[Rant] Things that peeve me about this bot.

[no1knowsy]

Then why, if it's being worked on daily basis, there is incomplete stuff from a year ago?

CnG was talking about His CC, and many other projects. Not all the projects.
PvP bot, BG Bot, IB haven't been updated in a long time, yes.

 

[CodenameG]

Then why, if it's being worked on daily basis, there is incomplete stuff from a year ago?

if we release incomplete things you guys complain, alot of the main bot bases are being re-written, Instancebuddy for one, i know raphus wants to make sure that its perfect before releasing it, so we dont end up with the same problems.

 

[Haaskis]

if we release incomplete things you guys complain, alot of the main bot bases are being re-written, Instancebuddy for one, i know raphus wants to make sure that its perfect before releasing it, so we dont end up with the same problems.

It's good if someone is working on them and we eventually get something 'complete', but I just wonder how the devs plan their time working on the bot. It feels like "this thing would be good)" and then next day "hell, I could write up this other thing" - never finishing the first one. This is really a problem when the additions are closed source and we can't fix it up.

Btw, we've joined on the same date :3

 

[Speachless]

2 cents.
The community (3-party devs) are really what make this bot stand out.
The basic setup provided by HB will work, mainly for leveling, or for farming mats.
PvP has lacked as of late with updates/fixes/improvements.

But seriously, all of people on this forum, that actually contribute, are what makes this bot the best.
Without our community this would just be another bot sitting on the market, with not nearly as many users.

The fact that we have so many contributing members is because of the Amazing open-api development, with a sh!t ton of built in checks, methods, and the like.

I will not be posting here again, as this thread is just restating all the problems already known over and over.
-Panda, Out.

Great words

And guys; you pay 25 euro's for a LIFETIME lets say you bought it at 16 years old and youwill get to the ago of 80..
thats 64 years
64*365=23360 days
So lets see.. 25/23360=0,0010702054794521
So hey there cheapass people, you actually pay 0,1 cent a day. WELL FUCK AINT THAT SOME EXPENSIVE SHIT?!

You can whine about I ain't gonna use or ain't gonna live that long but that's a fact here.

Love <3

 

[CodenameG]

It's good if someone is working on them and we eventually get something 'complete', but I just wonder how the devs plan their time working on the bot. It feels like "this thing would be good)" and then next day "hell, I could write up this other thing" - never finishing the first one. This is really a problem when the additions are closed source and we can't fix it up.

Btw, we've joined on the same date :3

thats because there was a point where the community was getting restless. we had Grinding, PvP and that was it, then some of the community, the more talented ones, started to make things, like Archeology, then once Archeology got popular the developer pulled it from the fourms, and it cased major problems, so raphus decided to take it apon himself to write the Archeology buddy you use today. instancebuddy and BG Bot beta where both, "hey wouldn't this be cool idea's" but as we know now, theres a lot more logic needed to do instances then the original Instancebuddy is capable of, i believe (if i remember correctly) raphus wanted to re-write it so it would be capable of not only random instances but be good enough to do raiding with, along with being able to tank. the logic sounds simple, but to code all that requires a lot of time and a lot of skill.

now, we have the new expansion around the corner, so there will be more things that we will be able to code for, and a lot of code that's going to need to be re-done.

All the CC's are going to have to be Re-Written
Archeology buddy is going to need to be updated for use in pandaria.
Pvp bot and BG Bot beta are going to have to be worked on for use in the new battle grounds as well as whatever else they are changing for pvp
instance buddy is going to have to be updated to do the new instances, and maybe even the mini-instances that blizzard is promoting

all the things you guys are complaining about today, are going to have to be ether updated, or re-written to work with the new expansion so regardless you will see updates and changes made to the bot.

not only that but im excited about the Pet Battle System, and i wanna try writing that functionality for you all, since it looks really fun.

 

[Mortar2142]

Great words

And guys; you pay 25 euro's for a LIFETIME lets say you bought it at 16 years old and youwill get to the ago of 80..
thats 64 years
64*365=23360 days
So lets see.. 25/23360=0,0010702054794521
So hey there cheapass people, you actually pay 0,1 cent a day. WELL FUCK AINT THAT SOME EXPENSIVE SHIT?!

You can whine about I ain't gonna use or ain't gonna live that long but that's a fact here.

Love <3

You just can't be serious.

You know, last year I bought a car, I paid $20.000,00

I am 19, lets say I will live until I am 80

That will be 61 years, each year have 365 days...

61*365 = 22265 days

So, I paid, in fact, $0,89 cents a day for my car...


The problem is, my car will last as long as it is working, the same thing happens to WoW or the honorbuddy, we have a lifetime until one of them fades. The lifetime means the time that it will take for one of these to stop existing.

 

[CodenameG]

You just can't be serious.

You know, last year I bought a car, I paid $20.000,00

I am 19, lets say I will live until I am 80

That will be 61 years, each year have 365 days...

61*365 = 22265 days

So, I paid, in fact, $0,89 cents a day for my car...


The problem is, my car will last as long as it is working, the same thing happens to WoW or the honorbuddy, we have a lifetime until one of them fades. The lifetime means the time that it will take for one of these to stop existing.

yes his numbers where slightly overstated. but the point remains, most people spend more on coffee or iphone apps. or lunch each day / week then they spend on a product that will last and you will use for years.

same thing with the car, the car makes you money, it takes you to work when you wouldn't be able to get there otherwise, you make more money with it then you do without it. and once its payed off its your car, and you have they money to do whatever the hell you want to with it.

 

[ripglider]

I'm not positive but I think when I bought lifetime it cost me around $100. I went in half with my little brother in law since you get 3 accounts. So that means it was about $50. HB has earned me a few 100k in gold, full PVP sets on all 10 of my 85's, all the PVE gear you can get with JP on all 10 toons, max archaeology on all toons, maxed all my gathering professions, given me the mats to max all the other professions, leveled all but 1 toon from 80-85, leveled 2 toons from 1-85, leveled 2 toons from about midway to 85, farmed me multiple pets, farmed me rep, done plenty of dailies including the fireland crap, earned me lots of achievements, and probably other things I can't think about. I've used EVERY aspect of HB for hours on end with zero interaction. All of them work. Maybe not perfect but nothing's ever perfect. People say the PVP looks like a bot, my pally got Wrecking Ball 3 days ago. I wasn't even home when it happened. A good bot still looks better than a bad played. I haven't had to write anything on my own except gathering profiles. I'm sure it's payed for itself. Sorry for the wall of text.

 

[A1l3n]

If you can find a better bot please do tell us. I've used every bot I could find that seem safe and I paid the price. Used AIO bot for a week and got warden banned on both my accounts. Thats when I realized "wtf and I doing" and knew since I've been using HB for 2 years without a ban. That HB will be the only bot I ever use until they shut down or WoW shuts down. Yea some stuff is broken. But they always end up trying to fix it and for the most part they do. I know Raphus is a great coder and is prob working really hard on fixing instance buddy. And Apoc to, His BG bot is great just need quite a bit of love. But it has the ability to be amazing.

But IMO I hope they don't put anything out till 4.3 comes out since it's right around the corner.

 

[theatristformallyknownasG]

if we release incomplete things you guys complain, alot of the main bot bases are being re-written, Instancebuddy for one, i know raphus wants to make sure that its perfect before releasing it, so we dont end up with the same problems.

And who would test this, the same people who test releases ? Obviously it works for them but not the majority of end users it seems. So why not release a beta version of IB, explain it may not work, you might get your account suspended and let the end users let Raphus know what is right and wrong. The closed group of people who do the testing now don't test anything enough and every release is full of old bugs and new ones.

I still use HB for a very limited purpose these days, don't even farm anymore with it like I used too. I get sick and tired of squashed bugs in one release making it back into another release down the track, this simply should not happen, and it does again and again and again though. I think that is where most people frustrations lie.

And when will some fix the fucking MESH problems, same probs in battlegrounds reported over and over, nothing ever done, same for general play, has someone lost the ability to fix this. Why can't someone write a plugin to mesh areas, give it to 100 people, run around the battlegrounds like crazy and upload the data to a central point, remove the duplicate data and provide a definitive mesh of an area/battleground, or is that over simplifying things ?

Cranky pants on today , sorry.

G

 

[no1knowsy]

But IMO I hope they don't put anything out till 4.3 comes out since it's right around the corner.

^^ This ^^
Why fix it, if you know it's going to break [soon]?

And who would test this, the same people who test releases ? Obviously it works for them but not the majority of end users it seems. So why not release a beta version of IB, explain it may not work, you might get your account suspended and let the end users let Raphus know what is right and wrong. The closed group of people who do the testing now don't test anything enough and every release is full of old bugs and new ones.

They do a TON of testing. And they don't want to put any extra risk on the users. You may be able to PM them, or ask them if you can test. You will probably get a "no", but it can't hurt to ask.

 

[theatristformallyknownasG]

^^ This ^^
Why fix it, if you know it's going to break [soon]?

Why fix any software, there is always something new around the corner, software and hardware always develops, just get in and do the hard yards now with WoW, yes it may be a waste of time, no it may not, you don't know unless you TRY, sitting on your hands procrastinating doesn't do any good.

G

 

[no1knowsy]

Why fix any software, there is always something new around the corner, software and hardware always develops, just get in and do the hard yards now with WoW, yes it may be a waste of time, no it may not, you don't know unless you TRY, sitting on your hands procrastinating doesn't do any good.

They could release it, but as you know, most users don't actually read the thread to know wtf they are trying to use.
Don't get me wrong, if they release even an Alpha for it, I'd be testing the shiiiiit out of it. They just don't want the smash'n'grab users to get screwed/pissed/complain.
Either way, I can't control what they're doing.
I'll see you guys later, time to get some food.

-Panda.

 

[CodenameG]

everyone has got out all everything they wanted to air.
thread closed.