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[Released] YBMoP-BT-Rogue

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DrSalvation said:
When I said clipping I meant there's still about 3 seconds left on the Envenom buff which is a DPS LOSS. You're supposed to clip it around .2 seconds.
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Still a huge burst dps loss and around 5k substained dps loss (T15N)
 
alxaw said:
Still a huge burst dps loss and around 5k substained dps loss (T15N)
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Ok I was wrong. I have been simming for around 1 hour now, and I finally found something that makes the rotation a lot better. It's sort of pooling energy but who knows ;)

Re-did my thinking a bit after reading a lot of assassination rogue theory. Now it will still overclip envenom when we have bloodlust (no pooling during this time) and stop overclipping all the time during non-bloodlust. This should cause an dps increase both ways
 
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Just a quick question, is there any reason to use this instead of pure? :P
 
Turkar said:
Just a quick question, is there any reason to use this instead of pure? :P
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PR-Rogue and YBMoP-Rogue are both made by Alxaw.
PR-Rogue is basicly 1.0 of YBMoP-Rogue, wich is now sorta at 2.x. So its basicly just better.
 
I tested on the dummy today.
Having Rupture on dummy with 17 sec ++,
and having 5 Combo Points with 2 Anticipation.
my rogue will Envenom.

2 Combo Point left, Multilate once, +2 CP, Mutilate again another 2 Combo point
Total 6 Combo points and with Envenom buff left with 4-5 secs (T15 2 Set Bonus)
my rogue will Envenom again, clipping the envenom buff.

hmm.. maybe it should check for anticipation buff and envenom buff, if envenom buff is > 5 sec and anticipation is < 5cp, should built up more anticipation. [ something like this? not too sure whether is it hard to make a check]
same like bloodlust, sometime i saw 10 CPs, my rogue will Envenom, left 5CPs. With Envenom buff more than 2 sec, my rogue will Envenom again clipping the envenom buff. It will be better if he built anticipation again.

Sorry, I am not too sure how to explain it more clearly. I believed a video clip will be better for understanding what is going on. Just wanna make this CR close to perfect. if you need a video, i can frap and send to you :)
 
During bloodlust you're suppose to clip the envenom. It doesn't matter if you build up or whatever.

But during non-bloodlust, you'll have to wait until capping the envenom buff when it's under 3 seconds. Let's say 1 or 2 seconds
 
If Anticipation reaches 5, it should Envenom(or rupture) no matter what, clipping or not, since all CPs over 5 stacks of Anticipation is wasted!
 
Rangbang said:
If Anticipation reaches 5, it should Envenom(or rupture) no matter what, clipping or not, since all CPs over 5 stacks of Anticipation is wasted!
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Anticipation will never reach 5 during non-bloodlust, maybe in 5.4 who knows.

I removed the bloodlust check, I think that was causing it. Can every assassination rogue test this change for me? Thanks in advance
 
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I'm obviously completely retarded as I can't find a place to download this or and SVN?
 
Envenom is abit low. when vendetta and SB is up for T15. Have to keep spaming Envenom. with SB for T15 4 peice bonus it can easily hit 10 combo points
 
Refrakt said:
Envenom is abit low. when vendetta and SB is up for T15. Have to keep spaming Envenom. with SB for T15 4 peice bonus it can easily hit 10 combo points
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Update and try again
 
Item - Rogue T15 4P Bonus
Shadow Blades also reduces the cost of all your abilities by 40%.

will try tomorrow at lfr. finished tonight raid. and with ilvl 530, i am losing dps to ilvl 525 rogue. :(

when compare at skada, his envenom % is up higher than me.

During opening burst, with rupture up and slice and dice running. With shadow blade and vendetta, rogue have to keep envenom at 5 cp to avoid capping energy. With bloodlust, vendetta and shadow blade it will be spamming envenom.

Maybe cr should cater to 4 piece t15.
 
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Refrakt said:
Item - Rogue T15 4P Bonus
Shadow Blades also reduces the cost of all your abilities by 40%.

will try tomorrow at lfr. finished tonight raid. and with ilvl 530, i am losing dps to ilvl 525 rogue. :(

when compare at skada, his envenom % is up higher than me.

During opening burst, with rupture up and slice and dice running. With shadow blade and vendetta, rogue have to keep envenom at 5 cp to avoid capping energy. With bloodlust, vendetta and shadow blade it will be spamming envenom.

Maybe cr should cater to 4 piece t15.
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Could you pm me with your skype? I don't have a T15 4 set piece rogue to test it for me.
 
Updates ::

Added Tier 15 4 Set bonus detection on Assassination rogue during envenom clips.
 
Does the CR support Deadly Throw as an interrupter? Like, If Kick is on cooldown, use Deadly Throw. I was on Sul the Sandcrawler the other day on interrupt duty, kick is working realy good, but I need it to do something while kick is on cooldown! Never tried to spec Deadly Throw and test it out though.

Deadly Throw is most of the times a huge dps loss to use, so perhaps just have it as interrupt when kick is on cd, and never use it for anything else?!
 
Rangbang said:
Does the CR support Deadly Throw as an interrupter? Like, If Kick is on cooldown, use Deadly Throw. I was on Sul the Sandcrawler the other day on interrupt duty, kick is working realy good, but I need it to do something while kick is on cooldown! Never tried to spec Deadly Throw and test it out though.

Deadly Throw is most of the times a huge dps loss to use, so perhaps just have it as interrupt when kick is on cd, and never use it for anything else?!
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That's easy to add, but remember I won't add it as a setting. But I will add it as a detection if you have the talent enabled and kick is on cooldown use Deadly Throw.
 
alxaw said:
That's easy to add, but remember I won't add it as a setting. But I will add it as a detection if you have the talent enabled and kick is on cooldown use Deadly Throw.
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Perfect! :)

No need anyway to have a specific setting for it, if its intergrated in the interrupts, it will be able to be turned on/off on the "interrupt"-setting anyway I guess!
 
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