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Paladin CC rewrite - tell me what you want

fpsware

fpsware

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After spendin the last few days tweaking my Paladin CC I've decided to start from scratch and do a complete rewrite. This is your chance to tell me exactly what YOU want in a Paladin CC, please be as specific as possible.

What it will not have, customised rotation. No, you can't change this so stop asking.
 
The strongest pally spec, especially after 4.1, is Holy. There are no decent Holy healing routines which also can DPS, which is the Holy paladin's specialty. Granted, Ret or Prot are the best for leveling and therefore botting, but Holy has been largely ignored. I'm not the best on rotations or priority sytems but if no one else claims authority on the matter, I can try...

p.s. glad you're back hope the devastation has become a little manageable...
 
wn2142 said:
... glad you're back hope the devastation has become a little manageable...
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For the most part yes. I'm actually out of town for a few weeks helping my partents move house.
 
Its not "that" sufficient And it will now rarely be updated because his guild has made him go Tank so he wont be testing it anymore. And Raphus's is not soo good.
 
I would love to see a level 85 PvP Holy CC that could be used as a healbot. There are current no supported Holy Paladin PvP CC's out there.

In the other hand, I use your CC for ret as well and don't want to lose that.
 
Your current cc + it uses Zealtory and Inquistion, then im happy ;)
 
Here is a list of stuff i would like you to add.

1. more options, for example the i would like to be able to turn AOE abilities on or off and also to lets say how many adds you need to be fighting to use it.
2. a way to save settings so you can use it on several computers/characters. like you can do on this CC http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorbuddy-forum/classes/paladin/13713-convalesce-4-1-beta-2-a.html
3. better/faster targeting not sure if you can do that.
4. ressing/buffing? when in groups.
For inspiration look at the convalescence CC i linked, it is great but has not been updated for a long time and misses some stuff.
 
Holy dps/heal function. It's really viable for levelling with and dungeon damage until 80 or so. If you could implement that. And a way for it to choose between dps or heal depending on the dungeon spot it's given of use in conjunction with instancebuddy, then just dps if running mixed e.g. ib/grinding. The rotation is as easy as exorcism spam but using seal of truth I think it is + holy shock when available. Practically it until you get inquisition lol.

To be even more demanding. Holy pvp that checks how many players are healer classes in a bg. Just the class not spec. If it's it 25 man bg with only 4 beakers or so then it uses Heal functions rather than dps, if there's say 20 healers, it assumes at least half of them have healing specs and you purely dps in the bg..

Just a few desires of mine hah.
 
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Something I just saw someone request in another thread I would like to see implemented in the Ret portion of this CC.

For movement while in combat, have it run a check to first make sure you are in a BG, because this would look stupid in instances or solo grinding I feel. For BG's:

If in front of target move to back of target;
If in back of target move front of target.

Something like that would make it look more like a human. When you PvP you don't just stand still and fight someone, there is a lot of running around trying to make them miss and say it's a rogue not letting them get behind you, etc. Something like I mentioned would make the Paladin run around a lot more and look more like a real human in PvP.

As for Holy and Ret, if something could be done like the Singular CC they are making. The one CC would be make for Holy and Ret (maybe Prot in the future, who knows) and have it auto detect what spec I am then run the CC based off my current spec.

Edit: I saw someone put they wanted RAF logic. To expand in that, something I would like to see is a Holy RAF logic that I can select who the bot targets. I have two accounts that I PvP with, a Ret and Holy Paladin. Having a RAF logic that can follow my Ret Paladin in PvP, soloing instances (solo as in just me and the holy bot) or just running around Azeroth. Have it so the bot will heal me, dispel me, is there a speed debuff ok me? If yes hand if freedom, etc, and be able to select only my character so if I'm in Alterac Valley and there is 39 other people running around, my of healbot is focused in me and ignores everyone else. After all, it's my bot :). I don't care about it healing others.

That's what I would like in a RAF logic, simple explanation would be ability to only target one player, that I select who, and concentrate in healing/dispelling that one target only.
 
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These comments are exactly what I want to see, thanks for the feedback. I'll see what I can do with it.
 
Have you considered joining the Singular project fpsware?
You are coding on many diffrent classes, so does Singular, or rather the people behind it.
I have seen Raphus and Bobby already contributing stuff there, not just working on their own Shamwow and Ensemble codebase.
I think , merging the efforts of all the "big players" in cc-coding and not reinventing the wheel a few times would be good.
 
5. an option to decide how close to the tank you should move as ret DPS in dungeons, it looks a bit botish when you go to the tank to kill a mob then walks back to stand next to the mages/hunters :D
 
laria said:
Have you considered joining the Singular project fpsware?
You are coding on many diffrent classes, so does Singular, or rather the people behind it.
I have seen Raphus and Bobby already contributing stuff there, not just working on their own Shamwow and Ensemble codebase.
I think , merging the efforts of all the "big players" in cc-coding and not reinventing the wheel a few times would be good.
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I would like to see fpsware make his own CC. That way there is competition and the CCs can only get better. If someone on singular takes these ideas and implements it then both if the CCs would work great and have each author adding more and more to it, they would force the other author to make something better, and so on.

Edit: more on the healbot RAF logic, having the healbot heal me, but also determine if he is take to much damage and focus on himself with heals, dispels, hand if w/e so he doesnt constantly get trained on by 2 or more targets cause he is just healing and not worrying about himself.
 
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