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Sell Gold without getting your main bots banned

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jungly

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Need advice on how you guys do it. Everytime i sell gold my main bots all get perma banned.

Is the trick you guys do to create a new vanilla account under a different IP, withdraw the 1million gold from your legit guild and place it in your fake gold seller guild (so it looks like you stole it from yourself to GM's) - then invite the chinese buyer to the fake-guild, he'll withdraw the 1mill gold. And hope they only ban your vanilla-account (created under different IP/PROXY) and not your main-bots?

Need advice
 
I usually set up a vanilla account to trade the gold with. Trouble with withdrawing from the guild bank is that you can only withdraw 100k per day so what I've done in the past is run various new toons to meeting places and have 100k on each. I got bored with that last month and passed the leadership over to my vanilla toon to withdraw all I wanted to sell, then passed it back before he /gquit. No bans on farmers so far but obviously the seller vanilla account gets banned.
 
In my experience, selling 1 mil gold will always get you looked into more, I used to split it up and sell 500k a week or 500k per vanilla, I used same IP last time I sold 800k and they now monitor my home IP. I would use different IPS on your bots than when you sell gold and not sell 1mil on just one vanilla.

You could always just "give" the guild to the gold seller too, seems anythings safer than f2f trading. Not all of them will do guild withdraw
 
lostsk8r said:
In my experience, selling 1 mil gold will always get you looked into more, I used to split it up and sell 500k a week or 500k per vanilla, I used same IP last time I sold 800k and they now monitor my home IP. I would use different IPS on your bots than when you sell gold and not sell 1mil on just one vanilla.

You could always just "give" the guild to the gold seller too, seems anythings safer than f2f trading. Not all of them will do guild withdraw
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Hmm... that seems like a smart idea. Cause I'm dealing with 1mil gold swappings at end of the month on average. My biggest concern is losing my BOTTERS who all play under the same IP. But my Vanilla Gold Seller will trade under a PROXY different IP. So maybe i could create a cheap guild invite the gold seller and do the entire transaction, what i dont like is having that guild open, i prefer it closed but meh whatever the vanilla account will get the boot anyhow.
 
MrB said:
I usually set up a vanilla account to trade the gold with. Trouble with withdrawing from the guild bank is that you can only withdraw 100k per day so what I've done in the past is run various new toons to meeting places and have 100k on each. I got bored with that last month and passed the leadership over to my vanilla toon to withdraw all I wanted to sell, then passed it back before he /gquit. No bans on farmers so far but obviously the seller vanilla account gets banned.
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Can't i just make a STATUS GUILD for them to become officers and grant them persmisssion to withdraw infinite, or do they have to be guild masters? Which in that case i'll just grant the guild to the gold seller. Technically then GameMasters will have no reason to ban your vanilla, but thats a long shot.
 
jungly said:
Can't i just make a STATUS GUILD for them to become officers and grant them persmisssion to withdraw infinite, or do they have to be guild masters? Which in that case i'll just grant the guild to the gold seller. Technically then GameMasters will have no reason to ban your vanilla, but thats a long shot.
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Only the GM can withdraw more than 100k in a single day, you can't set it to an unlimited ammount (unless it changed in the new patch). Personally I don't mind losing a vanilla account, they're cheap enough and I usually do it at the weekend so I don't generally get banned until Monday morning :D

With regards to giving the guild to the buyer, depending on who you are selling too, that may or may not work. Because I'm lazy, I take the easy option and sell to the Chinese but I seem to have to deal with 80k to one person and then 70k to a different one, etc, I've never handed a large amount of gold over in a single transaction. Perhaps it's the people I've sold too, lol I may be making harder work of it than it needs to be :D
 
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jungly said:
Hmm... that seems like a smart idea. Cause I'm dealing with 1mil gold swappings at end of the month on average. My biggest concern is losing my BOTTERS who all play under the same IP. But my Vanilla Gold Seller will trade under a PROXY different IP. So maybe i could create a cheap guild invite the gold seller and do the entire transaction, what i dont like is having that guild open, i prefer it closed but meh whatever the vanilla account will get the boot anyhow.
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Ya, my vanilla's have always gotten the boot. The most I've sold on one vanilla without losing a farming bot has been 500k, I've done 1mil, 950k, 700k and all ended in atleast one bot gone. I know someone else around here uses two vanillas, I might do that if I can ever get my bots to be on more than 10 hours without a ban. Something like farming GB invites vanilla 1, vanilla 1 puts into newly made GB owned by vanilla 2, who will then invite gold buyer when you sell.. yada yada. So you sell once a month? I was doing it once a week, guess I made a lot more gold :P

Lately I cant get my bots on more than like 10 hours though, I got about 15 accounts banned and been slowly getting back up, was up to 7 last night but got 5 banned, and then 4 unbanned, sucks. I used to average 200k a week per toon, now it's 100k, which still isnt bad, thats what I started out making when I began botting anyway.
 
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lostsk8r said:
Ya, my vanilla's have always gotten the boot. The most I've sold on one vanilla without losing a farming bot has been 500k, I've done 1mil, 950k, 700k and all ended in atleast one bot gone. I know someone else around here uses two vanillas, I might do that if I can ever get my bots to be on more than 10 hours without a ban. Something like farming GB invites vanilla 1, vanilla 1 puts into newly made GB owned by vanilla 2, who will then invite gold buyer when you sell.. yada yada. So you sell once a month? I was doing it once a week, guess I made a lot more gold :P

Lately I cant get my bots on more than like 10 hours though, I got about 15 accounts banned and been slowly getting back up, was up to 7 last night but got 5 banned, and then 4 unbanned, sucks. I used to average 200k a week per toon, now it's 100k, which still isnt bad, thats what I started out making when I began botting anyway.
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Are you using seperate IP's for your vanillas to avoid the bans? I too just got back to botting from losing 6 accounts last year, was so pissed off left wow cause last year i had two vanilla accounts to do the transaction and yet they still found my botters somehow. Some reason they never flag my botters for botting.

This time around i can't see how they will be able to flag my botters if :
1. Week 1-4: Bots bot on one specific IP. They have a LEGIT guild with bunch of lvl'ing nubs with roster of 100ppl.
2. Week 3: Vanilla account 1 (seperate IP) , will withdraw 500k from my botters-guild or whatever, create a fake guild maybe even invite some newbies from trade chat and wait a week, so it looks legit. They have no reason to ban me at this point.
3. Week 4: Vanilla account 2 (seperate IP), will withdraw 500k from Vanilla Account1 guild, then create a new guild2 and invite the chinese farmers. SELL. /gquit. Summon a GM and swear at them in hopes of getting banned ASAP for swearing - OR just sit tight and wait for ban few days from now for selling gold.
 
Well ya, I use separate IP's and VM's now, but I'm not selling nearly as much gold as I used to because seems if you bot 20hrs/day you're going to get banned, at least in my experience. I mean cmon they can trace it, it has to come from somewhere right? Just depends on if they feel like looking where the gold that was taken from this guild bank came from, then they see it was from auctions, and where did the auctions come from, well this account deposited it into there.. well that one has high play time ok.. I mean they know whats going on. I had a guild bank LOCKED for being a "farming guild," after they banned the account and deleted the guildmaster.

I also had a guild messed with before.. The GM got banned, I got it compromised a day later and when I got on to deposit things into the guild bank with my AH toon (on same account as the GM/farmer), some reason the character wasnt able to deposit anything.. I checked on the GM toon and the bank tab permissions were changed to allow no deposits.. yeah I didnt do that.

Right now I'm just tryin to find a safe amount of hours per day to avoid getting banned every week, lol. I used to think it was because my accounts were previously banned so they watched them but I transferred two 81's onto two new accounts last weekend and had them going 20hrs/day to get to 85 and.. it took from sunday to weds to get them banned, then given a "second chance" I changed VMs and IP's on those for future compromise.

It's definately only applying to gathering ore too, I have a paladin questing 24 hours a day and a DK doing archeo 24 hours a day and they werent even touched..

Once I get on my feet, yeah I'll probably use two VMs and two GB's, they seem to be checkin shit out more thoroughly now. I've been selling but I have these five vanillas I started up a month ago, they all have like level 50 paladins on there, I stopped leveling them because I got two suspensions on 4/5 of them, and then they all got banned, then compromised and for some reason when you're compromised, if its been a couple days, they automatically give you a free month lol, so these vanillas that I havent even put playing time on, were extended for another month from the day I got them unlocked. So they were invited to all my guild banks a month ago, so I just been using those to sell, and I only had one banned.. used it two weeks in a row somehow. I still have a 2nd one thats sold gold and not been banned, not sure how. Probably cause 200k isnt much compared to selling atleast 500k a week like I used to.
 
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wierd, i had my 4 botters on one IP all LINKED by same creditcard and RAFFING. NONE OF THEM GOT TOUCHED for 6months straight botting 20hours+ a day sometimes 24/7 (but only gathering ore/herb, if you kill MOBS it is a known fact that you will get banned quicker because they keep track of how many kills you do, but they dont keep track of how many herbs you farm). Soon as i sold to a chinese gold farmer, BANG FLAGGED all accounts includings vanillas.

Well this'll be last attempt at WOW profitting - otherwise i'll check out some other MMORPG's that botting is possible. Reason its at 0.7/k$ is cause WOW is dieing from mainstream popularity. Where's the next WOW?
 
How do you know its RAF and CC, and not the IP? Was it same MAC? And I've been getting quoted higher than .7.. actually .9.
 
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