about 1/4 dead, it will start running away, then will say their is an add, and go back to fighting it.

tjhasty, My apologies for your issues. I appreciate the log file attached, but it is only a partial log file and doesn't contain all the information needed to assist you. It also may not be the one you intended to attach as the roughly 6 minutes of activity it documents doesn't contain any use of InstanceBuddy that I can see. I'll keep an eye out for your follow up in the event you continue to have the issues. Thanks for the post, Bobby53

 

[tjhasty]

Here is the full log, about 17 megs or so. Can't upload it so I linked it.

http://tjhasty.zzl.org/debug.zip

 

[bobby53]

Here is the full log, about 17 megs or so. Can't upload it so I linked it.

http://tjhasty.zzl.org/debug.zip

tjhasty,

Thank you very much for the file. The files are large, but compress well. The .zip you linked compressed the 17 meg log file to less than 1.6 megs. You can attach .zip files up to 9 megs in size to a post.

The log file shows you running RAF with a Combat Style of Healing Over Combat. Go into CC Configuration on the RAF tab and change the RAF Combat Style to Combat Only or Auto. You should get better results in regards to how quickly it moves towards the tanks target.

It also shows HonorBuddy is invoking its Unstuck logic frequently when attempting to move towards the tanks target. This is the hopping around behavior you mentioned. Based on your description I am assuming it wasn't obstructed at the time. I have seen that behavior with all classes at random times and am not sure what causes it. I'll look into that further and see what I can find out, but I don't anticipate the settings change above to impact that as there seems to be something else occurring artificially restricting the Enhancement Shaman from moving in.

Thanks for your post and the complete log file, Bobby53

 

[tjhasty]

Also dont forget that when out just grinding, it will think the mob is dead when its down to roughly 1/4 health for whatever reason, and move on/target something new and then it thinks its an add. That should be in that log file to, would be somewhere after my instancebuddy part.

 

[raybee]

raybee, My apologies for your issue, but there is no way to tell what is wrong with your setup from the lack of details in your post. See the Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE] for ShamWOW (2nd post in this thread) and it will walk you through the information needed when posting an issue or criticism. I have no idea what raid you were running, how you were setup for the raid, what decisions the CC was making during the raid, etc. etc. etc. I'll keep an eye out for your follow up, Bobby53

hi bobby, not sure if this is correct but heres my settings i was using in dungeons / bastion of twilight on a ele shaman.

I was using combat only, was using this with mr auto fight, so i can control the movement, had all the correct totems down, and it just doesnt seem to cast, i cant seem to get it to work, ill have another go and upload a log,

 

[raybee]

also trying to use it in pvp, with mr auto fight, but not sure if this even works? so if i cast the first flame shock, the cc should take over right? casting lvb, em, then lb till fulmination why using lvb / fs when needed?

 

[MRright]

Is there anyway for this bot to support unleash elements, i know you dont get it till 81 but its very useful from 81-85

 

[zeldrak]

Is there anyway for this bot to support unleash elements, i know you dont get it till 81 but its very useful from 81-85

I believe bobby said he was going to code into the next release the 'Unleash Elements' spell. It was in an earlier post to this thread. Have a read back and see if it's there. I could be wrong though, but I seem to recall him stating that he will be putting that into the next release along with some other fixes, additions, and changes.

 

[bobby53]

hi bobby, not sure if this is correct but heres my settings i was using in dungeons / bastion of twilight on a ele shaman.

I was using combat only, was using this with mr auto fight, so i can control the movement, had all the correct totems down, and it just doesnt seem to cast, i cant seem to get it to work, ill have another go and upload a log,

Thanks raybee. I'd really need a complete debug log file attached. That would contain your settings, the bot settings, the version of all components used, as well as output that helps me understand how some of the in combat decisions were made. Thanks for the follow up and your help in running down your issue, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

also trying to use it in pvp, with mr auto fight, but not sure if this even works? so if i cast the first flame shock, the cc should take over right? casting lvb, em, then lb till fulmination why using lvb / fs when needed?

Yes. The only thing Mr. AutoFight does is disable HonorBuddy's movement. ShamWOW will detect when you are running Mr. AutoFight and also disable the movement it controls, leaving you in charge of moving your Shaman in whatever environment you use that setup in. Beyond that, I can't really assist without a complete debug log file attached. Thanks for providing it with your next post, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

Is there anyway for this bot to support unleash elements, i know you dont get it till 81 but its very useful from 81-85

MRright, Thanks for the post. It is very useful. Support for Unleash Elements will be present as part of the standard rotation for Enhancement and Resto in the next release. Support for Elemental will be present also, but the recommendation currently is that it generally isn't worth the GCD while standing still but to use while DPSing on the move to save from incurring a Shock cooldown. That situation rarely comes up so you won't see it cast for Elementals often at present. Thanks for the post, Bobby53