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Necrophilia PvP - a Deathknight BT CC by Weischbier

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skuld said:
Check out this thread
Frost PvP Guide (Updated 8.25.11) - Forums - World of Warcraft
for frost PVP.

Here's a recap:

With the new changes in the recent patches you will now be using a Necrotic Strike/Howling Blast rotation. You basically want to get as many Necrotic Strikes in as possible.

Your strongest opening usually goes something like this. Make sure you do not waste runic power meaning that you should use frost strike if you are getting close to 130 runic power.

Outbreak – Necrotic Strike - Necrotic Strike - Necrotic Strike - Necrotic Strike - Howling Blast - Howling Blast - Frost Strike Dump

This is the basic idea of what your rotation per say will be. You should really never have to worry about diseases since you will always be howling blast. Some people worry about getting plague strike up on the target. For me it is really dependant on the situation.

Your normal rotation will be pretty much your opener minus the outbreak unless it is up.

If the target gets out of range you want to be using howling blast as much as possible to keep up pressure. I will say though that sometimes it is just good to save your runes for burst when you get back up to them. As long as they still have a frost fever up on them. If you find you are getting kited way too much or he gets out of your range right before a kill use the rotation below.

Howling blast - Howling blast - Death Coil - Howling Blast - Howling Blast - Death Coil


Best Times to use Obliterate

1) On anything besides plate I will use obliterate on every Killing Machine proc.

2) Also if you have a opp low on health and he has a decent amount of necrotic strikes on him I will usually use obliterate to go for the kill.

3) When you are on a class that cannot self heal (like a mage) and that person does not have healer. Keep in mind you do want to still use necrotic strike to keep up the 30% casting debuff though.

So please realize when I said that the rotation is VERY situational....you do want to use obliterate from time to time.

Best Times to use Necrotic Strike

Since the changes Necrotic Strike has become more useful, but I think this part of the thread is still quite useful with regards to is information. It is good to know that the absorb is not effected by certain things.

1) To slow down incoming damage from a caster. Usually this is going to be in 2’s against a double dps team. Generally speaking if you are needing to go so defensive that you need to use necrotic strike you should be using death strike to keep yourself up, however it is good to throw out a necrotic strike just to slow the caster down a bit. It will greatly decrease there damage done.

2) When the person you are attacking pops a cooldown which will in turn make them take less damage. I just want you to know during these times that Necrotic Strike is EXTREMELY useful since you do not have to pull off the target if they pop a cooldown. In fact you can keep up a considerable amount of pressure going even with these cooldowns popped due to necrotic strikes absorb going right through.

Shadow Priest – Dispersion
Warrior – Shield Wall
Priest – Pain Suppression
Druid – Bear Form
Death Knight – Icebound Fortitude, AMS
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Thanks for hooking me up with that information!

Currentley I delayed it a little bit, because I'm playing around with Felmasters framework. And at this time I really really enyoing it!
And when i release my DK ones for Felmasters framework there will be PvP support too, so stay tuned.

greetz

Weischbier
 
May be a tarded question but where is the download/ svn link?
 
ikyprianou69 said:
May be a tarded question but where is the download/ svn link?
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Progress:

  • Framework: 55%
  • Damage rotation: 0%
  • Interrupt: 0%
  • Pull: 0%
  • Movement: 0%
I will start off with this today, i will give this no ETA because only doing the damage thing isn't my goal.
I won't recommend to use this in Arena but your free to use it whereever you want.
One thing is really important to me: Dark Simulacrum! Maybe i will implement this BUT it will be up to you using the mirrored spell. Since i cannot track every possibility without causing HB to slow down.
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Did you read this?
 
BIG change: I'll impement this into my regular Necrophilia CC but everything PvP related will be handled here; Don't post PvP related stuff in my other thread, it will be ignored unless you post it here!

Except the update in the next 24 hours.

greetz

Weischbier
 
Because as DW frost, you don't spec into imp oblit because you have to pick up other talents in the frost tree. Most of your damage comes from howling blast and then necrotic strike. Coming from a multi-glad DK.
 
yeah i programmed it this way.
ob on km when under 35%Hp for going to kill the opponent


greetz

Weischbier
 
Does anyone know a good spec that is suitable for this cc "frost dw"?

Ronkan
 
Ronkan said:
Does anyone know a good spec that is suitable for this cc "frost dw"?

Ronkan
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I missspelled it a bit its for frost pvp in generel!

Update!
PvP is now available! There are many things that can be improved, so report every suggestion or missbehaviour you notice!

greetz

Weischbier

Edit: before you ask, no there's no movement yet, but i'm working on it. I've been a bit busy the last days.
 
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I tryed frost pvp with a dps specc and works great! Heals nicely when needed but only problem i had is that it does not use Chains on runners:(
 
TiCt3 said:
I tryed frost pvp with a dps specc and works great! Heals nicely when needed but only problem i had is that it does not use Chains on runners:(
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Thanks for pointing me at that! +rep

greetz

Weischbier
 
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