Making gold? Where is the "hot" place to farm now?

[Dopa]

After a VERY long break I decided I wanted to start farming for gold / selling it eventually. But tings have changed.. big time it seems. I used to be running with azyul profiles which I modded myself. But now it seems these profiles are "dead" ? Whats the new hot spot these days? Is it still Gundrak and Drak'Tharon or what am I missing here? There are like no people in these dungeons on my server

Thanks in advance !

 

[EchoTiger]

What's dead about them?

Here's what my stats are showing since 11/28 to now.

<insert some random graphic showing stuff>

 

[Dopa]

As I said in my post, usually the place to be farming would be in those dungeons as I listed. But now, there are like no people in these dungeons. How come is that? Is it a ban spot right now ? Are Blizzard finally aware / got their eyes on that specific spot since there are like no people in these dungeons anymore - on my server at least. Reason I am asking is.. WHY ? What's changed? Going from +100 people in these dungeons to absolutely zero :O

 

[EchoTiger]

I couldn't tell you.
On my end the numbers haven't changed much - for the most part they're a bit higher than they were before the banwave.

<insert some cool graphic showing random lines>

The first initial huge drop was the banwave, then it stayed low for a bit.
All the other dips are patch days in which the bot had some downtime, which we had one 4 days ago, so that's what the big dip at the end is. xD


As far as actual ban rates, they were pretty bad for a while but people in the Azyul discussion group claim it's starting to ease out a bit.
I personally haven't botted any of the profiles in ages, so I couldn't tell you my experiences with the bans.

Some people say as long as you bot about 6 to 8 hours a day with a small group, they will last until the gametime runs out.

 

[gta809]

What's dead about them?

Here's what my stats are showing since 11/28 to now.

I don't understand this? Haha Could you provide some numerical data? Are these the quickest gold to time ratio dungeons that are repeatable?

 

[EchoTiger]

I don't understand this? Haha Could you provide some numerical data? Are these the quickest gold to time ratio dungeons that are repeatable?

I keep actual raw numbers private for security reasons.
1-4 is most ran to least ran since 11/28

For percantages of active botters between the four, it would be.

Gundrak: 32.58%
Botanica: 27.38%
Drak'Tharon: 22.47%
Halls of Lighting: 17.57%​

There's several variants of these profiles such as Medium Pulls, Lite Pulls, AM-Alpha version etc
So these percentages as a whole aren't entirely accurate to the grand scheme of things.

 

[gta809]

Aha! Thanks for the breakdown EchoTiger!

 

[ryftobuddy]

Although seeing your graphs and data is cool, Echo, I really don't think posting data like this is helpful at all to the botting community. If Blizz is really looking at these forums like a lot of people believe (myself included), all you're doing is telling blizz which dungeons to watch.

And why would anyone want to bot what everyone else is botting? Even if all your accounts are just throw-aways, you still want to keep them running as long as possible. Doing what everyone else is doing is a great way to lose your accounts as quickly as possible.

 

[Azhemoth]

Although seeing your graphs and data is cool, Echo, I really don't think posting data like this is helpful at all to the botting community. If Blizz is really looking at these forums like a lot of people believe (myself included), all you're doing is telling blizz which dungeons to watch.

I don't mean to sound rude, or disrespectful - but do you really think Blizzard would rely on random charts posted to an open community botting forum to direct their ban focus?
I don't believe that they're that ignorant.

If they wanted to know which dungeons or locations to pay attention to, they'd just rely on their own methods and software which they've no doubt invested millions of dollars into.
Just like the banwave we had, I'm sure they didn't scour the forums to find a way for that to happen. They used something a lot more elaborate to make that happen, and no doubt those same things are used for the common bans as well.
They have control of the games backend, they can see and do things that we couldn't even imagine. Browsing a botting forum for graphs would be completely counter intuitive.

Its known by every common Joe that Gundrak, Halls of Lighting, Botanica and Drak'tharon are heavily botted by not only Honorbuddy users, but nearly every other bot out there.
So the information Echo provided is nothing new to anyone, especially Blizzard.

That and nothing is numbered. For all Blizzard (or we) knows these numbers could be based off of 20 botters.
Hence why Echo didn't show the numbers to begin with.

And why would anyone want to bot what everyone else is botting? Even if all your accounts are just throw-aways, you still want to keep them running as long as possible. Doing what everyone else is doing is a great way to lose your accounts as quickly as possible.

It's good to know what everyone else is botting so that you can avoid it.
But that side, one of the most common questions on the forum is "what is everyone farming?" - so don't ask us that, instead ask the people asking it.
We're just answering the questions.

 

[ryftobuddy]

I don't mean to sound rude, or disrespectful - but do you really think Blizzard would rely on random charts posted to an open community botting forum to direct their ban focus?
I don't believe that they're that ignorant.

If they wanted to know which dungeons or locations to pay attention to, they'd just rely on their own methods and software which they've no doubt invested millions of dollars into.
Just like the banwave we had, I'm sure they didn't scour the forums to find a way for that to happen. They have methods and techniques, and they're no doubt wayyyy more elaborate than we could imagine.
They have control of the games backend, they can see and do things that we couldn't even imagine. Browsing a botting forum for graphs would be completely counter intuitive.

Its known by every common Joe that Gundrak, Halls of Lighting, Botanica and Drak'tharon are heavily botted by not only Honorbuddy users, but nearly every other bot out there.
So the information Echo provided is nothing new to anyone, especially Blizzard.

That and nothing is numbered. For all Blizzard (or we) knows these numbers could be based off of 20 botters.
Hence why Echo didn't show the numbers to begin with.


Well for one, it's good to know what everyone else is botting so that you can avoid it.
But that side, one of the most common questions on the forum is "what is everyone farming?" - so don't ask us that, instead ask the people asking it.
We're just answering the questions.

Yes, I do fully believe that Blizz would partially rely on some random charts posted on these forums for data on what is being botted, especially from the "Profiles Master of HB"....How could you NOT think they are doing that? These numbers aren't being posted by some random nobody here. They are being posted by someone that clearly knows and has data to back their statements up. Blizz won't be relying only on this data, they'll just use it to re-affirm and back up the data they already have.

It doesn't matter that the charts don't show numbers, Echo CLEARLY said this is what's being botted. whether its 10-20,000 people botting those dungeons, it CLEARLY shows those dungeons are being botted, and as Echo said, botted the most right now.

The question in this thread wasn't meant to ask what to avoid, it was CLEARLY asked so they know what they should be botting. Is it an over-asked question...Yes. Does it change the fact that they clearly asked the question...No.

 

[Azhemoth]

Yes, I do fully believe that Blizz would partially rely on some random charts posted on these forums for data on what is being botted, especially from the "Profiles Master of HB"....How could you NOT think they are doing that? These numbers aren't being posted by some random nobody here. They are being posted by someone that clearly knows and has data to back their statements up. Blizz won't be relying only on this data, they'll just use it to re-affirm and back up the data they already have.

It doesn't matter that the charts don't show numbers, Echo CLEARLY said this is what's being botted. whether its 10-20,000 people botting those dungeons, it CLEARLY shows those dungeons are being botted, and as Echo said, botted the most right now.

The question in this thread wasn't meant to ask what to avoid, it was CLEARLY asked so they know what they should be botting. Is it an over-asked question...Yes. Does it change the fact that they clearly asked the question...No.

Still completely irrelevent.
Echo posted nothing that would be potentially harmful.

Just like I said, every common Joe knows Gundrak,Drak'Tharon - etc is heavily botted.
Just to prove my point, look at what the OP said.

 

[EchoTiger]

For the sake of user paranoia, I've removed the images.
If it scared one user, it'll scare more.

Please reframe from starting an arguement.
That's the last thing we need is more negativity around here.

 

[ryftobuddy]

You really need some reading comprehension skills if you think that's what the OP said. I guess I need to quote it for you so you can easily read it again...

After a VERY long break I decided I wanted to start farming for gold / selling it eventually. But tings have changed.. big time it seems. I used to be running with azyul profiles which I modded myself. But now it seems these profiles are "dead" ? Whats the new hot spot these days? Is it still Gundrak and Drak'Tharon or what am I missing here? There are like no people in these dungeons on my server

Thanks in advance !

Can you show me in the above quote where the OP CLEARLY said that Gundrak and Drak are still the most botted dungeons? I thought when the OP said that those dungeons are "dead" that they clearly showed that those were not being botted heavily.

You can say that the data is completely irrelevant, but damn near everyone on these forums can see that Echo says that those are the most botted dungeons. Like I said, it doesn't matter if its 10 or 20,000 people botting them, Echo clearly said that that is what's being botted right now.

 

[ryftobuddy]

Thank you for removing them, Echo. As you stated, if one person can see how the data is bad for these forums, others will, too.

 

[Azhemoth]

You really need some reading comprehension skills if you think that's what the OP said. I guess I need to quote it for you so you can easily read it again...

The OP saying that they're "dead" is completely irrelevent. You think Blizzard is going to see him say that and think "Oh, misewell not bother with those dungeons then!"
That's like putting a "No Guns Allowed" sign on a store in hopes that a robber will see it and not rob you.

No. It's the pure fact that he specifically listed Gundrak and Drak'tharon by name and brought them up to begin with which further proves the fact that every botter out there knows these dungeons are heavily botted and it's fairly common knoweledge that they are.
It doesn't take a third-party confirmation such as Echo to officialize that.

These dungeons have been heavily botted since day 1 of them being soloable. And everybody knows that. Not only botters, but Blizzard themselves.
And they will remain heavily botted until WoW is not worth it anymore.


We're both just going to keep disagreeing and end up flooding this thread with useless non-constructive chunks of text which does nothing but shows how childish we are.
So let's take Echo's wise advise and not continue this.