[Questing] Horde 1-35 - ALL CLASSES!

[tubajedimr]

<PickUp QuestName="Disciples of Naralex" QuestId="26878" GiverName="Apothecary Helbrim" GiverId="3448"/>

This NPC doesn't have the requested quest. Bot stucks here for infinite period of time.

Must be a new thing

wowhead: This quest was marked obsolete by Blizzard and cannot be obtained or completed.

Quest removed in next posted version

 

[chinajade]

It had to be removed due to a user disputing the profile as "their own work" and as such was removed by a moderator despite all the changes to this profile as well as the user in question using other people's profiles in their own without permission as well.

I expect this to happen on the forums occasionally, because author's don't usually state their intentions, and people don't understand or choose not to respect Copyright law. (This is not in anyway an indictment on Tubajedimr, or anyone else--mistakes and misunderstandings happen.)

First IANAL; however, I've frequently had to use copyrighted/licensed work in my profession. This following is my understanding of the law. (And, I know we're in an International forum, and 'the law' is not the same everywhere.)

Unless explicitly stated, the original author retains full copyrights to their work. You may not modify it or redistribute it without their permission. If they intend for you to build upon their work, the author should make their expectations clear. Making an author's expectations clear is precisely what a 'license' provides--an author extends (or not) limited permissions to the user Community. The Wikipedia contains a comparison of dozens and dozens of these things.

The license that was picked for the Buddy Wiki is the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0. It is a very popular license that allows others to build on existing work, provided that they share it back to the community. However, in the forums, each author is the sole decider on how their work will be shared, and the licensing terms.

Nevertheless, I respect the community and anyone is free to use, edit, distribute and redistribute my profiles as they please.

This is a perfect example of an author making his expectations clear. Although, this belongs in the original post.

The statement is a little ambiguous in that it allows me to take and resell his profile without giving credit or financial contribution to the original author--I don't know if that was the intent or not. This is why its good to stick with 'known' licensing.

Of course, I would never resell the profile, but the ambiguous statement certainly gives me the privilege, as it is written.


So, it boils down to this...

• An author retains copyright ownership for any work they produce--whether the copyright is explicitly stated or not.
• Publishing work in a forum implicitly gives you permission to use the work, but that's all.
• You are not free to build on their work, unless you have explicit permission from the author, or the licensing terms under which the work was released grants you this privilege

Even if the law is different in your part of the globe, you should really extend commensurate respect to an author for his contribution.


Personally, I'm all for sharing, but we must respect the rights of others. One of my most favorite quotes is attributed to Sir Isaac Newton...

If I have seen further it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants.

cheers,
chinajade

 

[tubajedimr]

I expect this to happen on the forums occasionally, because author's don't usually state their intentions, and people don't understand or choose not to respect Copyright law. (This is not in anyway an indictment on Tubajedimr, or anyone else--mistakes and misunderstandings happen.)

First IANAL; however, I've frequently had to use copyrighted/licensed work in my profession. This following is my understanding of the law. (And, I know we're in an International forum, and 'the law' is not the same everywhere.)

Unless explicitly stated, the original author retains full copyrights to their work. You may not modify it or redistribute it without their permission. If they intend for you to build upon their work, the author should make their expectations clear. Making an author's expectations clear is precisely what a 'license' provides--an author extends (or not) limited permissions to the user Community. The Wikipedia contains a comparison of dozens and dozens of these things.

The license that was picked for the Buddy Wiki is the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0. It is a very popular license that allows others to build on existing work, provided that they share it back to the community. However, in the forums, each author is the sole decider on how their work will be shared, and the licensing terms.




This is a perfect example of an author making his expectations clear. Although, this belongs in the original post.

The statement is a little ambiguous in that it allows me to take and resell his profile without giving credit or financial contribution to the original author--I don't know if that was the intent or not. This is why its good to stick with 'known' licensing.

Of course, I would never resell the profile, but the ambiguous statement certainly gives me the privilege, as it is written.


So, it boils down to this...

• An author retains copyright ownership for any work they produce--whether the copyright is explicitly stated or not.
• Publishing work in a forum implicitly gives you permission to use the work, but that's all.
• You are not free to build on their work, unless you have explicit permission from the author, or the licensing terms under which the work was released grants you this privilege

Even if the law is different in your part of the globe, you should really extend commensurate respect to an author for his contribution.


Personally, I'm all for sharing, but we must respect the rights of others. One of my most favorite quotes is attributed to Sir Isaac Newton...



cheers,
chinajade

Two words....

Fair use.

 

[wow.ipoteka]

What is the previous post about, could you pls explain? I'm not very good in english.
This profile is stolen from someone ?

 

[wow.ipoteka]

Have you already worked on 20+ lvling?
It seems to me that it is not very complicated to create xml files. Maybe i could help you?

 

[tubajedimr]

What is the previous post about, could you pls explain? I'm not very good in english.
This profile is stolen from someone ?

No this profile is not stolen from someone. It is derivative of. Meaning they began the work, and saw no progress or updates for about 2 weeks, so I decided to continue it. I also have done substantial editing on this profile such that at this point, the amount of it that is part of the original profile is pretty much null.

 

[wow.ipoteka]

No this profile is not stolen from someone. It is derivative of. Meaning they began the work, and saw no progress or updates for about 2 weeks, so I decided to continue it. I also have done substantial editing on this profile such that at this point, the amount of it that is part of the original profile is pretty much null.

that's fair

 

[Liferose]

No this profile is not stolen from someone. It is derivative of. Meaning they began the work, and saw no progress or updates for about 2 weeks, so I decided to continue it. I also have done substantial editing on this profile such that at this point, the amount of it that is part of the original profile is pretty much null.

I usually wait a few months of the author not posting in it before using the code. I have been posting in it so saying it hasn't had "updates" is clearly no excuse.

 

[tubajedimr]

..........

 

[tubajedimr]

Profile Updated. Goblins Completed 1-12(13)


Also just performed a few hotfixes. Please re-download if you just did.

 

[guncar]

Its working for me too now thanks!

 

[wow.ipoteka]

With updates profile the bot was on the quest
<PickUp QuestName="Echeyakee" GiverName="Sergra Darkthorn" QuestId="881" GiverId="3338"/>
on 11 lvl, but should be on at least 14.
I think it is not normal. I wasn't watching the bot, so i don't know where is the mistake.

When the bot does quests 13+ lvl it can not go back to previous quests and stucks at lvl 11-12 with mobs 16lvl and dies infinetely

 

[tubajedimr]

With updates profile the bot was on the quest
<PickUp QuestName="Echeyakee" GiverName="Sergra Darkthorn" QuestId="881" GiverId="3338"/>
on 11 lvl, but should be on at least 14.
I think it is not normal. I wasn't watching the bot, so i don't know where is the mistake.

When the bot does quests 13+ lvl it can not go back to previous quests and stucks at lvl 11-12 with mobs 16lvl and dies infinetely

this probably has to do with a checkpoint in a bad spot. I will move it around and see what I can do. Thank you for letting me know.

 

[tubajedimr]

Updated

Added custom messages to help the Goblin questing. Download Message.CS from main post.

 

[derico5]

Started as Orc-Rouge Level 1. Bot will go to pick up the quest: The forgotten Pools and will dying like hell. Started as Troll-Rogue, the same. Always bot will take this quest(line) and not the starting-quests. Same with 3740 and 3804. So something's wrong?

 

[tubajedimr]

Started as Orc-Rouge Level 1. Bot will go to pick up the quest: The forgotten Pools and will dying like hell. Started as Troll-Rogue, the same. Always bot will take this quest(line) and not the starting-quests. Same with 3740 and 3804. So something's wrong?

probably. lemme check my code and I will update asap. Thank you for informing me.

 

[tubajedimr]

that is really weird. there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the code.

lemme play with it for a little while see if I can't fix this. again thank you

 

[tubajedimr]

Started as Orc-Rouge Level 1. Bot will go to pick up the quest: The forgotten Pools and will dying like hell. Started as Troll-Rogue, the same. Always bot will take this quest(line) and not the starting-quests. Same with 3740 and 3804. So something's wrong?

This error has been fixed. Thank you for noting it!

 

[derico5]

Ha, works now. Perfect thx Will report if anything more wrong.

Edit: Dunno if HB can handle this lvl 2 Troll-Quest: Proving Pit. The Char has first speak to Darkspear Jailor and click "I'm ready to face my challenge." and then kill the Captive Spitescale Scout. Edit2: Ha, if i stop HB and start again, he talks to that guy and start the pit. But not the first time. So i thing the check has to be first.

 

[grime]

ah just started this profile, a troll shammy but it seemsto run to get quest The Forgotten Pools, kept running past rachet NPCs and having a death fest. =s