Ok I dont want to get in trouble but just have to share this with you all.

[Dem]

The case when your char got a ban with only 1 day botting time doesn't imply that they detected the bot software. It could be the case that your char was connected with other bots with a common mule account, or they all shared the same IP... or smth else. That could be the reason.

Used VMware from start with *** for each machine, so I doubt it.
But lets stop here and not put the tinfoil hats on. We will find out pretty quickly when DB is back on. But after adding everything up I started to think in that direction - software detection. 1) Different HWIDs 2) Different IPs 3) DIFFERENT ACTS on some bots and still all chars banned. And if you think blizzard will check what mule you've joined a game with you are really wrong. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of accounts and blizzard is notorious for not having enough staff / being lazy.
I am not trying to blame DB team, what matters for me is not to be banned again or at least not soon enough so I can earn back what ive lost and have proffit. I really hope they'll find a way to save the comunity.

 

[blista08]

Ok I will share my experiance and what i did 5 of 5 banned after 4 months
so I made a conclusion that we are detected and heres what i did

Game time 8-12 hours with 5-10 min breaks in between randomized

each bot had a randomized profile meaning

ACT 1 For example Act 1 was custom and had 5 parts, All parts had 100 Different variations meaning timers, click points and all started differently for example 1,2,4,5,3 and then the next variation would start 1,4,2,3,5
I had 100 differant variations that i wrote myself. took me 3 days for just act 1 and about 15 hours each day. Each part started with start.xml
ACT 2 SAME FOR ACT 2 which had 7 parts all randomized same algorithm
ACT 3 AND ACT 3 Same scenario this had 9 parts

my profiles never got stuck
never.

On top of that I used YAR and randomized it even more with the scheduler which I changed every day.
Now to gold and item transfers I used unid items to xfer shuffle back and forth to make is look as legit as I could regullar people would do between 3 shuffle accounts and the 5 bots

The 3 shuffle accounts are ok
the bots are not.

There was/is a detection not sure if you guys are strongly against admitting to it but it would be nice if you did cause there is no way that they would catch up to this

I forgot to mention

I would change the RANDOMIZATION of the profiles each week

Meaning the 300 Different randomization's would be different then from the previous week.

Hows that for a cookie

Holy shit jake... You completely bypassed tin-foil-hat mode and directly built a tin foil house and even wore tin foil condoms. You sir have just been awarded a complimentary paranoia paragon level 100.

 

[blista08]

It is impossible for the bot to be undetected Impossible as i ran 1000s of different variations through out all of the months 4 months + how many ban waves did we have. Survived all of them but not this one, why?
I understand the business concept of this but dont lie to my face and tell me we are undetected because we are/were.

This thread is not about why, I was banned it or cause im crying because my precious account got fubared no. Its about the demonbuddy dropping the ball and instead of you guys perfecting the bot ex. would be getting some official plugins official maps finished you guys are playing with wow bots and didnt implement anything official into DB. Please help us out here Give us official Maps get random dungeons working plugins pause timers random ones reloggers official ones you guys know what this bot needs so whats going on with getting it done ?

There are so many different possibilities for the ban wave. Also, if it was software detection, no one on this forum would have an account right now. Coupled with the fact that this ban has stretched across every bot developer, I'm guessing that it's hardly a software detection.

I've played my hand in the paranoid parrot routine and have been banned in the past. I've going through VM(s), multiple machines, randomization, etc. In the end, I got a ban (and it wasn't a software detection either). It was probably bad timing. There are so many theories for detection methods. Hell, you could've been banned simply on the premise of holding onto that item worth 300 mil for 10 hours and then suddenly deciding to sell it and having a pattern of doing so. Just my guess, but a typical player wouldn't hold onto a highly valued item for hours (and days on end) if they had the intent to sell.

We could theorize all day, but I think it's Blizzard just catching up on their ban list. To bot 4+ months and not have been banned yet is a god send.