[PAID] Salvation - Richie's Discipline Priest PvP Combat Routine [Pro Edition]

[RichieCR]

An ETA on this?

Maybe a week if I'll have enough time to work on it.

It's basically done, just needs tons of testing and it's hard to do alone. And since I'm not releasing stuff that is not properly tested it can take some time.

Because I'm spending my time to create CRs my old arena partners left me, so I have to test with random dudes.

It'll have some quite fun stuff, like it'll use all the useful pet spells(for example the imp will dispel CCs from your healer automatically, felhunter will silence the healer when your target is on low hp), use rejuvenation if you have symbiosis, etc

 

[RichieCR]

Thank you very much!!!!! That would be great. If you are target of a Cyclone, you could check the same but not cast SW D but spectral guise.

It would only work in arena, because scanning ppl for casts would slow down the CR in BGs.

 

[dailoc]

Hi Richies,
your CR pro version work great for me. However got 2 things i would like to ask you.
How do i turn off my char use pain of suppression on party pet? Cause my partner was UH DK and when his pet get low HP, my char keep using and waste cd pain of suppression on that pet?
Another thing is how do i turn off my char dps another when my partner on full hp? cause i feel abit wasted mana pool.
Thanks you

 

[xLegendx]

Maybe a week if I'll have enough time to work on it.

It's basically done, just needs tons of testing and it's hard to do alone. And since I'm not releasing stuff that is not properly tested it can take some time.

Because I'm spending my time to create CRs my old arena partners left me, so I have to test with random dudes.

It'll have some quite fun stuff, like it'll use all the useful pet spells(for example the imp will dispel CCs from your healer automatically, felhunter will silence the healer when your target is on low hp), use rejuvenation if you have symbiosis, etc

Awesome man, I cannot wait to try it

But, referring to this CC, does it stop casting to SWD polys and repents... ?


I just wish HB was as fast as PQR... as it can read combat logs and cast SWD on scatter and even 0.1 milliseconds before a trap hits you. It is possible to make a "Toolkit" and run this in the background though

 

[MrMister]

Thank you very much!!!!! That would be great. If you are target of a Cyclone, you could check the same but not cast SW D but spectral guise.

It would only work in arena, because scanning ppl for casts would slow down the CR in BGs.

Yeah of Course - Arena is more than enough.

Next Thing - i never saw the bot purge enemies. Why? =)

Best regards

 

[RichieCR]

Hi Richies,
your CR pro version work great for me. However got 2 things i would like to ask you.
How do i turn off my char use pain of suppression on party pet? Cause my partner was UH DK and when his pet get low HP, my char keep using and waste cd pain of suppression on that pet?
Another thing is how do i turn off my char dps another when my partner on full hp? cause i feel abit wasted mana pool.
Thanks you

Yeah of Course - Arena is more than enough.

Next Thing - i never saw the bot purge enemies. Why? =)

Best regards

**NEW VERSION**

-New feature: Try to get out of Poly and Repentance with a well timed SWD
-Healing pets can be turned off
-Doing damage to the enemy team can be turned completely off by setting the "Atonement healing if lowest party member is above hp%" option to 100%

You won't see it dispelling the enemy team, because it's your choice to dispel something or not. Since you can't target a specific buff it could end up spamming dispel to remove all those filler buffs instead of more important stuff. It's instantly removing Ice Block and Bubble though.

Please check the new stuff, because I didn't have the chance to do very extensive testing on it. It was working for me, but shit happens... If it DO happen, then send me your logs.

 

[xLegendx]

**NEW VERSION**

-New feature: Try to get out of Poly and Repentance with a well timed SWD
-Healing pets can be turned off
-Doing damage to the enemy team can be turned completely off by setting the "Atonement healing if lowest party member is above hp%" option to 100%

You won't see it dispelling the enemy team, because it's your choice to dispel something or not. Since you can't target a specific buff it could end up spamming dispel to remove all those filler buffs instead of more important stuff. It's instantly removing Ice Block and Bubble though.

Please check the new stuff, because I didn't have the chance to do very extensive testing on it. It was working for me, but shit happens... If it DO happen, then send me your logs.

What about dispel magic on these spells,

1044, -- Hand of Freedom

6940, -- Hand of Sacrifice

69369, -- Predatory Swiftness

12472, -- Icy Veins

1022, -- Hand of Protection

11426, -- Ice Barrier

20925, -- Sacred Shield

114250, -- Selfless Healer

17 -- Power Word: Shield

110909 --Alter time


In RBGs this would be a little bit of an issue on mana but, in Arena I think every priest does this. I would add a check to see if the sheilds absorb more 50k-60k + dispel it, if its lower don't bother.
and of course only dispell the really really important ones at a certain amount of HP

I understand the "filler" buffs but, using it a certain amount of HP can prevent this from becoming a problem but even top priests deal with the "filler" buffs ... of course, they make sure their team mates at ok before they spam dispel it.

 

[Mario27]

Dude. It's a Discipline CR...

i know but i have the shadow also so i just said it here

 

[RichieCR]

i know but i have the shadow also so i just said it here

Well, noone else reported issues with the SP CR, so it may be a problem on your side. I suggest you to do a clean install.

 

[magmathedude]

What about dispel magic on these spells,

1044, -- Hand of Freedom

6940, -- Hand of Sacrifice

69369, -- Predatory Swiftness

12472, -- Icy Veins

1022, -- Hand of Protection

11426, -- Ice Barrier

20925, -- Sacred Shield

114250, -- Selfless Healer

17 -- Power Word: Shield

110909 --Alter time


In RBGs this would be a little bit of an issue on mana but, in Arena I think every priest does this. I would add a check to see if the sheilds absorb more 50k-60k + dispel it, if its lower don't bother.
and of course only dispell the really really important ones at a certain amount of HP

This would be indeed amazing! What do you say, Richie?

 

[xLegendx]

It's hilarious seeing a feral druid hard cast cyclone because pred swiftness got dispelled so fast xD

 

[survivalhunter]

What about dispel magic on these spells,

1044, -- Hand of Freedom

6940, -- Hand of Sacrifice

69369, -- Predatory Swiftness

12472, -- Icy Veins

1022, -- Hand of Protection

11426, -- Ice Barrier

20925, -- Sacred Shield

114250, -- Selfless Healer

17 -- Power Word: Shield

110909 --Alter time


In RBGs this would be a little bit of an issue on mana but, in Arena I think every priest does this. I would add a check to see if the sheilds absorb more 50k-60k + dispel it, if its lower don't bother.
and of course only dispell the really really important ones at a certain amount of HP

Please please do it Richie!

 

[xLegendx]

Please please do it Richie!

Such a huge factor for high rated priests.... surprised it isn't added.
I understand the "filler" buffs but, using it a certain amount of HP can prevent this from becoming a problem but even top priests deal with the "filler" buffs ... of course, they make sure their team mates are ok before they spam dispel it.
Oh, also Fear Ward can be added to that list.


On a side note, it seems like all the top priests are going holy.
Fortunately, the idea is the same.. Use more insta casts than hard casts. If an insta cast spell is off CD , they use it ... even if they're at like 40% HP
You can get away with more insta cast spells because of holy word serenity

Holy is a little more mana consuming but, this is why they get the talent Mind Bender all the time.

I watch so much holy play lol If you need help, let me know.


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Hello, as far as I know Disc is the "go-to" spec for PvP, so I won't make holy PvP CR since it doesn't really make sense to create a CR for the weaker PvP healing spec.

I'll reconsider it when(if) they'll buff holy priests for PvP.

It's not that weak as you think

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Holy seems like the "go-to" spec for PvP now lol

I do not even see a single disc priest on the ladder above 2400:
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HOPEFULLY!!! This convinces you to make a Holy priest version. I watch streams all the time on priests and they're always holy now

 

[magmathedude]

xLegendx, I do agree with you about the dispell option, however Holy Priests are not so strong, and I can show you with facts:

I'll take a random battlegroup: Rampage/Saccage

3v3 teams with a Holy Priest: 3v3 Arena - Community - World of Warcraft
3v3 teams with a Discipline Priest: 3v3 Arena - Community - World of Warcraft

You can clearly figure out from these which is best for 3s, and you can apply the same algorithm for 2s.

 

[xLegendx]

xLegendx, I do agree with you about the dispell option, however Holy Priests are not so strong, and I can show you with facts:

I'll take a random battlegroup: Rampage/Saccage

3v3 teams with a Holy Priest: 3v3 Arena - Community - World of Warcraft
3v3 teams with a Discipline Priest: 3v3 Arena - Community - World of Warcraft

You can clearly figure out from these which is best for 3s, and you can apply the same algorithm for 2s.

I can't speak for the EU ladder.
I know the US, BG9 ladder which is where <hey im mvp> is located. Some of those players may be innactive/place holders (from last patch)

The ones I have linked are active 100%, not place holders, etc. I watch them stream... etc and they're in a very competitive BG group.

If you look at the US ladders its completely different.
There is more Holy Priests at higher MMR.


I watch these players stream. I can vouch and show proof of it. They ALL play holy actively now and convinced it is better or just as equal.


Rank 1 Priest across all BG groups... EU and US (watch him stream)
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EU and US are COMPLETELY different. I'm not sure which has more competitive PvP? But, US is going Holy and EU is sticking Disc it seems.


Rank 1 Priest in 2s US: (watch him stream)
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I am convinced Holy is NOT WEAK, is it better than Disc? US players say so or they say its just as good but, prefer Holy because of extra CC and more offensive game play. Saying it's weak is a huge understatement.

 

[tuanha]

On my way to 2k (DK Disc 2v2) I can not kill a single Holy Priest. I feel Disc priest easier to kill instead.

 

[xLegendx]

On my way to 2k (DK Disc 2v2) I can not kill a single Holy Priest. I feel Disc priest easier to kill instead.

I think it's because of the more insta cast stuff? Some of it can heal for 100k+

It's not weak like how Richie said.

 

[zaruqi27]

Holy Spec is weak.

Look at these stats: Best Priest spec (PvP) (3v3)

These American wastes play Holy for fun with those watching their stream.

EDIT: EU is more competitive - Best realms - World of Warcraft
So, look for Misery Battleground if you want to see the best players.

 

[RichieCR]

I already started implementing this dispel list.

It will be just a simple list with ID's. No special logic for each spell as it could have an impact on performance if I start adding special conditions for each buff.

I plan to make it work with two additional options:
-one for telling the CR that it can use dispel when the lowest party member is above the set health percent. For example if you set it to 40% then it will only dispel when the lowest party member is above 40%. You can set it to 100% if you want the whole feature turned off.
-another one for telling the CR how much CD you want on the dispels. You can use it to not let the CR to spam dispel and neglect it's other duties. If you set it to 5 then it will only cast a dispel in every 5 seconds. You can set it to 0 if you want to let the CR spam dispel(as long as the above conditions are true)

This way you can keep the dispelling in control

 

[RichieCR]

Hello, as far as I know Disc is the "go-to" spec for PvP, so I won't make holy PvP CR since it doesn't really make sense to create a CR for the weaker PvP healing spec.

I'll reconsider it when(if) they'll buff holy priests for PvP.

I didn't say, that holy is WEAK, I said that AS FAR AS I KNOW it's WEAKER.

Anyways, it's not just a few hours work to create a CR even if I already have most of the stuff coded in the disc CR. I spend A LOT of time on testing to make sure that my CRs are high quality products.

At this moment I'm working on an Affliction Warlock PvP routine and I'll only start working on a holy CR next if there's enough ppl who wants to use it. ATM, my plans are to either create a CR for another lock spec(dunno which one yet) or start working on the Shaman(elemental or resto)