Oracle - Open Beta [CC]

[Soeski]

Wulf, in relation to my HB Framelock-issue, I've now found out it's primarily with Oracle. I changed to TuanHA (SE) and while the fps still drops when enabling framelock, the cpu usage of HB does not go crazy at all. I can supply another log file if you want, but so far it's the combination of HB 406, Oracle and Tyrael that makes cpu usage go crazy and unplayable with HB Framelock on.

 

[wulf]

Wulf, in relation to my HB Framelock-issue, I've now found out it's primarily with Oracle. I changed to TuanHA (SE) and while the fps still drops when enabling framelock, the cpu usage of HB does not go crazy at all. I can supply another log file if you want, but so far it's the combination of HB 406, Oracle and Tyrael that makes cpu usage go crazy and unplayable with HB Framelock on.

What class were you again? my CPU never gets above 20% 100tps, flocked.

 

[Soeski]

What class were you again? my CPU never gets above 20% 100tps, flocked.

That's the "good" part. I've tried 3 classes now:
Holy Paladin, Mistweaver Monk and Restoration Druid. All 3 have the same issue.
CPU usage of WoW is normally between 37% and 50%; HB takes up the rest when turning on framelock. (>45%, HB window gest unresponsive), fps drops to below 20.

Using TuanHA SE (I know it cannot be discussed here actually) WoW still takes up 37-50%, HB takes up 12% but still fps drops below 20.

Using Tyrael framelock with either CR WoW uses 37-50% cpu but HB only uses about 2%, I get 45+ fps.
My system is a Core i5-2500K@4,4GHz with an AMD 7950 OC'd with 16 GB RAM. I play at 1920x1200x"Good" settings. DX9, V-Sync on. No custom lag tolerance, windowed mode, no "reduce Input Lag" setting, no "triple buffering" and yes "hardware cursor".

 

[jet_xu2013]

Anyone else noticed, even if a tanks going very low it has penance up it doesn't cast it iv been manually doing it.
or any heal seems a bit low on noticing tanks are taking heavy damage? have i got something ticked wrongly as many people have awesome results with this?

Was thinking add another bit of code for PenanceTank() and have that as high up in the priority list as possible.

i met the same problem,when i use oracle even if a tanks going very low it has penance up it doesn't cast it iv been manually doing it.
i suggest wulf to test it in test field in White tiger temple, even when the tank going to die, oracle doesn't cast it and just stand there to wait, i have got Infinite treatment success with my hand, but i can't pass 4/8 in Silver tried with this oracle...

 

[bennyquest]

i met the same problem,when i use oracle even if a tanks going very low it has penance up it doesn't cast it iv been manually doing it.
i suggest wulf to test it in test field in White tiger temple, even when the tank going to die, oracle doesn't cast it and just stand there to wait, i have got Infinite treatment success with my hand, but i can't pass 4/8 in Silver tried with this oracle...

once again I will say I have not seen this happen. Will someone post a log of this so I can test it....I literally never hand cast penance when i did the proven healer achievement with my priest.

 

[r0sc0]

See its a coding issue, when tanks dropping fast it casts pain supres.. but doesnt cast any heals! so I dont know if its a placement issue with Prio selector but id suggest a PenenaceTank() at top.

 

[Hapie]

Hey Wulf, I know I asked for Totemic Recall function, but is there any way you can add Riptide Blanketing if using Glyph of Riptide and no Glyph of Chaining? certain fights do not require chaining but using riptide on them is the best.

 

[slator]

Using Disc Priest in Proving Grounds, all it casts is Penance. It's not shielding, not renewing, not casting heal, not casting Prayer of Mending, etc. This is with "Proving Grounds Logic" set to true using HB Beta.

I looked at the output in the bot window and saw it trying to spam offensive spells (Smite, Holy Fire) on the tank.

Edit: If i turn OFF "Use offensive spells", it just shields himself and does nothing else. So it's clearly only using penance on the tank as an offensive spell, not as a heal.

 

[bennyquest]

Using Disc Priest in Proving Grounds, all it casts is Penance. It's not shielding, not renewing, not casting heal, not casting Prayer of Mending, etc. This is with "Proving Grounds Logic" set to true using HB Beta.

I looked at the output in the bot window and saw it trying to spam offensive spells (Smite, Holy Fire) on the tank.

Edit: If i turn OFF "Use offensive spells", it just shields himself and does nothing else. So it's clearly only using penance on the tank as an offensive spell, not as a heal.

Well the reason your was not working is because it was out of range of everything....I also bet....you did not do proving grounds right...

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...30338-oracle-open-beta-cc-76.html#post1306695 read what i said in that post.

 

[slator]

Well the reason your was not working is because it was out of range of everything....I also bet....you did not do proving grounds right...

http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...30338-oracle-open-beta-cc-76.html#post1306695 read what i said in that post.

I was in range, as I was able to manually healing spells on my target just fine. I will give your workaround a try, but it still needs fixed.

Also, where in the log does it indicate I was out of range?

[13:36:06.241 N] [Oracle [1.0.0.282]]: [DIAG] Casting Holy Fire on Oto the Protector at 18.0 yds at 12.4%
[13:36:06.269 D] Replaced hook [SingleTargetHealBehaviorHook] 81cce34d-60bb-4fd0-ab98-b25ca305a1e0
[13:36:06.269 D] Replaced hook [ClusteredHealBehavior] 4cee4cbb-5243-4e66-9d1e-2c97dc3640c0
[13:36:06.269 D] Replaced hook [CooldownsBehaviorHook] 87802da6-5718-4076-b395-cae5caf073da
[13:36:06.274 N] [Oracle [1.0.0.282]]: [DIAG] Casting Smite on Oto the Protector at 18.0 yds at 12.4%

 

[bennyquest]

I was in range, as I was able to manually healing spells on my target just fine. I will give your workaround a try, but it still needs fixed.

Also, where in the log does it indicate I was out of range?

[13:36:06.241 N] [Oracle [1.0.0.282]]: [DIAG] Casting Holy Fire on Oto the Protector at 18.0 yds at 12.4%
[13:36:06.269 D] Replaced hook [SingleTargetHealBehaviorHook] 81cce34d-60bb-4fd0-ab98-b25ca305a1e0
[13:36:06.269 D] Replaced hook [ClusteredHealBehavior] 4cee4cbb-5243-4e66-9d1e-2c97dc3640c0
[13:36:06.269 D] Replaced hook [CooldownsBehaviorHook] 87802da6-5718-4076-b395-cae5caf073da
[13:36:06.274 N] [Oracle [1.0.0.282]]: [DIAG] Casting Smite on Oto the Protector at 18.0 yds at 12.4%

towards the end you were out of range.

what i said was not a work around. that is how you have to do it. if not it does not recognize them as healable targets

 

[Soeski]

Wulf, if you have any clue about the high cpu usage of HB when using Oracle and the new Tyrael (or the old with HB framelock enabled) I'd love to hear it. I can not imagine it's just me, out of 100's or Oracle users.
Tried the same combination with Leaves bij Mirabis and all is fine. So, it seems to be something in the way Oracle is coded. I'm not a programmer at all, but it puzzles me that Tyrael framelock works perfect (2% cpu usage for HB) and HB framelock is terrible (40%+)
With the latest version of Tyrael, who just uses the HB framelock, of course I'm having the same issue: 40%+ cpu usage and fps drops.

 

[Unimatrix]

I can not imagine it's just me, out of 100's or Oracle users.

Maybe its time to upgrade My wow uses about 20-30% and HB with new framelock uses 20-30% itself
so 50-60% CPU usage while I game is perfectly acceptable.

But you're right, it never was this intensive, i just didn't notice it because it doesn't bottleneck my CPU.
Perhaps some optimizations are in order mister Wulf

 

[Soeski]

Maybe its time to upgrade My wow uses about 20-30% and HB with new framelock uses 20-30% itself
so 50-60% CPU usage while I game is perfectly acceptable.

But you're right, it never was this intensive, i just didn't notice it because it doesn't bottleneck my CPU.
Perhaps some optimizations are in order mister Wulf

Thought an upgrade would not be neccesary yet.
My WoW uses 50% on heavy fights (LFR, AoE) but usually 40%.
HB uses 2% with Tyrael framelock and Oracle (40%+ with HB framelock and Oracle). That difference is too large.
I use a Core i5-2500K @ 4,16GHz with 16 GB RAM and a AMD 7950 OC'd. Should be enough for WoW and 1 HB bot right?

 

[Unimatrix]

Ive noticed oracle freezes the game if the HB framelock is above 30.

I usually have 80-100 fps without HB Oracle started...
and then with HB framelock at 60 i get 20-30 fps and random freezes.
and with HB framelock at 30 i get 40-50 fps without random freezes.

Don't really know what's going on, but at HB 30 it works fine and its actually faster than Tyrael own framelock.

 

[Soeski]

Ive noticed oracle freezes the game if the HB framelock is above 30.

I usually have 80-100 fps without HB Oracle started...
and then with HB framelock at 60 i get 20-30 fps and random freezes.
and with HB framelock at 30 i get 40-50 fps without random freezes.

Don't really know what's going on, but at HB 30 it works fine and its actually faster than Tyrael own framelock.

Tried 15/30/40/60/100 TPS, all the same result. HB window is not even responsive most of the time. Tyrael framelock works wonders. No lag or stutters whatsoever, Tyrael is much much faster than HB in that regard.

 

[Mirabis]

Tried 15/30/40/60/100 TPS, all the same result. HB window is not even responsive most of the time. Tyrael framelock works wonders. No lag or stutters whatsoever, Tyrael is much much faster than HB in that regard.

I think this is caused by the way framelock works;

Honorbuddy Framelock tries to do the following into 1 frame:

- It's own stuff
- Botbase tick
- Routine tick
- Plugin tick

While the previous Tyrael ( before update ) only framelocked the combat routine tick.

I could be wrong here, but just my thoughts.

 

[wulf]

I think this is caused by the way framelock works;

Honorbuddy Framelock tries to do the following into 1 frame:

- It's own stuff
- Botbase tick
- Routine tick
- Plugin tick

While the previous Tyrael ( before update ) only framelocked the combat routine tick.

I could be wrong here, but just my thoughts.

Yes you might be onto something. I have witnessed the frames drop to an unsatisfactory level these latest HB releases. Funny thing is I've barely touched the core. The first beta of this current release was smooth as butter.

I'll be investigating more, starting with the way I update units in pulse. Hang tight guys it may take me a week to get to the bottom of it.

Wulf

 

[bp423]

Yes you might be onto something. I have witnessed the frames drop to an unsatisfactory level these latest HB releases. Funny thing is I've barely touched the core. The first beta of this current release was smooth as butter.

I'll be investigating more, starting with the way I update units in pulse. Hang tight guys it may take me a week to get to the bottom of it.

Wulf

In the latest builds of HB, they added new framelocking technology. This could be having a conflict with Tyrael of the CR.

 

[Unimatrix]

This could be having a conflict with Tyrael of the CR.

Tyrael was just updated to use the framelock from HB.

Wulf, a week? That is reasonable, thank you for your hard work.