My feedback - what is cool and what sucks a bit

[FluffyPulsar]

I tried DB + Trinity 1.7.2.13 + QuestTools, etc. I leveled a CM wizard using questing, which worked pretty well. He wasn't faster or slower than manual leveling (without hacks). I had to babysit the bot, and when he started dying, upgrade his gear. This worked pretty well for mobs and champions, but boss encounters are quite terrible (especially under level 60). The bot does some very stupid stuff when he has the dps to drop the boss within a minute. Yet, he dies every single time, and I have to kill the boss myself or upgrade his gear even when it's not necessary.

The Butcher - is ok
Belial - he can easily get past stage 2, but dies in stage 3 to the explosions, because he doesn't move or doesn't see them.. depending on skills has no clue how to do damage
Azmodan - kites a lot, does no damage, eventually dies to a fireball due to a pathing error
Diablo - can easily get to stage 3, then dies to Diablo's breath, because he just stands in the path, again too much kiting
... other bosses are rather easy.

The CM wizard in inferno works very well. The pathing could be improved, because he can get stuck in some areas, and it makes no sense. Even in open space, he just runs around trying to find a way out (obvious to a human). What does help in this situation is to reload the profile, and start the bot again (staying in the game). Then he has no problems finding a way. Seems like an obvious bug to me. I did use In a Rush profile, but he gets stuck there too much. Now I use BestRoute.

If I set Min. Trash Mob Pack Size to 2+, he sometimes doesn't finish the last champion, so he gets no loot. Pretty dumb.

Also would be nice if the bot didn't walk along the path of arcane beams (crossing is fine). But what would be the best: avoid bees (sometimes it seems he wants to catch them all).

Still, great job, guys, thanks!

 

[MaxxyDB]

Yes I have noticed this too.

When I get stuck or the bot just doesnt seem to know what to do, I hit Stop, then Start, and he continues on without a problem.
I wonder if the Developers could use this feedback to improve this little annoying bug.
You know the Trinity Unstucker option, maybe stopping and starting the bot could be incorporated into this?

Might be an easy way to fix it.

 

[FluffyPulsar]

I'm running a sprint barb now, and I can do a much higher MP than with a CM wizard (the gear cost about the same). I can't do MP10 since I'm not willing to invest so much gold into a char which could be banned any moment. Trinity 1.7.3.1 is out, but it has issues with barbs, so I'm running Trinity 1.7.2.13. I tried a rend build, but it's quite dangerous when he has no fury, and he casts it before every pack even if he has fury. I also tried a HOTA build to deal with some nasty elites who run away, but the bot doesn't know how to use it. Eventually, I ended up using the classic build with bash - seems to work best.

What would be great is if someone created a profile blacklisting elites with certain affixes and base class, since the bot is too dumb to do certain combinations (especially heavy AoE champs or reflect dmg), and almost always dies. Atm, I'm experimenting with ignoring elites. It sure is safer, but the chance to get nicer items is much lower. Another problem is that by ignoring elites, he seems to ignore the stuff on the ground, too, and often runs around the champs through 3 arcane beams, etc.

 

[FluffyPulsar]

So, after tweaking the settings and the build a bit, I can do MP10 with like 4 deaths per hour, but since my gear is relatively cheap, the killing speed is pretty slow (not ignoring elites), so I do MP8 with 0-2 deaths per hour. The major problem is that Trinity is optimized for some very specific builds, and if I change one thing, he starts dying. Glass cannon builds are out of question.

 

[MaxxyDB]

Hey there!

I use a Barb for farming also, WW spec. He has a lot of life steal and 600 life on hit, so he is really hard to kill. But, I don't do a lot of damage, about 175k or so without buffs. I tend to farm solo on mp4 for the best gold per hour, he is p100 so no XP per hour anymore. I do find a lot of legendaries, they are mostly total crap as usually, thanks Blizz for the awesome bullshit RNG crap. LOL.

What I wanted to ask you is this, why do you run on such high MP8?
I have tried this myself and get way less gold, less legendaries, and before I was p100 I got less XP at that high MP.

Is there a reason you like farming or whatever on a high MP?

Thanks!

p.s. Your new avatar rocks!

 

[FluffyPulsar]

Well, I just started botting, so I'm trying to figure out what the bot can handle. After 2 days, I'm already paragon 50 or so, just thanks to MP8. I didn't try to optimize other stats than deaths per hour yet, since I was constantly stopping it and changing settings. When he reaches p100, I will try to optimize IPH. Not sure if GPH is meaningful at all, since the gold value is so low.

p.s. Yes, I use like 3 cool avatars. I stole this one from some guy called BlackDeath many years ago playing Freelancer.

 

[FluffyPulsar]

Thanks for the tip, Maxxy. I now play on MP5, and it really is better. All stats are higher. Paragon 76. Only about 2 LPH though.

I was able to drop War Cry, and replace it by Overpower, so everything dies pretty quick. I do have problems maintaining WOTB, because every pack dies within 5 seconds, which is not enough time to reset WOTB timer on the buff. But it doesn't matter. He does well without it anyway.

The only time he dies is if he stands near ignored monsters, not attacking them, and not running away. Dumb bot.

 

[MaxxyDB]

Hey cool!

Maybe its just looking for that perfect build for each toon to play at a certain mp level or something.

Its like the combination of the gear, skills, and passives that is like a combination lock to the vault full of gold and riches!

Ha ha!

 

[FluffyPulsar]

Paragon 94 now, MP6. I modified the profile to kill all monsters, because that's what works best for me. If the bot died, it was almost always to an ignored mob. I do kill elites too, but on this MP, they die fast. I have like 1100 IPH (because I kill elites), but they are higher quality, so 3-4 LPH anyway. Demonic essences are useless to me (got loads of them). I might stop picking them up.

And the new Trinity which I modded a bit works very well.

Didn't get banned yet.