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Perma banned in US but got a lift after a few hrs. Be ware.

This is where I say they have a automotive ban software for gold sellers or chinese farmers. My friend got banned and he never boted in his life but his a massive gold farmer, he got the account back also, all they said was sorry
 
I got my account back today as well. Lesson learned! Not doing this on my main again :)
 
For reals don't bot 7/24 if u don't wana get cought sooner or later its going to bite u in the ass no1 can stayup an play 7/24 make it look real play the game at norm times or bot the same as u play like I play around 7h each give or take an when Im not playing im botting for the same amount of time im playing around the same days of the week
 
Madcatz said:
For reals don't bot 7/24 if u don't wana get cought sooner or later its going to bite u in the ass no1 can stayup an play 7/24 make it look real play the game at norm times or bot the same as u play like I play around 7h each give or take an when Im not playing im botting for the same amount of time im playing around the same days of the week
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Blizzard don't know your the only one on the account they can't see whos sitting behind the chair you could contest it even if it was a 24/7 bot simply stating that you share the account with your family that's one way around it, pays to be a bullshit artist, something I tend to have fairly down pat lol!
When I initially started botting I rang Blizzard and felt my account may have been compromised at the time, so I will bring that information up again if I wanted to and suggest say that will I am outraged that you say I am using a 3rd party program considering I rang up earlier stating my account was compromised and you said you could not see anything on your end, what kind of company are you running should I get my account back I will continue to play or I will simply quit and refer this game as a waste of money and they will ban you for no apparent reason, then watch them give my account back like horrified school girls going on a ghost tour!
Oh yeah I spun some crap about the random generated passwords going into my log on screen and that I felt my authenticator was acting a little suspiciously slow, bullshit baffles brains! However if I do get a perma ban its a good reason for me to quit I could not care a less to play wow any more it's the same shit another new day, I really only enjoy the botting side of things but its not working as I would like, so I could not care a less now.
Bossland has been rather sloppy handling HB and Blizzard is handling things rather sloppy as well, all about sales at the end of the day I understand but ignore one program/website only giving devs limited tools to do the job etc and don't handle business appropriately and keep spinning us bullshit to delay time so you can focus on other bots rather than paying particular attention to HB expect to loose satisfied people.
 
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Maybe Namook but if you read the TOS you are not allowed to share your account even with family, And they could just say we dont beleive you bang ban, Also if you was sharing a account or say you are. Could always put parent control on so it looks more real....But again is your kid going to play at 5am till 5pm and you play over night? lol
 
razer said:
Maybe Namook but if you read the TOS you are not allowed to share your account even with family, And they could just say we dont beleive you bang ban, Also if you was sharing a account or say you are. Could always put parent control on so it looks more real....But again is your kid going to play at 5am till 5pm and you play over night? lol
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Actually there is quite a lot of families that do share accounts and have kids play over night etc, I know a few in particular not something I would let my kids do etc, but it does happen. One case in particular even told blizzard they were sharing accounts and the GM was not fussed one bit, they said they had been compromised which they were and got accounts back, even used pirox at the time which blizzard didn't notice. As for the part in TOS no I have missed reading that particular part about sharing accounts I was not aware it was not aloud, as far as my understanding was it was just a security risk sharing accounts and they don't advice it which I read from the tip on log on screen, as for the TOS agreement I do tend to skip through most of it and only read what applies to me. That would be something I would read into prior before I did make such complaints however to back my story up at the time, hardly going to do that for a forum however.
 
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A friend of mine who is kiwi won't pay for more than one account so what he does, is he plays for x amount of time, then his wife plays for x amount of time, and each daughter plays for x amount of time, one of them are normally on accounts at odd times, he works funny hours working in a bakery, so you generally always see one person on his account under the same battle.net/real id friend. I know what you are saying and yes it is a valid point, though I would do extensive research then just making random rants to blizzard I my self am well aware of the possibilities and its not as simple as making up some jargon until you know 100 percent what you say can be backed up by some other form of bullshit that does go along side guidelines or what not. Something I am personally good at having been in the Australian Military, the amounts of charges you have to try and get out of, then back your self legally can be quite a joke. Some of these examples are you out smarted a warrant officer and made him look like a fool so now his after you 100 times more, out to punish you and try to charge you with any thing as small as facial hair and saying you did not shave before 0700 hours and can get quite ridiculous, same guy also tried to charge me for having a girl in the army barracks aged 17 which in Victoria it was legal at the time provided I was not the parent or legal guardian which happens to be my sons mother, I was 20 at the time. In other states is different laws, this is something I researched prior to meeting her. So if people can not cover there tracks prior that is something they need to find out for them selves or be in the hurt locker thats not my choice but theirs, some food for thought there.
He never could charge me as he did not understand the rules effectively for one in the standing orders nothing was mentioned about girls/guys/family at that particular base that were not aloud to stay it was just thought you were not aloud to him, where is I did read standing orders and I did ring legal aid and did extensive research prior to meeting the 17 year old girl via online with updated legal amendments, which quite often change. It is ones own responsibility to be smart enough and not trust what others say as they may have been mislead by information them selves.
Not every GM will take your bullshit and knows exactly what your trying to do sometimes and may just give you that perma ban for good you can only try 110 percent to get around the system and I always do tend to find that loop hole, threatening media etc always tends to go along way as they do not want to damage sales, this I tend to apply more so to telstra (my isp provider) as they might not care them selves, when things are made public one manager would be out raged and shit rolls down hill, they tend to handle you with care then, thinking outside the square can go along way and achieve results with in seconds, if I wait like most fools I could be on the phone for say 45 mins, if I was clever I would ring complaints as they want to butter you up asap before you do make trouble and they handle the task for you with in 5 mins opposed to 45 mins of wait time then some uneducated fool then taking another 20 mins on top of that.
On that note hopefully I can log back in to bot as I was kicked off the server rather unusually, otherwise I have a lot of crap I need to invent to a GM would be kinda boring not to bot for the next 2 days, after that I don't care lol
 
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^ holy wall of text.

TL;DR you can only try 110% to get around the system and he always intends to find that loop hole. : )
 
zer0v3locity said:
Not in my case....I was actually playing my toon when it happened. :(
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Uptime can be used as another piece of circumstantial evidence, but typically, it's the 250+ auctions a day that got you burned.

Abuse of the Economy

See this ? This refers to your ECONOMIC activities. Most people don't play the AH at all, and all you do is farm and post there. You should split things between accounts.

Here is a setup, which should protect your investment fine.

1. Battlechest account for posting on AH.
2. Your own guild, pimped with plugins from this forum with a few hundred members. The more the better.
3. Other precautions.

Here is how you should play it out.

1. Make a guild, invite people into it. Keep inviting as much as you can. They will level up the guild for you and generate gold for its bank to function properly. Give them some daily repairs allowance, say, 25g for members and more for people who try to run raids, because they will eventually try. Most of these expenses will be covered by the money your members are generating with their activities around the world automatically. See how much they are really pulling from the bank for repairs, and if it's really nothing, increase the allowance, to appear generous, if it's too much, decrease it.

2. Make a Guild Bank, with say 2 public tabs and as much private tabs as you need. Members will deposit mats in there, exchange stuff, basically, they will fill your bank for you and according to the rules of the game everything in the Guild Bank belongs to the guild.

3. Log on your Battlechest account, make a lowbie, invite it into the guild, let it withdraw all the mats from your own tabs you intend to post, post them on the AH, come back 24hrs or 12hrs later, collect the money deposit them in the bank, delete the lowbie. When you have more mats in your private tabs for posting, make another lowbie, invite, post, collect gold, deposit into GB, delete lowbie. Make the lowbies with different names, so competitors won't be able to catch you and it will look to them like someone just came, emptied their bags and disappeared. You could split the auctions between different lowbies to appear to others like a single character isn't posting 250+ items, but 5 characters are posting 50 items.

4. When guild dings 25, log on one of your lowbies and start spamming Trade that you are selling a Guild. Monetize the guild and start over.

5. PROFIT!
 
Kronz said:
Uptime can be used as another piece of circumstantial evidence, but typically, it's the 250+ auctions a day that got you burned.

Abuse of the Economy

See this ? This refers to your ECONOMIC activities. Most people don't play the AH at all, and all you do is farm and post there. You should split things between accounts.

Here is a setup, which should protect your investment fine.

1. Battlechest account for posting on AH.
2. Your own guild, pimped with plugins from this forum with a few hundred members. The more the better.
3. Other precautions.

Here is how you should play it out.

1. Make a guild, invite people into it. Keep inviting as much as you can. They will level up the guild for you and generate gold for its bank to function properly. Give them some daily repairs allowance, say, 25g for members and more for people who try to run raids, because they will eventually try. Most of these expenses will be covered by the money your members are generating with their activities around the world automatically. See how much they are really pulling from the bank for repairs, and if it's really nothing, increase the allowance, to appear generous, if it's too much, decrease it.

2. Make a Guild Bank, with say 2 public tabs and as much private tabs as you need. Members will deposit mats in there, exchange stuff, basically, they will fill your bank for you and according to the rules of the game everything in the Guild Bank belongs to the guild.

3. Log on your Battlechest account, make a lowbie, invite it into the guild, let it withdraw all the mats from your own tabs you intend to post, post them on the AH, come back 24hrs or 12hrs later, collect the money deposit them in the bank, delete the lowbie. When you have more mats in your private tabs for posting, make another lowbie, invite, post, collect gold, deposit into GB, delete lowbie. Make the lowbies with different names, so competitors won't be able to catch you and it will look to them like someone just came, emptied their bags and disappeared. You could split the auctions between different lowbies to appear to others like a single character isn't posting 250+ items, but 5 characters are posting 50 items.

4. When guild dings 25, log on one of your lowbies and start spamming Trade that you are selling a Guild. Monetize the guild and start over.

5. PROFIT!
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EPIC - Stick support.
 
Abuse of economy is the generic ban response , after further investigations they claim it was due to 3rd party software , just because it says Abuse of economy doesnt mean its the real reason .

they could put "cuz we feel like it , get shit on " and theres nothing u can do

800+ auctions 7 days a week 365 a year and my auction accounts never got the hammer /shrug
 
Agree on getting reported in BG's - this is where botters directly ruin the fun for players who want to play objectives. I am completely sympathetic to players who want to report for this.

I was really appalled/annoyed/aghast at finding HB defaulted to throw you in random bg's when nothing else was going on when i first installed it - what a great way to put new users at the highest ban risk they could possibly be. Got afk kicked too, based on deserter debuff. THe bot really should not default to random bg when scripts otherwise finished.

as far as number of auctions as an issue, I suspect it is more about number of auctions posted versus number bought. I buy literally hundreds of auctions a day for crafting and surely buy far more than I sell, quantitatively, due to the incremental reduction in qty of goods from milling/prospecting/vendoring etc. If you see an account with 10000 auctions bought in last month and 2000 posted, with net gold revenue of 1.5m, is it a bot-good reseller or just a guy buying stuff and crafting/vendoring/ah'ing?
 
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