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Minimum requirements for 5 VMs

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joachimb

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Hello everyone,
After suffering ban after ban on my pc, I gave up on botting. I have spoofed the MAC address, installed VMs, changed IP when moving to new flat ... Anyway I always got ban after eight hours or so.

Today my 2000$ computer burnt (yup ...), I might try to get it repaired but I want to use the opportunity to buy myself a new cheaper and much smaller one.

I would like to build it the smallest as possible in terms of size of the case.

Before I can build myself some knowledge about components (I have noooo idea), I'd like to know what the minimum requirements are to :
- have 5 tiny7 VM's in VMware or Virtualbox
- run wow and the bot on them
- run maybe a few more automation 24/7 programs like mass planner, bot for clash of clans, etc.

Thank you very much for your help !
:)
 
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I forgot to say that this computer would be dedicated to botting, I am buying the new Razor blade in September for "personnal use"
 
Well.
A computer for botting only?
Isn't better to setup a server, or something like that?

Also, 5VM is not a big deal...
Kinda all computer can handle it easily.
 
Alfonse1er said:
Well.
A computer for botting only?
Isn't better to setup a server, or something like that?

Also, 5VM is not a big deal...
Kinda all computer can handle it easily.
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I think he means 5 VMs with WoW instances running inside of them.
 
Alfonse1er said:
Well.
A computer for botting only?
Isn't better to setup a server, or something like that?

Also, 5VM is not a big deal...
Kinda all computer can handle it easily.
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It's true that a VPS could be a viable option but on the long-term it's more expensive.

Furthermore, I have some DIY stuff I want to try to build.
The plan is to build the computer as small as possible, use my dremel to cut the case in order to integrate one or two touch-screens and a laser keyboard. It's just for fun because I like building stuff although for this particular project I have no knowledge of components. I want to make a cubic completely all-in-one PC as small as possible :)

If someone has a strong knowledge of what cases, graphic cards (or APU ? heard about that CPU + GPU ...), etc. You can add me on Skype (jbrindeau) I will gladly give you a few bucks to put together a list of the components I need.

But first of all, I'd like to know the ram I need, etc. just to have an idea of how much this (let's be honest not really necessary) project is gonna cost.

Thanks :)
 
My cheap solution for 10x draenor-client instances suicide run was that:
AMD FX8300, clocked to 4.8 GHz
On top of that i had nice cooler over CPU, forgot what exactly, but he was made by noctua.
64 GB SSD (i had smth like siliconpower, but you can use whatever u want) One problem - u have to clear HB logs every week, in case of little free space. Also i had to turn of hibernate, to remove hiberfil.sys, and lower size of pagefile.sys, and turn of updates for my win 8. You can buy 128G SSD, it will cost you ~30$ more, if you do not want to do that. But with that moves win8 + wow + hb + arelog were just fine.
Video Adapter: i used NVIDIA GTX 650, it was enough.
12G RAM, noname, but seems like now it will be good to have a bit more. There are some tools, which i can not advetirse here cause of forum rules, but the can reduce ram usage by 70-80% of each wow instance.
Power supply: some quiet corsair 550W.
Case: whatever you want.
Motherboard: i used AsRock 970 Pro 3, it was cheapest motherboard, which could handle heavy AM3 overclocking.
I should notice, that i didnt use VM, and my settings were low as possible, 18 fps lock, 640x480, and tons of tweaks, what i found here, on forums. Turned off shit like windefender, win serach cacher, whatever. All win shit was off, and CPU usage was constantly high, like 80-90%. Also, all kind of RDP (i think you will not use another monitopr to handle this rig, yeah?) used pretty much of CPU time when RDP session wa on, like 10-20%, so CPU was even throttling. Teamviever and default winrdp is fuckin mad, and use even more. So i recommend Tiny (or tight, i forgot) VNC. It uses much less resources.
So, this rig cost me 600$ from retail shop, and 3 hours to build, install OS, and setup bots, and interface.
 
1 VM to put multiple wow bots inside is easier, and makes you able to minimize and run other stuff as well, but 5 VM's is just extra ram needed, and multiple windows to manage.. and wont help your detection rate..
 
VMs are just a waste of resources and doesn't protect you at all.
 
qztr said:
VMs are just a waste of resources and doesn't protect you at all.
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The aim with VM's is not being protected from bans. It's delaying auto bans for using 3767314 clients on the same IP and MAC id. Sure it's waste of resource at some point, but still it earns you extra couple of botting days.
 
I run 4 Instances of wow with 4 instances of HB, without a lag on lowest Graphic settings and only a few addons.
I also run my main too on ultra, with addons and HB. A total of 5 instances, seamless.

Windows 10 Professional

AMD 6500 3.5Ghz
16GB RAM
GTX 650ti Graphics Card
1TB HDD
ASUS RE 2.0 Motherboard

I hope this helps!
 
Can u guys help me? I just tried to install this VM, and I have a question. Where the hell must be main wow client? I mena how can I connect VM with wow client which installed on my host. Or I've must install client on each VM which mean>60 gb free space on VM? Sry for my bad english
 
kimkostitsyn said:
Can u guys help me? I just tried to install this VM, and I have a question. Where the hell must be main wow client? I mena how can I connect VM with wow client which installed on my host. Or I've must install client on each VM which mean>60 gb free space on VM? Sry for my bad english
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You need wow client in each VM, which makes it even more impractical. Like others have said, don't bother with virtualization.
 
badc2 said:
You need wow client in each VM, which makes it even more impractical. Like others have said, don't bother with virtualization.
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But without virtualization you risk getting all your Wow accounts banned at the same time. I've experienced it myself after one banwave, then i switched to partial setup (2 clients on host, rest on VMs) and when another banwave hit i've lost only a couple of accs, unlike before. VMs are laggy, sure, and you have to install Wow client on every machine (because it won't allow sharing), but is i haven't been able to find any other alternative.
 
I don't believe that's quite correct, for establishing my credentials - I am systems engineer for a hospital. Using virtual machines does nothing that launching multiple sessions of WoW doesn’t establish, they have the same end goal except using a VM is not practical it’s not safer than using the 5 diff instances either. It's the exact same.
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Your ISP gives you an IP.
Your Multifunction Device (Router/Modem) then gives your House/Home an IP Address.
The router/modem establishes a subnet (Subnetwork to have multiple IP's under your home) for your network.
It creates your tunnel to that IP that your ISP gives you, and you ride that IP from your ISP to the server, routers across the country/globe.
When a ban wave happens, I believe Blizzard detects the writing to memory/injection method - which is the most efficient and safe method to bot from HB even though sometimes a blind squirrel (blizzard) finds a nut(HB) every once in a while. It has nothing to do with VM or IP’s.
HB Writes to memory and injection method that makes your instances of wow act, fly, and move at your command or profile/routine etc.
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To look at other bots not HB affiliated they don't have a dedicated developer community with the mass that HB has. I have stayed with this community because of the commitment, drive and it also helps that the developers are down to earth people who care about the community.
 
EyesFisher said:
I don't believe that's quite correct, for establishing my credentials - I am systems engineer for a hospital. Using virtual machines does nothing that launching multiple sessions of WoW doesn’t establish, they have the same end goal except using a VM is not practical it’s not safer than using the 5 diff instances either. It's the exact same.
--
Your ISP gives you an IP.
Your Multifunction Device (Router/Modem) then gives your House/Home an IP Address.
The router/modem establishes a subnet (Subnetwork to have multiple IP's under your home) for your network.
It creates your tunnel to that IP that your ISP gives you, and you ride that IP from your ISP to the server, routers across the country/globe.
When a ban wave happens, I believe Blizzard detects the writing to memory/injection method - which is the most efficient and safe method to bot from HB even though sometimes a blind squirrel (blizzard) finds a nut(HB) every once in a while. It has nothing to do with VM or IP’s.
HB Writes to memory and injection method that makes your instances of wow act, fly, and move at your command or profile/routine etc.
--
To look at other bots not HB affiliated they don't have a dedicated developer community with the mass that HB has. I have stayed with this community because of the commitment, drive and it also helps that the developers are down to earth people who care about the community.
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Against detection nothing would stop the bots of being flagged of course, unless they are run in offline mode :D

But for suicide farming, the virtualization helps, due to the methods of Blizzard, identifying mass & suicide botters and their "friends".

Of course, if this is done in correct way - Each VM plus the Host share no single personal details, connected in any way to Blizzard, including but not limited to:
- Using own dedicated game installation by them, including Launcher, etc (vs. saving lame 40GB HDD space or net bandwidth)
- Using different Win installs per VM, not image copying. If you are IT professional/hobbyist, of course you can script unattended installs or copy images and change SIDs with Sysprep.
- Logging certain game license/battle.net account only from one VM or Host.
- You can even setup different VPS per VM, if you like them with different IP Address (No VPN, since its the most lame way to get flagged nowadays)

That way, the different VMs would have no direct link between them, so Blizzard would have hard time to link them, and once they attempt to wipe certain accounts, to not affect them all.
 
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