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New eula

hi1674 said:
the word you would want to use is "their"
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Did you just wrongly grammar police me? lol

No, I am correct with "there"

Their: a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun: their home; their rights as citizens; their departure for Rome.

There: used by way of calling attention to something or someone.

That something being the Blizzard End User Agreement.

Thank you for trying though, it was really cute. :)
 
f2u said:
so you're aware that "counter lawsuits," actually counter a previous lawsuit. you can't really counterclaim someone unless there was first a claim against you
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I have no clue what the classification of this Claim or lawsuit is, I just wanted to point out, that there was an additional lawsuit started by blizzard against their eula/tos.

But yeah this has nothing to do with the topic, there was/is a "lawsuit" against Blizz and thats it. :)
 
Just setting this straight once in for all! If BLIZZARD or anyone else (steam... etc.) is monitoring your pc, then they brake a very serious law (atleast in Denmark). This will, in any law, regardless of ToU acceptance or anything simular, be considered as a spyware. Lets take an example, shall we?
I got banned once. I called the phone-support and I got to speak with a guy after around 10 mins. He told me that they had found 3rd party software on my pc (and some other crap that he claimed they'd found). When I heard this I informed the guy that if that was the case. That they had been spying on my programs outside the world of warcraft. Then I'd like to inform him that it would be against the law in Denmark... When he heard this he said he would investigate this. Guess what, the crap he threw at me was well, CRAP. I got an unban + a message telling me that "they had investigate bla. bla. bla.". -> Conclusion: If BLIZZARD was able to see these programs they'd not have unbanned me. Instead they reworked their story from "we have found stuff on your pc" to "we have seen suspicious activity online the world of warcraft". The difference between these two is that one of them is illigal and the other is accepted within the law (grundloven). "Det st?r den mist?nkte frit for at n?gte adgang til sin personlige ejendom, ligesom der heller ikke skal gives nogen ?rsag hertil. Alene det, at der ikke ?nskes offentlige myndigheders gennemgang af personlige forhold er tilstr?kkeligt.
" -> basically means that if I don't want people to monitor my shit, then they can't (unless they brake the law).

Grundlovens ?72
 
For Germany:
1. SOLANGE SIE BEIM BATTLE.NET-SERVICE ANGEMELDET SIND, STIMMEN SIE FOLGENDEM ZU: W?HREND DER AUSF?HRUNG DES WORLD OF WARCRAFT-CLIENTS KANN DIESER DEN RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) UND/ODER CPU-PROZESSE AUF DIE BENUTZUNG VON UNAUTHORISIERTEN DRITTANBIETER-PROGRAMMEN ?BERWACHEN, DIE GLEICHZEITIG MIT WORLD OF WARCRAFT AUSGEF?HRT WERDEN. EIN „UNAUTHORISIERTES DRITTANBIETER-PROGRAMM“ IST IN DIESER VEREINBARUNG WIE FOLGT DEFINIERT:JEGLICHE SOFTWARE VON DRITTANBIETERN, EINSCHLIE?LICH UND AUSNAHMSLOS JEDES „ADDON“ ODER JEDES „MOD“, WELCHE NACH BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENTS EIGENEM ERMESSEN: (1) „CHEATEN“ IN JEGLICHER FORM ERM?GLICHEN ODER BEG?NSTIGEN; (2) DEN BENUTZERN ERM?GLICHEN, DAS WORLD OF WARCRAFT-INTERFACE, DIE SPIELUMGEBUNG UND/ODER ERFAHRUNGSPUNKTE IN JEGLICHER FORM ZU HACKEN ODER ZU VER?NDERN, OHNE DASS DIES AUSDR?CKLICH DURCH BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT GENEHMIGT WURDE; ODER (3) INFORMATIONEN VON ODER DURCH WOLRD OF WARCRAFT ABH?REN; ABFANGEN ODER AUF SONSTIGE WEISE SAMMELN. (4) F?R DEN FALL, DASS WORLD OF WARCRAFT EIN UNAUTHORISIERTES DRITTPROGRAMM ENTDECKT, KANN BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT (a) INFORMATIONEN AN BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT SENDEN, EINSCHLIESSLICH UND OHNE AUSNAHME DES ACCOUNTNAMENS, DETAILS ?BER DAS ENTDECKTE UNAUTORISIERTE DRITTANBIETER-PROGRAMM SOWIE DIE UHRZEIT UND DAS DATUM, ZU DENEN DAS UNAUTORISIERTE DRITTPROGRAMM ENTDECKT WURDE; UND/ODER (b) VON JEDEM ODER VON S?MTLICHEN IN EINER BLIZZARD-VEREINBARUNG ENTHALTENEN RECHTE GEBRAUCH MACHEN; UNGEACHTET DESSEN, OB DER BENUTZER DAVON VORHER IN KENNTNIS GESETZT WURDE ODER NICHT
 
Kittycat said:
For Germany:
1. SOLANGE SIE BEIM BATTLE.NET-SERVICE ANGEMELDET SIND, STIMMEN SIE FOLGENDEM ZU: W?HREND DER AUSF?HRUNG DES WORLD OF WARCRAFT-CLIENTS KANN DIESER DEN RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) UND/ODER CPU-PROZESSE AUF DIE BENUTZUNG VON UNAUTHORISIERTEN DRITTANBIETER-PROGRAMMEN ?BERWACHEN, DIE GLEICHZEITIG MIT WORLD OF WARCRAFT AUSGEF?HRT WERDEN. EIN „UNAUTHORISIERTES DRITTANBIETER-PROGRAMM“ IST IN DIESER VEREINBARUNG WIE FOLGT DEFINIERT:JEGLICHE SOFTWARE VON DRITTANBIETERN, EINSCHLIE?LICH UND AUSNAHMSLOS JEDES „ADDON“ ODER JEDES „MOD“, WELCHE NACH BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENTS EIGENEM ERMESSEN: (1) „CHEATEN“ IN JEGLICHER FORM ERM?GLICHEN ODER BEG?NSTIGEN; (2) DEN BENUTZERN ERM?GLICHEN, DAS WORLD OF WARCRAFT-INTERFACE, DIE SPIELUMGEBUNG UND/ODER ERFAHRUNGSPUNKTE IN JEGLICHER FORM ZU HACKEN ODER ZU VER?NDERN, OHNE DASS DIES AUSDR?CKLICH DURCH BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT GENEHMIGT WURDE; ODER (3) INFORMATIONEN VON ODER DURCH WOLRD OF WARCRAFT ABH?REN; ABFANGEN ODER AUF SONSTIGE WEISE SAMMELN. (4) F?R DEN FALL, DASS WORLD OF WARCRAFT EIN UNAUTHORISIERTES DRITTPROGRAMM ENTDECKT, KANN BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT (a) INFORMATIONEN AN BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT SENDEN, EINSCHLIESSLICH UND OHNE AUSNAHME DES ACCOUNTNAMENS, DETAILS ?BER DAS ENTDECKTE UNAUTORISIERTE DRITTANBIETER-PROGRAMM SOWIE DIE UHRZEIT UND DAS DATUM, ZU DENEN DAS UNAUTORISIERTE DRITTPROGRAMM ENTDECKT WURDE; UND/ODER (b) VON JEDEM ODER VON S?MTLICHEN IN EINER BLIZZARD-VEREINBARUNG ENTHALTENEN RECHTE GEBRAUCH MACHEN; UNGEACHTET DESSEN, OB DER BENUTZER DAVON VORHER IN KENNTNIS GESETZT WURDE ODER NICHT
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Take in mind that ToU is not a federal law = you can break it as much as you wish and you can't be prosecuted afterwards... This is the main difference between a law and a "game-agreement"
 
If blizzard can scan your pc, if you at ownedcore or thebuddyforum or even using 3rd party programs like my hack and hb bot then using the past 4 years and not been banned..Im sure they just miss looked at my pc processors running :) lol IF they could do it then HB would of been killed years ago, Every company is there to scare you so that you dont use bots or cheats in any game. glider got hit due to the fact it was messing with the internal memory INSIDE WOW....HERP A DERPA DOOPA Look FBI im on piratebay quick get my details and put me in jail!
 
PTankadin said:
"Consent to Monitor.

WHEN RUNNING, THE GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME.
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I think this is the part most people seem to be missing. When you press accept you accept their right to monitor your RAM. Used to be they could only access the memory that their game used.

Now does this mean they can cross check file sizes to say, a program DB and in that way determine what programs your running? I actually wouldn't mind a real answer to this if anyone knows.
 
All that Warden does is scan the WoW.exe and contents of It's containing folder....if a bot ATTACHES to WoW It Is now within the .exe as It's ATTACHED so Blizz can check and see if a bot is there....WITHIN the actual game (FML i lost the game ?.?) that is all.

As for the lawsuit, apparently someone sued Blizz for Warden scanning there PC...nothing more and whoever said "Because It's there in ToS means that they haven't been sued, They would remove it"....pshh all they'd have to do is alter It afterwards. Even just put it in the ToS (IF It wasn't there in the first place)
 
Hb attaches to wow, so hide yo kids, hide yo wife. cuz errrbody up in here aint safe
 
processguard used to stop warden from what ive read but that was a long time ago..not to sure what programs are around anymore
 
All I can say too the people who are saying bliztard can scan your whole pc or KNOW THAT HB is running is to go hide in the corner and believe that santa will rape you.. Stop using HB if you think they can see HB running.
 
and in reality all theyd need to do is change the EULA and then what. And saying they dont look means what? Not worried about getting caught botting just the fact that they can is enough. The patriot act will and does allow the FBI to look into your comp, cell phones and anything else they like cause of "terrorism" and that can be painted any way they need it to fit to get the access they need. Look on the net people are getting arrested left and right for sites like Piratebay all the time and no not just the mass distributors. Look at Steam..there EULA states that u cant take legal action against them but they can sue the user. So basically they can do what they want and u cant do a thing...Look at The Trans-Pacific Partnership thats toatal bs..simply states that your internet providers will have to reveal personal info without any real proof of any wrong doing. http://boingboing.net/2012/08/25/leaked-tpp-the-son-of-acta-w.html great country america is becoming...Freedom?
 
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