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was that necessary to say on the forums?
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His original comment was posted on the forums. I'm still not exactly sure why he directed his rage toward me, but I would have to answer this one with a "yes".
a mod posting something like that is childish, and again lack of customer support and regards
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I'll have to respectfully disagree cylak. Posting that someone was just muted for bad behavior is pretty standard on lots of forums; it also has the added affect of reminding members what is and is not okay.
Per the lack of information while the bot was down, I agree with you there, but I think this was a separate matter (and a bit personal in regards to me!).
Anyhow, we're way off topic, and it's probably time to move on from this thread anyway.
Per the lack of information while the bot was down, I agree with you there, but I think this was a separate matter (and a bit personal in regards to me!).
Anyhow, we're way off topic, and it's probably time to move on from this thread anyway.
no mod posts if they have muted anyone, well no mod from decent sized companies.
And for whats not okay, is being told by a mod , to not annoy him and spam other threads because, something i pay for isnt working.
The lack of respect shown on these forums by the people who run them is appalling.
That aside , lets get back on topic, when is the bloody nav server getting started, paying customers are waiting.
And for whats not okay, is being told by a mod , to not annoy him and spam other threads because, something i pay for isnt working.
The lack of respect shown on these forums by the people who run them is appalling.
That aside , lets get back on topic, when is the bloody nav server getting started, paying customers are waiting.
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You can't attack other members who also have post counts and contribute in positive ways to the forums. All crikey does is bitch and moan when the bot goes down, he never does anything helpful. The forums will not suffer his absence.
He's welcome to post what he likes, but in the real world actions have consequences.
*2* minutes after your previous post, you post yet another whining, instead of just editing the previous post. That's why you both have such high post counts; Quantity means nothing with a complete absence of quality.
Cylak, what you guys have to understand is that what they said when they brought the bot back was that it would be on life support with little to no development.
You complain about a service you pay for not working, but this is also where the question of getting what you pay for comes in to play. For, what, 15-20 U.S. dollars for 3 months (22-17 cents a day) we get the bot on life support. If it'll shut crikey the hell up, I'll paypal him 17 cents (refund for the one day it was down).
I understand that the lack of communication, and downtime with the nav server is frustrating. It frustrates me. It's also very frustrating that they don't communicate with us but one has to understand that we are paying dirt, and so little people use the bot to begin with, that it really isn't very profitable for them.
What you guys have to understand, is the alternative to what we have isn't ramping up customer service and putting more people on the SWTOR bot for more development and faster patches.... the alternative is hitting it in the head with a shovel and putting it down (like they did before, until we begged for it to come back). I don't know if you were, or were not, one of the ones locked out of the bot (judging by your totally awesome massive postcount which has merit for some reason), but for those of us completely locked out not able to use it at all, this is a massive improvement for which I am grateful. People who aren't short sighted (you know us as the cock sucking brigade) realize that complaining and throwing a bitch fit, if it accomplishes anything at all, will only accomplish getting the bot euthanized.
So by all means, voice your displeasure with the lack of communication, lack of bug fixes and lack of support. It's well within your right... but keep in mind your tone and attitude and keep things in perspective while you're doing it. We're not paying for bot development, we're paying for this bot to be on life support, the nav server to be powered on, and for Aevitas to turn the 390 into a 391. That's it, the rest is on us and anything else they throw us is a bonus.
P.S. I'll go on record saying I'd love to see a legit mount fix, and a bot vendor fix as well. These fixes are important, possibly bot breaking. If we start seeing banwaves because of the mount problem THEN I'll be mad. Hopefully Aevitas gets enough time away from bots that are actually profitable to them to make it happen.
You complain about a service you pay for not working, but this is also where the question of getting what you pay for comes in to play. For, what, 15-20 U.S. dollars for 3 months (22-17 cents a day) we get the bot on life support. If it'll shut crikey the hell up, I'll paypal him 17 cents (refund for the one day it was down).
I understand that the lack of communication, and downtime with the nav server is frustrating. It frustrates me. It's also very frustrating that they don't communicate with us but one has to understand that we are paying dirt, and so little people use the bot to begin with, that it really isn't very profitable for them.
What you guys have to understand, is the alternative to what we have isn't ramping up customer service and putting more people on the SWTOR bot for more development and faster patches.... the alternative is hitting it in the head with a shovel and putting it down (like they did before, until we begged for it to come back). I don't know if you were, or were not, one of the ones locked out of the bot (judging by your totally awesome massive postcount which has merit for some reason), but for those of us completely locked out not able to use it at all, this is a massive improvement for which I am grateful. People who aren't short sighted (you know us as the cock sucking brigade) realize that complaining and throwing a bitch fit, if it accomplishes anything at all, will only accomplish getting the bot euthanized.
So by all means, voice your displeasure with the lack of communication, lack of bug fixes and lack of support. It's well within your right... but keep in mind your tone and attitude and keep things in perspective while you're doing it. We're not paying for bot development, we're paying for this bot to be on life support, the nav server to be powered on, and for Aevitas to turn the 390 into a 391. That's it, the rest is on us and anything else they throw us is a bonus.
P.S. I'll go on record saying I'd love to see a legit mount fix, and a bot vendor fix as well. These fixes are important, possibly bot breaking. If we start seeing banwaves because of the mount problem THEN I'll be mad. Hopefully Aevitas gets enough time away from bots that are actually profitable to them to make it happen.
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that was out of line this was a delayed update that caught even long time players by surprise. relax all good things take time would you prefer it is rushed out and done incorrectly?
I'm actually pretty pleased with the speed at which things are updated after patches. Anyone who's been botting for some time should be used to 24-48 hour update windows. Hell, I remember when Glider would be down for a day or two because Merc would want to comb through everything.
As Jests said, we're paying for a piece of software that is in maintenance mode. Everyone should have known that going in. But the speed of the updates? I can't see any issue with that what-so-ever.
As Jests said, we're paying for a piece of software that is in maintenance mode. Everyone should have known that going in. But the speed of the updates? I can't see any issue with that what-so-ever.
Sammyjenkins
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Generation Impatient.
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As I read through the many comments and statements many have made over the last few days I feel a deep sad pity for those that have struggled over time with the bot and for those that find hurling insults on the boards bring results on both sides of the arguments. I understand Cylak's and Crikey's complaints as they are the same of many a user but the path chosen to vent their feelings is yes sometimes misguided but still points of validity are made. As for Jests rebuttal that those using this bot understood what they were getting in their purchase, I could not disagree more. But instead of hurling insults and half truths about I decided to retrace my steps when it came to purchasing the bot with the points that Jests states. Jests stated "So by all means, voice your displeasure with the lack of communication, lack of bug fixes and lack of support. It's well within your right... but keep in mind your tone and attitude and keep things in perspective while you're doing it. We're not paying for bot development, we're paying for this bot to be on life support, the nav server to be powered on, and for Aevitas to turn the 390 into a 391. That's it, the rest is on us and anything else they throw us is a bonus."
Well I have been here about a month perhaps a week more but not much. I did enjoy the use of a mount for a couple weeks but then all here knows what happened with that. I retraced my purchase to see if what you stated was fact, that I knew when I purchased the bot that it was on life support and would receive no advancement in its development. If you look upon buddywing.com it states the following this very moment: "Fully Functional" Now then only a fool would believe that every kink and issue would always be fixed and one could argue that it is to be expected that issues would go unresolved, lets say the bot was having an issue with a particular crew skill or a hiccup in rotation from time to time, those are to be expected but when purchasing a product that states "Fully functional" in a MMO the act of lets say mounting would in fact be a major functionality of the bot and therefore taking seriously. Now upon my purchase if Jests words were written upon the buddywing.com page stating: Warning this bot is not one we support on a daily basis and major functionality will falter within the program. Well then shame on me for buying said product because I knew going in I was buying a product the in your words was "On life support" but I didn't I based my purchase on the fact that I have used their other bots for other MMO's and that generally all major functional components are dealt with in a timely manner.
In the end there are other alternatives for SWTOR when it comes to botting. It is not my place to post here what those are but they are met with a higher degree of professionalism with regards to customer service and the drive to keep the bot up to a certain standard. Now why then would I still post something here? There are good people here, In using Pure's rotation, it is the #1 routine bar none that I have come across. Also those other programs do lack certain aspects of this bot and if maintained to peak standards, this bot would blow those others away when it comes to ease of use.
I am still using this bot from time to time when I feel like playing by hand and using Pure's routine and use another bot when I want to credit grind because of functionality such as mounting but alas I believe one point Jests made is true: "I'll go on record saying I'd love to see a legit mount fix, and a bot vendor fix as well. These fixes are important, possibly bot breaking. If we start seeing banwaves because of the mount problem THEN I'll be mad."
That my friends is coming. You can see it already in the few posts on boards that discuss bots and the fact that I can now sit back and tell you what players are using this bot just by watching them because they stand at the vendor for 30 min. or run from Point A to Point B with no reason to do so is like painting their toons with a large red X.
Well I have been here about a month perhaps a week more but not much. I did enjoy the use of a mount for a couple weeks but then all here knows what happened with that. I retraced my purchase to see if what you stated was fact, that I knew when I purchased the bot that it was on life support and would receive no advancement in its development. If you look upon buddywing.com it states the following this very moment: "Fully Functional" Now then only a fool would believe that every kink and issue would always be fixed and one could argue that it is to be expected that issues would go unresolved, lets say the bot was having an issue with a particular crew skill or a hiccup in rotation from time to time, those are to be expected but when purchasing a product that states "Fully functional" in a MMO the act of lets say mounting would in fact be a major functionality of the bot and therefore taking seriously. Now upon my purchase if Jests words were written upon the buddywing.com page stating: Warning this bot is not one we support on a daily basis and major functionality will falter within the program. Well then shame on me for buying said product because I knew going in I was buying a product the in your words was "On life support" but I didn't I based my purchase on the fact that I have used their other bots for other MMO's and that generally all major functional components are dealt with in a timely manner.
In the end there are other alternatives for SWTOR when it comes to botting. It is not my place to post here what those are but they are met with a higher degree of professionalism with regards to customer service and the drive to keep the bot up to a certain standard. Now why then would I still post something here? There are good people here, In using Pure's rotation, it is the #1 routine bar none that I have come across. Also those other programs do lack certain aspects of this bot and if maintained to peak standards, this bot would blow those others away when it comes to ease of use.
I am still using this bot from time to time when I feel like playing by hand and using Pure's routine and use another bot when I want to credit grind because of functionality such as mounting but alas I believe one point Jests made is true: "I'll go on record saying I'd love to see a legit mount fix, and a bot vendor fix as well. These fixes are important, possibly bot breaking. If we start seeing banwaves because of the mount problem THEN I'll be mad."
That my friends is coming. You can see it already in the few posts on boards that discuss bots and the fact that I can now sit back and tell you what players are using this bot just by watching them because they stand at the vendor for 30 min. or run from Point A to Point B with no reason to do so is like painting their toons with a large red X.
You're not wrong about the not mounting being a big red X. Aevitas has said he's working on it, so hopefully he is.
Would you do me a favor and PM me the names of those other bots? I've done a lot of investigating in botting for SWTOR before I bought Buddywing and all the other bots weren't NEARLY as good as this bot. I don't mean this as an "I don't believe you" statement... I'm sincerely curious if I missed one. The next best thing I found was VIPER, and that thing is total garbage.
You've only been here a week so I guess we're looking through different lenses. I, for instance, had not read what you were talking about with the "fully functioning" bot thing... I would make the argument that it is "functioning" (albeit, barely sometimes) but still, I take your point.
I'm serious about the other bots, btw, I would really be a big fan of yours if you'd send me those. I'd like to look around and see if I really am missing something and you know something I don't.
Would you do me a favor and PM me the names of those other bots? I've done a lot of investigating in botting for SWTOR before I bought Buddywing and all the other bots weren't NEARLY as good as this bot. I don't mean this as an "I don't believe you" statement... I'm sincerely curious if I missed one. The next best thing I found was VIPER, and that thing is total garbage.
You've only been here a week so I guess we're looking through different lenses. I, for instance, had not read what you were talking about with the "fully functioning" bot thing... I would make the argument that it is "functioning" (albeit, barely sometimes) but still, I take your point.
I'm serious about the other bots, btw, I would really be a big fan of yours if you'd send me those. I'd like to look around and see if I really am missing something and you know something I don't.
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Thank you for seeing my points. I believe as a community that this is how we should be arguing the points of this bot. I tried in a calm manner to make my points heard while acknowledging that Jests had valid views and I even believe Cylak and Crikey are correct but may have stepped on toes when folks may have not been prepared with steel toe boots. I did sign up for another bot that I am using but as I stated I believe this bot to be the premier bot if and when it is fully operational. Jests I'll PM you what I have going on with other programs and wouldn't mind getting to know a few of you since I have some really solid profiles I have written and wouldn't mind sharing with just a small group so they wouldn't be over run.