[Request] Arena Bot
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How do you get your bot to heal you? when I use my Shaman as healer in Arena it constally puts on earthshield, which means it oom in like 20sec.
I use RAF and ShamWow .... and configueret it to healing.
What do I do wrong? do I need some plugins ?
How do you get your bot to heal you? when I use my Shaman as healer in Arena it constally puts on earthshield, which means it oom in like 20sec.
I use RAF and ShamWow .... and configueret it to healing.
What do I do wrong? do I need some plugins ?
Use [Plugin] Multibox Companion
1. Enter arena on your main and mount up.
2. Enter arena on your bot and start it.
This is how i get around the earth shield spam. would love to know how to remove the earth shield spam to
The mounting up on your main makes the bot mount up so it does not cast earth shield .
this only happens in the start of a arena match .
Try it out and see if it works.
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geoffrules
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A well written AI should be better then most humans in pvp. It would be faster and could calculate things better.
Case in point, computers can beat the world champions at chess - and chess is a little more complex than wow pvp
And how long would it take to write a perfect (yes, because you invoked that when you spoke about humans versus computers on chess) bot and a perfect custom class? With all the respect your statement is logic but not realistic. Also, I do not agree that chess is more complex than WoW PVP when it comes to programming a perfect weapon (because that's what were talking about).
There's plenty of 'just for points' teams that don't really care about winning. some just stand around and dance. if you have alts that you want to get 10 games in or dont care about rating then something like this would be pretty easy to make 
. Just have the bot accept queue, zone in. start dancing, throwing out some random emotes, jump around, or w/e. 
could even have bots go naked to make it go faster :/
. Just have the bot accept queue, zone in. start dancing, throwing out some random emotes, jump around, or w/e. could even have bots go naked to make it go faster :/
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There's plenty of 'just for points' teams that don't really care about winning. some just stand around and dance. if you have alts that you want to get 10 games in or dont care about rating then something like this would be pretty easy to make
It doesn't work like that anymore. You have to win to get points.
really?
Can a computer calculate if an opponent will counterspell something?
Will a computer be able to fake cast? Will it foresee a switch onto them?
Can it line of sight effectively? Will it know when to go offensive or defensive?
potentially, yes.
That's ridiculous. So a computer can "potentially" calculate the outcome of the match right as it starts?
Humans are unpredictable and make mistakes. A bot will have no way of knowing a mistake somebody is about to make.
How would it know if a player is about to blanket counterspell or if they're saving it for an interrupt? How would it be able to know if their opponent are going to switch targets?
These things are all processed in the human mind and are not based off of statistics and numbers
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You're talking about maybe the top 5% of the arena players? Most arena players are now just the average TB Bridge Exploiting nub...they're not gonna be thinking at this high of level...they'll be spamming their castsequences.
IMO, as long as a bot heals and dispels properly, you'd do well enough to go 50/50, enough to get your weapons and a few pieces while you're waiting for your 5v5 team to come online. I don't think anyone here is asking to become a gladiator with the bot...this would attract way too much attention anyway even if it was possible.
It's more like players above 2k rating. You don't need to be a gladiator to know how to switch or blanket counterspell,
Yes I realize this but the other person was talking about computers beating chess champions.
My point is, you can't have 2 bots beat the top arena teams.
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YouTube - Notabot Multibox 5v5 Arena
you still have to play but you can win and you will get 4 other accounts up also
you still have to play but you can win and you will get 4 other accounts up also
but a human will know if someone is about to make a mistake? how would a human know if a player is going to blanket counterspell, or when theyre going to switch targets?
Exactly, we won't know if somebody is going to make a mistake. Humans are known for adaptability, we see a problem, we adapt.
Also, a human will be able to predict things such as blanket CS or switching through arena experience.
Bots wont be able to do that based on facts and numbers
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... he is multiboxing while a friend heals him, he's not botting at all, what these people want to do is be able to get 2 accounts kinda geared, then /afk and they'll get conquest, your post is a person who is controlling 4 characters at once with a shaman healing friend, has nothing to do with actual botting.
@OP: Idea, good. Realistic, no. Could you win 3-5 the first week from a day of trying? Yes. Could you win after 3 weeks of winning (if you do good) no. When you get to 1300+ raiting, people actually have a brain most of the time, and they are on vent and talking when to cyclone the current target if at low health and about to recieve a heal, to switch to the other to burn him down so there in a state of openess (just an example of what some people do and yes, people actually do this). As HB currently stands, unless someone spends a year on working on this i highly doubt there is enough logic to be able to run an arena team above a 1k raiting. I will be making a plugin soon to even test how well it goes (shamwow enhance since it's boom damage with enesemble paladin because its... greater then god) and i'll report back my status in a week.
First of all, sorry for my bad english
Sure, its possible to write a good Arena Bot... but it would never be worth the time... you've got to think about serveral things:
1.) First you need to discover what kind of opponent you're fighting on (Healer? DPS? - means... parsing the whole combat log)
2.) The Bot needs to classify the gear they are wearing (This is one of the hardest parts.... you need to calculate your damage before... see how much damage you're doing on the player; classify if he's wearing full gladi or just using pve equip)
3.) He needs to have several tactics against several classes, serveral specs and several arenas... (tons of code)
4.) Know your enemy before he knows you..
5.) Figure out what kind of tactic they are using against you? Do they what for your cs? Do they just gunna rush down your healer? Do they just cs your healer?
6.) Handling against their tactic
7.) Skill... the bot needs to have skill; You need the perfect CC for handly against ALL possible tactics... (also tons of code)
8.) Write this code for ALL!!! possible combinations of classes (e.g. botting pala/druid; botting rouge/druid and so on...)
9.) Save all gathered informations to handle 1-4 faster than a human player
10.) Share these informations with the other running bots in realtime...
* Part 1-3 the human will decide within half a second... a bot needs to go in fight to figure this out;
* Part 4-6 You'll need just a few seconds in combat
* Part 7 Not all human players have skill... but every human player can become skilled while fighting battlegrounds and playing arena (could take some time ;O)
* Part 9 These part is the only one, which should be better than a human; But for this... you can write yourself an addon ;O
Im currently trying to write a Plugin to handle these points ONLY for Battlegrounds... and only for paladin... becouse every class; every battleground... these would take maybe some months or years ;D
Yes, I know what I'm talking about becouse I was already gladiator at the time of wotlk
Sure, its possible to write a good Arena Bot... but it would never be worth the time... you've got to think about serveral things:
1.) First you need to discover what kind of opponent you're fighting on (Healer? DPS? - means... parsing the whole combat log)
2.) The Bot needs to classify the gear they are wearing (This is one of the hardest parts.... you need to calculate your damage before... see how much damage you're doing on the player; classify if he's wearing full gladi or just using pve equip)
3.) He needs to have several tactics against several classes, serveral specs and several arenas... (tons of code)
4.) Know your enemy before he knows you..
5.) Figure out what kind of tactic they are using against you? Do they what for your cs? Do they just gunna rush down your healer? Do they just cs your healer?
6.) Handling against their tactic
7.) Skill... the bot needs to have skill; You need the perfect CC for handly against ALL possible tactics... (also tons of code)
8.) Write this code for ALL!!! possible combinations of classes (e.g. botting pala/druid; botting rouge/druid and so on...)
9.) Save all gathered informations to handle 1-4 faster than a human player
10.) Share these informations with the other running bots in realtime...
* Part 1-3 the human will decide within half a second... a bot needs to go in fight to figure this out;
* Part 4-6 You'll need just a few seconds in combat
* Part 7 Not all human players have skill... but every human player can become skilled while fighting battlegrounds and playing arena (could take some time ;O)
* Part 9 These part is the only one, which should be better than a human; But for this... you can write yourself an addon ;O
Im currently trying to write a Plugin to handle these points ONLY for Battlegrounds... and only for paladin... becouse every class; every battleground... these would take maybe some months or years ;D
Yes, I know what I'm talking about becouse I was already gladiator at the time of wotlk