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Needing input on why i got banned, and how many of you stopped botting?

UnderratedPost said:
sound like you dont know the difference between detectable and detected...any bot is detectable in theory :D
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The first banwave they said they don't know how the bot was detected, when they released it back to the public they said they still didn't know how it was detected. Another banwave happened months later.

So, sure lets go with that. You're right, you should invest a couple hundred into new accounts and a couple thousand into HB keys cause you're right and I am just a troll who is wrong.
 
Turdmagnet said:
The first banwave they said they don't know how the bot was detected, when they released it back to the public they said they still didn't know how it was detected. Another banwave happened months later.
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And then they said they did know how it was detected, and they patched it :)
 
supasitario said:
yeah if you read like around january i lost my first account cause i didnt turn bot off and there you can read how i got that info.

so someone says : " this could be detected " or " its detected " and must be a troll? - believe me, i do not waste time on forums like you. plus i understand the risk of botting, i came to give info. this are facts so info goes to HB devs and players who i advice 0 usage of bot (for now). dont get me wrong, im a fan of HB and i find it awesome still. me getting banned dosent change it at all. and i believe there are few options of what might happend. one of those is that HB team its working on fixing it too.

the difference between you and me?, it dosent comes from me being veteran or not.
the difference is that while you brag about being awesome and not getting ban, i came here to be proactive and give FACTS so the ones that use brain can use what i learned with all lost accounts.

like i said, Im a big fan of HB. but that dosent move my feet from ground and reality.
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If your a fanboi of hb your spewing facts and theories that don't match up with everyone elses current botting experience and If I dare say trying to hurt HB really when you look at it which makes me wonder your a fanboy doing this?
And I will get banned one day, just YOU SAID HB WAS DETECTED CLEARLY yet if it was I'D BE BANNED ALONG WITH YOU period.
Trolls will defend themselves to the very end I made my points pretty damn clear.
As for trying to give or suggest proactive facts? please gimme a break your facts pointed to everything being at fault with the bot the saying this equal = HB DETECTED clearly what you wrote!

That ain't proactive facts that is you clearly saying HB is detected.

Now on the other hand, blizzard may have plans to detect hb again I ain't saying it won't happen or a new scan may occur soon who knows. I fully expect to get hit again, maybe one or two maybe the entire lot it's cool I accept it. But when I see people coming on spewing OMG I JUST USED ROTATIONS on enyo only AND ITS DETECTED omg omg HB DEVS your blah blah blah and you got people like me going like a mad hatter you cannot expect people to take you seriously.

You can continue this approach, cool most of us will keep happily botting without issues until the day we all launch threads at the same time when bliz lays another smackdown on all of us.
 
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supasitario said:
I never got ban before and I had 7 main botting accounts and mine.
I consider myself a veteran when botting.

And playing Low profile didnt work. In all my time as Botter I never got ban.
and now even my main account just got ban.

So I wonder "How?"

Im a fanboy of HB and I support developers by buying at HB store but this is too weird.
There are 3 possible things at my point of view.

1. HB is Detected (and i wrote it before, a GM said it while banning one account)

2. Developers Sold us with blizz and later they will improve or remake HB to resell


Its imposible that I get a ban in my Main account.
I only bot with enyo and use it really few times.
I didnt use anything else.
I CONFIRMED - bgbuddy -bgfarmer - dungeonbuddy -gather - quest. all of them and their activities were detected.
so enyo too.
means if all activities are detected means honorbuddy is detected.

my only suggestion, If you want to say its not good right now just say it.
or if HB dev team dont want to answer then at least they should work on solution.
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Hola supasitario!

I am sorry, but you missed the #3:

3. I had been targeted by Blizzard GM and need to vanish asap!

How I could be sure, and why?

Maybe because:

1. I was banned on non-botting/never-botted account.
2. My guild banks were disbanded or dummy $5 accounts, made as guild-masters got banned as well.
3. I was lucky enough to recently sell XXX amount of gold.
4. I had sold some gold out of my common gold-selling pattern.
5. I started to sell gold to new customer/dealer, I still dont have trust with.
6. I purchased new tunneling/masking/hiding service recently.
7. I finally made it to farm with 5, 7, 10 bots simultaneously on my machine.
8. Put *random* botting mistake there.
 
Aion said:
Hola supasitario!

I am sorry, but you missed the #3:

3. I had been targeted by Blizzard GM and need to vanish asap!

How I could be sure, and why?

Maybe because:

1. I was banned on non-botting/never-botted account.
2. My guild banks were disbanded or dummy $5 accounts, made as guild-masters got banned as well.
3. I was lucky enough to recently sell XXX amount of gold.
4. I had sold some gold out of my common gold-selling pattern.
5. I started to sell gold to new customer/dealer, I still dont have trust with.
6. I purchased new tunneling/masking/hiding service recently.
7. I finally made it to farm with 5, 7, 10 bots simultaneously on my machine.
8. Put *random* botting mistake there.
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I use 6 machines , 3 on 3 different prov. of net
still i use different Ip for each one.
i do not do any kind of direct gold farming deal.
you know i could answer all of them but come one!
not the new kid..

i said that cause thats how it is.
fun fact:

-Buying a new account (starter) (never linked to main accounts or main farm accounts)
-went to Cllge. Took the new laptop check security stuff and connected to this new account.
-class while checking hb like 95% of the time. Noone around -no whispers- no nothing just lvling.
-write something in cellphone and see how account gets DC.
-try to log in PERMA BAN . no instructions or reasons of ban to mail.

get a clue about that. honestly that is my main reason to believe (even what a gm couldnt say proper)
that HB is detected.

that was a fresh 0 account.
not stuck like retard running on a wall or anything
it was doing his JOB.. and i mean job with lving right?
so if a 0 account gets that ban insta well it means something is wrong.
 
I got now 2 Chars on 100 played from my new Bot called W.I.F.E the 3 i get with Legion
 
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supasitario please just stop posting lies, HB is now as safe as it always was, if you get banned its only your fault
 
*off topic*
So avast just popped up and prevented honorbuddy from opening due to virus in greymagic.dll, I do not know if this is false positive or not. Regardless i just wanted to inform you guys about my recent discovery. Not that i believe that the hb team put virus in their dlls or anything, i suspect a false positive, just like most *****s for games.
 
We should just sticky these posts explaining in detail about the bans and what they mean to the community.
 
supasitario said:
I use 6 machines , 3 on 3 different prov. of net
still i use different Ip for each one.
i do not do any kind of direct gold farming deal.
you know i could answer all of them but come one!
not the new kid..

i said that cause thats how it is.
fun fact:

-Buying a new account (starter) (never linked to main accounts or main farm accounts)
-went to Cllge. Took the new laptop check security stuff and connected to this new account.
-class while checking hb like 95% of the time. Noone around -no whispers- no nothing just lvling.
-write something in cellphone and see how account gets DC.
-try to log in PERMA BAN . no instructions or reasons of ban to mail.

get a clue about that. honestly that is my main reason to believe (even what a gm couldnt say proper)
that HB is detected.

that was a fresh 0 account.
not stuck like retard running on a wall or anything
it was doing his JOB.. and i mean job with lving right?
so if a 0 account gets that ban insta well it means something is wrong.
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You are clearly doing certain mistake and Blizz still recognize your botting characters among the cloud of new accounts on the servers.

But its up to you, to debug where the flow is, indeed.

Not completely cleared system or payment method. From my experience - the Ip address is not the way they link connected accounts, its more sophisticated than most people expect.
 
I wont say the bot is as safe as it use to be that's throwing a dart in the dark. We wont know how safe it really is till everyone gets hit again. Lets just hope some of those theories are not true. Myself still in the back of my mind still wants to think in some sort of aspect the idea of hb selling us out to save there own ass is not that far out. Think about it in your own terms. If you were running a company and it was being hit law suit after law suit which means court cost out the wazooo then wouldn't the idea of selling out and calling it good so you don't loose everything you worked for be a possible idea? still while trying to suck as much money out of everyone being that this is the only decent English working bot. on the market so controlling the botting world isn't hard. I'm just saying listen to everyones ideas about specific situations they might just possible be true.
 
Aion said:
You are clearly doing certain mistake and Blizz still recognize your botting characters among the cloud of new accounts on the servers.

But its up to you, to debug where the flow is, indeed.

Not completely cleared system or payment method. From my experience - the Ip address is not the way they link connected accounts, its more sophisticated than most people expect.
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Possible to find some software can be paid or non paid for people that seem to have these instant bans to try to mask hardware?

I personally have looked but seems most is for bf or something like that but then again I'm not as tech savy as yourself or some of the other users here. I know we cannot advertise but still maybe a suggestion to go research since even though I'm not having the ban issues some are having would be nice to know if there is something since if from what It sounds some people may be tagged somehow like I said I'm no expert maybe hwid or something along those lines.
 
Craptuna0813 said:
I wont say the bot is as safe as it use to be that's throwing a dart in the dark. We wont know how safe it really is till everyone gets hit again. Lets just hope some of those theories are not true. Myself still in the back of my mind still wants to think in some sort of aspect the idea of hb selling us out to save there own ass is not that far out. Think about it in your own terms. If you were running a company and it was being hit law suit after law suit which means court cost out the wazooo then wouldn't the idea of selling out and calling it good so you don't loose everything you worked for be a possible idea? still while trying to suck as much money out of everyone being that this is the only decent English working bot. on the market so controlling the botting world isn't hard. I'm just saying listen to everyones ideas about specific situations they might just possible be true.
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I think you need to replace your tin foil cap because its not working very well :D

HB team are good guys they really do care about our accounts and they must have spent hundreds of hours trying to find out how we got detected in those banwaves, instead of everyone showing gratitude all you have is silly people making conspiracy theories! i hope they know some of us are grateful!!
 
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chinajade said:
Okay Interim, enough.

We see you've had your morning dose of vinegar.

You've already admitted you do not use WoW or Honorbuddy any more. (Here and here, and a number of other places.) So, you're basically just trolling our forums, and needlessly grousing.

Just stop. The Buddy forums are not here to be trolled. Consider this your final warning.

Going forward, if your posts are not 100% constructive, we'll be issuing a mute... your caustic 'participation' is done here.

cheers,
chinajade
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He's right though. we need a x64 client no one plays wow in x32 anymore.
 
Craptuna0813 said:
I wont say the bot is as safe as it use to be that's throwing a dart in the dark. We wont know how safe it really is till everyone gets hit again. Lets just hope some of those theories are not true. Myself still in the back of my mind still wants to think in some sort of aspect the idea of hb selling us out to save there own ass is not that far out. Think about it in your own terms. If you were running a company and it was being hit law suit after law suit which means court cost out the wazooo then wouldn't the idea of selling out and calling it good so you don't loose everything you worked for be a possible idea? still while trying to suck as much money out of everyone being that this is the only decent English working bot. on the market so controlling the botting world isn't hard. I'm just saying listen to everyones ideas about specific situations they might just possible be true.
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If this was true, what would Blizzards goal be by offering to buy info from HB? What could they accomplish by purchasing information for everyone who bots? I honestly can't think of any reason Blizzard would offer money to HB for the people who use their bots, ultimately Blizz loses out x2 with that deal because not only are they losing customers by banning them they're also paying HB someone to acquire the information that would then cost them.

The most logical explanation is Blizz is pissed off HB is beating their butts in court so they're rolling out ban wave after ban wave to cause them over here at Bossland stress by having to moderate all the bitching about bans and the like.
 
I do because if I use the 64bit version I get a 132 Error!!
 
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