Oracle - Open Beta [CC]

[Soeski]

Excellent news then glad you are back! Just don't be a shady lurker....lol so people tell me what you are seeing from the powerful oracle...

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I'm hoping to test this tonight Got all healing classes so you'd better amaze me!
Only thing "worrying" in the introduction was "made for higher ilvl chars"... I was afraid of that. My highest ilvl char is 491, it's taken me months and months to get there (with 12 lvl 90's) and I'm proud of it

 

[ski]

I'm hoping to test this tonight Got all healing classes so you'd better amaze me!
Only thing "worrying" in the introduction was "made for higher ilvl chars"... I was afraid of that. My highest ilvl char is 491, it's taken me months and months to get there (with 12 lvl 90's) and I'm proud of it

It works best with higher (500+) characters, but we tested with lower ones also. I tested monk from 470+ and I'm currently testing hpally from 450+. The only advantage higher ilvl healers have when it comes to Oracle is mana regen, really.

 

[Staffix]

making me moist!..

might even consider going healer on 1 of my 12 lvl 90s :S

 

[Ruinit]

Thanks Wulf for letting us kick the tires Haven't tried zip yet but getting a compiler error from v191 svn version on latest hb build can post a log if needed.

Compiler Error: c:\Users\ALAN\Desktop\HB\Routines\oracle\Oracle\UI\Config.Designer.cs(110,25) : error CS1061: 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' does not contain a definition for 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' and no extension method 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' accepting a first argument of type 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

[14:57:59.913 N] Compiler Error: c:\Users\ALAN\Desktop\HB\Routines\oracle\Oracle\UI\Config.Designer.cs(131,26) : error CS1061: 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' does not contain a definition for 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' and no extension method 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' accepting a first argument of type 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

 

[ski]

Thanks Wulf for letting us kick the tires Haven't tried zip yet but getting a compiler error from v191 svn version on latest hb build can post a log if needed.

Compiler Error: c:\Users\ALAN\Desktop\HB\Routines\oracle\Oracle\UI\Config.Designer.cs(110,25) : error CS1061: 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' does not contain a definition for 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' and no extension method 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' accepting a first argument of type 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

[14:57:59.913 N] Compiler Error: c:\Users\ALAN\Desktop\HB\Routines\oracle\Oracle\UI\Config.Designer.cs(131,26) : error CS1061: 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' does not contain a definition for 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' and no extension method 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' accepting a first argument of type 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

Make sure you have .net 4.5 installed as it is required for Oracle. If you do, or still have this error after you do, post again.

 

[Ruinit]

Make sure you have .net 4.5 installed as it is required for Oracle. If you do, or still have this error after you do, post again.

Yea 4.5 is installed the zip file compiles fine so it is probably just a bug in the svn file

 

[Soeski]

It works best with higher (500+) characters, but we tested with lower ones also. I tested monk from 470+ and I'm currently testing hpally from 450+. The only advantage higher ilvl healers have when it comes to Oracle is mana regen, really.

Exactly my point; I go OOM on all my chars in LFR, except when there are 5 other healers with ilvl 510+. And still, WHILE BEING OOM during the boss fight for 5 minutes, I do not end up last... (using Leaves and TuanHA). I can't wait... sadly it's only 5.15pm here and thus still at work.

 

[Soeski]

I'm healing with my Holy Paladin with an average itemlvl of 494.
Either I'm #1 in heal or close to it.

So no worries!

How's the overhealing? So far using TuanHA and Leaves I am always no. 6 or even 7 (!) in overhealing in LFR, so the NET healing done by me (Healing minus Overhealing) often puts me on top.

 

[ski]

Yea 4.5 is installed the zip file compiles fine so it is probably just a bug in the svn file

Bunch of us are running the current revision now without that issue, so I don't think it's a bug with Oracle. Only time I've had that error was when I forgot to install net 4.5, so might have to wait for Wulf to wake up for more troubleshooting.

 

[ski]

How's the overhealing? So far using TuanHA and Leaves I am always no. 6 or even 7 (!) in overhealing in LFR, so the NET healing done by me (Healing minus Overhealing) often puts me on top.

I don't have numbers on my pally, but on my monk overhealing isn't bad - keeping in mind that a majority of the heals are HoTs and destined to overheal. This is a ToT 10N that we were 2healing. ilvl 495 MW Monk.

Here's a Tortos fight from a 25 LFR run. Around ilvl 493 I think.

I hover around 40% OH on my monk.

 

[bennyquest]

Thanks Wulf for letting us kick the tires Haven't tried zip yet but getting a compiler error from v191 svn version on latest hb build can post a log if needed.

Compiler Error: c:\Users\ALAN\Desktop\HB\Routines\oracle\Oracle\UI\Config.Designer.cs(110,25) : error CS1061: 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' does not contain a definition for 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' and no extension method 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' accepting a first argument of type 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

[14:57:59.913 N] Compiler Error: c:\Users\ALAN\Desktop\HB\Routines\oracle\Oracle\UI\Config.Designer.cs(131,26) : error CS1061: 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' does not contain a definition for 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' and no extension method 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' accepting a first argument of type 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

Delete your compiled assemblies, oracle folder AND HB/settings/oracle. Folder. Also reinstall .net 4.5. I know it seems like a lot but i believe it is all of them lol. If that does not work post a log for me almost home and I will check it out.

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[CynnerDev]

I'm not trying to knock this, but did a big comparison test today in a mixture of LFR and ToT H 25. The CC I always use, KingWoW seems to be far outperforming this one. I am unsure why, it seems this CC uses better logic. Stumped.I understand it's still open-beta. I may need to start compiling logs and such to put forward and try to work out the kinks. Anyone else using this as a disc priest?

 

[ski]

I'm not trying to knock this, but did a big comparison test today in a mixture of LFR and ToT H 25. The CC I always use, KingWoW seems to be far outperforming this one. I am unsure why, it seems this CC uses better logic. Stumped.I understand it's still open-beta. I may need to start compiling logs and such to put forward and try to work out the kinks. Anyone else using this as a disc priest?

I know there was some issues with disc priests this morning, but I don't run one so I'm not sure. If you can provide metrics they'd be helpful. You can rename all the names in a combatlog and upload to WoL or just use recount and report manually. Things like spell percentages, hps on which fights, how the other healers were doing, etc. Screenshots of recount details on bosses would help too, just edit out your name obviously.

There are huge swings in numbers depending on how competent the rest of the healers in the group are. I've had 30k hps numbers in groups with good healers and 110k hps on the same fight with shit healers, so it can vary widely.

 

[mnipper]

I'm not trying to knock this, but did a big comparison test today in a mixture of LFR and ToT H 25. The CC I always use, KingWoW seems to be far outperforming this one. I am unsure why, it seems this CC uses better logic. Stumped.I understand it's still open-beta. I may need to start compiling logs and such to put forward and try to work out the kinks. Anyone else using this as a disc priest?

Few things still need work for disc, for instance, Spirit Shell just heals 1 group. Logs would be helpful to help develop cr, or at least more specifics like if you are smite, aoe or combo.

 

[Sin702]

OMG finaly an OB. Cant wait to test this baby out. *bows to the PR team* Ill defintely will report as well as other people working with this.

 

[deeluxejon]

I'm not trying to knock this, but did a big comparison test today in a mixture of LFR and ToT H 25. The CC I always use, KingWoW seems to be far outperforming this one. I am unsure why, it seems this CC uses better logic. Stumped.I understand it's still open-beta. I may need to start compiling logs and such to put forward and try to work out the kinks. Anyone else using this as a disc priest?

Yeah check logs out perform is a double edge word. While most cr's just heal Oracle heal's smart. SO why you may not have bone crushing high numbers every fight most of the time you will be right up there in the mix without burning mana. I used Oracle on 10m heroics in a 2 heal combo and I finshed every fight with 40% or more mana and no one was dead in the raid. SO check logs...and lfr is really one of the worst places to try and see performance...many of times I have seen shaman's use HTT on the pull to inflate their numbers only to get caught by oracle 1 min into fight and I damn near no overheals.

 

[Sin702]

This was just a simple test for myself. I am very impressed as it is. This test was done on Oondasta, which i think is a good test for single boss, and this is how it ended.



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[pnyhgh]

my honorbuddy crashes when i try to use oracle

Compiler Error: c:\Users\Desktop\ORACLE\Routines\oracle\Oracle\UI\Config.Designer.cs(110,25) : error CS1061: 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' does not contain a definition for 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' and no extension method 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' accepting a first argument of type 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)
Compiler Error: c:\Users\Desktop\ORACLE\Routines\oracle\Oracle\UI\Config.Designer.cs(131,26) : error CS1061: 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' does not contain a definition for 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' and no extension method 'SelectedItemWithFocusBackColor' accepting a first argument of type 'System.Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

 

[Drizzt1990]

.net 4.5 installed? because the system.windows.form class should be .net....

Trying this CR on me realy bad RDruid... 475er gear, but still second in lfr, with the only one above me gearlevel 515

And would be way better if I wouldn't have mana problems duw to bad gear.

Thanks for this great CR

 

[Drizzt1990]

Everyone with Mana Problems: Go and take some time looking at the available settings.
Lowering some values here and there can make a difference!

Settings are there for a reason. You can't expect that a routine works wonders out of the box.

If you're reffering to me, I know that I could lower some values. I guess my zhird line came out wrong. I didn't mean that oracle should handle mana better. I wanted to say that Oracle would have totaly ripped the other healers apart, if it wasn't for my gear